I think there are some pretty noticeable differences that show they really didn't care about the polls.
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presidentjlh
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It would also be preferable if Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin win the rest of their games except those they play against each other (other than against us, of course). Victories over a 2 loss Minnesota team, 4 loss Wisconsin team, and 4 loss Iowa team (or whatever they're at now) would be good.
Mierin
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Marshall isn't a Boise State. IIRC, every year Boise State was in the discussion they actually beat a good team at the beginning of the season. Plus they did it enough times that they started to gain respect and get ranked in preseason polls and had a decent chance of going to the BCS championship game that year they lost to Nevada.
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ZRod
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Anyone else taking into account that of the four SEC teams in the top 6, each one still has to play 2 of the remaining 3? This first poll is so dagnabit irrelevant and is nothing but a damn joke waste of time.
husker ponsler
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Alot of people isn't going to like this but as of right now I think they got it right. ole miss lost to LSU but that is a very young team getting better each week and death valley at night is a tuff place to play. in the end only one SEC team will be in. they are going to beat up on themselves to the piont they will all ahve 2 losses. we win out and BIG RED in, its that simple
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presidentjlh
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My theory is as follows, if there are 4 undefeated and/or one-loss teams, and no more, they will be in the playoff:
Win out (of course)
Root for Mississippi St. to win out. We know one SEC team will be in the playoffs, so it gains nothing for them to lose. Let them win out, so that Bama gets another loss. We need all the other SEC teams to have two or more losses. That eliminates the rest of the SEC if there are 1 loss teams elsewhere. Mississippi State will be #1.
Root for Notre Dame to lose one more, or Florida State to lose two. Since Notre Dame losing one is more likely, root for that. So Florida State will be #2.
Now, there are two spots remaining, for the PAC-12, B1G, and Big 12. Here are the teams that have a chance from those places: Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona, Utah, Michigan State, Us, Ohio State, TCU, Kansas State, Baylor
Arizona, Utah, and Arizona State have all yet to play each other, so at best only one will emerge with one loss. Utah plays Oregon. We need to root for Utah against Oregon, then have Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah cannibalize each other, and if there is a one-loss team in the Pac-12 title game, we need to root for them to lose, so that there are no one loss teams out of that conference.
TCU and Kansas State, if not eliminated this week, will face each other next week. So one of them will be eliminated. Baylor and Kansas State must also face each other. There is a chance, then, that TCU and Baylor, having already met, would both have just 1 loss. However, since they have no conference championship game, only the conference title winner moves on, if at all, I think. Either way, we need a two-loss team to win that conference if the Pac-12 produces a one-loss winner. So, out of the odds, it'd be either Oregon/TCU as #3.
If there are no other one loss conference champs, and Nebraska wins out, we come in at #4.
Win out (of course)
Root for Mississippi St. to win out. We know one SEC team will be in the playoffs, so it gains nothing for them to lose. Let them win out, so that Bama gets another loss. We need all the other SEC teams to have two or more losses. That eliminates the rest of the SEC if there are 1 loss teams elsewhere. Mississippi State will be #1.
Root for Notre Dame to lose one more, or Florida State to lose two. Since Notre Dame losing one is more likely, root for that. So Florida State will be #2.
Now, there are two spots remaining, for the PAC-12, B1G, and Big 12. Here are the teams that have a chance from those places: Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona, Utah, Michigan State, Us, Ohio State, TCU, Kansas State, Baylor
Arizona, Utah, and Arizona State have all yet to play each other, so at best only one will emerge with one loss. Utah plays Oregon. We need to root for Utah against Oregon, then have Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah cannibalize each other, and if there is a one-loss team in the Pac-12 title game, we need to root for them to lose, so that there are no one loss teams out of that conference.
TCU and Kansas State, if not eliminated this week, will face each other next week. So one of them will be eliminated. Baylor and Kansas State must also face each other. There is a chance, then, that TCU and Baylor, having already met, would both have just 1 loss. However, since they have no conference championship game, only the conference title winner moves on, if at all, I think. Either way, we need a two-loss team to win that conference if the Pac-12 produces a one-loss winner. So, out of the odds, it'd be either Oregon/TCU as #3.
If there are no other one loss conference champs, and Nebraska wins out, we come in at #4.
presidentjlh
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My theory contains the idea that if there are 3 one-loss champs from the B1G, Pac-12, and Big 12, B1G loses.
i couldn't agree with you more!! wasn't there a time when it was better to lose early than later in the season.. It wasn't perfect but it made sense, when one team lost they would fall in behind the others with the same record.. they sure as hell wouldn't be rewarded for it three days later with a championship game.. ok, excluding the 2001 huskers
presidentjlh
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They or Auburn will be eliminated this weekend, and as other teams win big games, come conference title time, not going to a conference title could greatly harm their chances.i couldn't agree with you more!! wasn't there a time when it was better to lose early than later in the season.. It wasn't perfect but it made sense, when one team lost they would fall in behind the others with the same record.. they sure as hell wouldn't be rewarded for it three days later with a championship game.. ok, excluding the 2001 huskersbut really ole miss just lost, WTH!! back of the line!!!!!
Scratchtown
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If Oregon was healthy along the offensive line vs Arizona as they have been in the past 2 weeks. They would be sitting at #3
They aren't overrated. Anyone they play will have to outscore them, which isn't likely now that they are healthy. Their defense is bad but it's good enough to steal a couple possessions and get a COUPLE stops. Unless I'm wrong...
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Auburn and Ole Miss play this week. It will be interesting to see how far the loser drops.
Utah @ Arizona State in a matchup of one-loss teams.
TCU @ West Virginia and Arizona @ UCLA could shake things up with two one-loss teams on the road against two-loss teams.
Also, Florida State @ Louisville and Stanford @ Oregon are two games that it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Top 5 team falls. Florida State on the road in the middle of the week (never a good place to be) after a big win and an extended layoff with mounting off-the-field issues. FSU also hasn't looked great in several games. Stanford's offense is down this year but their defense still looks very good and they've usually slowed Oregon pretty well.
Fun fact: Oregon is #8/#10/#30/#20 in Scoring Offense/Total Offense/Rushing Offense/Passing Offense. Nebraska is #9/#8/#6/#80
Utah @ Arizona State in a matchup of one-loss teams.
TCU @ West Virginia and Arizona @ UCLA could shake things up with two one-loss teams on the road against two-loss teams.
Also, Florida State @ Louisville and Stanford @ Oregon are two games that it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Top 5 team falls. Florida State on the road in the middle of the week (never a good place to be) after a big win and an extended layoff with mounting off-the-field issues. FSU also hasn't looked great in several games. Stanford's offense is down this year but their defense still looks very good and they've usually slowed Oregon pretty well.
Fun fact: Oregon is #8/#10/#30/#20 in Scoring Offense/Total Offense/Rushing Offense/Passing Offense. Nebraska is #9/#8/#6/#80
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presidentjlh
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In my opinion, 2-loss team is auto-eliminated unless there aren't enough 1-loss or better power 5 teams to enter.
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