Let the Staff Fail You on the Field (or, Give the Guys a Chance)

[Glendower]

Cool, see ya next August!

I'm not a sociable type fan.

No!

 

[Kernal]

Cool, see ya next August!

..and where do you plan on doing that? Because I don't think we're going to be anywhere together next August...just so you aren't making plans, or get another offer, I mean. I'm not a sociable type fan.

I'm not commenting on Riley or Pelini or "coulda, woulda, shoulda" because the course is set. What I will comment on is that I find it odd (and a little puzzling) so many grown men are concerned that others might not agree with their opinion, or have different thoughts or takes. It's like a bunch of girls getting together trying on prom dresses, everybody everybody else to see if the other girls made a face or rolled their eyes, or didn't sound enthusiastic when someone came out of the dressing room...

...that, and that more people cannot master anything but the "MultiQuote" button.

In a dictionary under idiomatic expressions.

You're on your own with the rest... I don't know anything about picking out dresses.

 

[HuskerNation1]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

 

[HuskerNation1]

Bo got 7 years....i think the haters could at least give Riley a couple years.

I think almost all fans gave Bo 3 or 4 years to produce...as would any fan for a new coach. It will take a new coach time to get his types of players in the program, and his teachings instilled in the team. If there are some on here that expect a dramatic turnaround in the first 2 years, they are not being realistic.

 

[BigRedBuster]

I agree with the original post.

For no other reason, are you going to have fun being a Husker fan if you spend the next 6-12 months doing nothing but fretting and stewing about the hire before he even has a chance to show what he and his staff can do? If you don't find being pissed fun, then why choose to be that way?

 

[The Dude]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

Which is insane!
You can believe Bo got a raw deal and get behind the new guy. It's not like Mike is at fault for Bo being fired.

 

[IvabigN]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

Which is insane!
You can believe Bo got a raw deal and get behind the new guy. It's not like Mike is at fault for Bo being fired.

Mike is not at fault for Bo being fired, however I find it quixotic of the Bo hating fans and the Ginger saying, give him a chance, but who also said Bo should be fired based on his lack of wins in games of "substance" or that he wasn't moving the program forward.

I'm open minded enough to give Mike a chance right up to the point where one of two things happen.

1. He has a losing season

2. he loses two games of substance by more than 28 points and posts a record of less than 9 wins

Simple isn't it? emotions should play a part in this

 

[Undone]

It's like a bunch of girls getting together trying on prom dresses, everybody everybody else to see if the other girls made a face or rolled their eyes, or didn't sound enthusiastic when someone came out of the dressing room...

 

[clyde40]

I'm going to give Coach Riley a chance and as long he's head coach at Nebraska I will support him just I did with Bo. However, I'm not going to lie and say that I wasn't underwhelmed with his hire. That's mainly because there's been this mentality that we are Nebraska and we could open the checkbook and get anybody we wanted with top notch assistants and we hire Mike Riley. Claiming that the "Bo-lievers" are just mad about him getting fired is ridiculous as saying that the "Bo-leavers" are so happy that Bo is gone that they don't care who the new coach is. I think more people have a wait and see attitude that we think, just some of us are more skeptical of others. At least we'll have plenty to talk about during the off season.

 

[Enhance]

Well if media outlets would stop throwing out names like Tressel, Orgeron and Steele then fans wouldn't get there hopes up. This is what they want they're throwing out big names they know will never come here to get fans hopes up and then capitalizing of them flipping out over hires from OSU assistants so they can then write about that

The media is just an extension of the people they serve, especially when it comes to sports. I got on Huskerboard within minutes of Bo getting fired and saw people already talking about Tressel - I don't think the media had much to do with that. Talk radio also deals a lot in rumors because that's what they do - talk. If they only talked about facts their shows would be pretty short. You have to make your own opinions and the people that eat up what the media says need to as well.

The one thing people keep bringing up about Riley is he's a developer of talent. He hones it to the best of his abilities, and over the last several years, he's been doing it with mediocre talent and it's been producing. Could he have done better? Sure. But, even Boise State, a team with very mediocre talent that took the national stage by storm, has fallen off the national scope for the last couple seasons now. Put Riley in a place with significantly better resources and much better access to talent... really good things could happen.

Look at it this way, too. I don't think Meyer, Saban, Miles, Stoops, or any other 'elite' coach would win 10, 11 or 12 games at Oregon State every year.

 

[methodical]

Not everyone is upset or unhappy. I certainly don't think anyone's crucifying the guy.

I think some of us are a little miffed see the staff hires. It looks like we traded a mean guy that overly loyal to his friends for a really nice guy that's cheaper and overly loyal to his friends. Which is fine, but they aren't upgrades on paper and he definitely has the opportunity to upgrade his staff here. We see that he's great with quarterbacks, which is nice... and he knocks off a big team every year, great. We still live in Nebraska in October and November so the passing game isn't as important as strong ground game and one big win a year when you're so bad you catch some team napping because they decided to skip practice for a week won't keep you employed at Nebraska.

Basically it looks on paper like we just got rid of Pelini to become another Northwestern. Which does not build a consistent nationally relevant program. If he has a losing season here he's going to be feeling the fire... Along with some other people in the University. Pelini needed to go but did we upgrade the staff? that's a big question with a large bunch of data to cast doubts.

I'll be happy if he proves us doubters wrong and builds a dynasty, but until he does I will remain skeptical. He seems like a nice guy and I hope he's successful, but he's not an exciting hire nor does his staff so far make me feel like we've got no other direction to go but up.

 

[IvabigN]

Well if media outlets would stop throwing out names like Tressel, Orgeron and Steele then fans wouldn't get there hopes up. This is what they want they're throwing out big names they know will never come here to get fans hopes up and then capitalizing of them flipping out over hires from OSU assistants so they can then write about that

The media is just an extension of the people they serve, especially when it comes to sports. I got on Huskerboard within minutes of Bo getting fired and saw people already talking about Tressel - I don't think the media had much to do with that. Talk radio also deals a lot in rumors because that's what they do - talk. If they only talked about facts their shows would be pretty short. You have to make your own opinions and the people that eat up what the media says need to as well.

The one thing people keep bringing up about Riley is he's a developer of talent. He hones it to the best of his abilities, and over the last several years, he's been doing it with mediocre talent and it's been producing. Could he have done better? Sure. But, even Boise State, a team with very mediocre talent that took the national stage by storm, has fallen off the national scope for the last couple seasons now. Put Riley in a place with significantly better resources and much better access to talent... really good things could happen.

Look at it this way, too. I don't think Meyer, Saban, Miles, Stoops, or any other 'elite' coach would win 10, 11 or 12 games at Oregon State every year.

IMHO Grandpa Synder would

 

[HuskerNation1]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

Which is insane!
You can believe Bo got a raw deal and get behind the new guy. It's not like Mike is at fault for Bo being fired.

Mike is not at fault for Bo being fired, however I find it quixotic of the Bo hating fans and the Ginger saying, give him a chance, but who also said Bo should be fired based on his lack of wins in games of "substance" or that he wasn't moving the program forward.

I'm open minded enough to give Mike a chance right up to the point where one of two things happen.

1. He has a losing season

2. he loses two games of substance by more than 28 points and posts a record of less than 9 wins

Simple isn't it? emotions should play a part in this

I think for most Husker fans, the standards you are setting would start in year 3. Anytime there is a transition, it will take time for the new coach to raise the results from the prior coach. If Riley wins 7 or 8 games in his first or 2nd season, but wins a conference title in his 3rd, I'm ok with that. I would not be ok if he goes 7 years like Pelini and does not win a championship.

 

[IvabigN]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

Which is insane!
You can believe Bo got a raw deal and get behind the new guy. It's not like Mike is at fault for Bo being fired.

Mike is not at fault for Bo being fired, however I find it quixotic of the Bo hating fans and the Ginger saying, give him a chance, but who also said Bo should be fired based on his lack of wins in games of "substance" or that he wasn't moving the program forward.

I'm open minded enough to give Mike a chance right up to the point where one of two things happen.

1. He has a losing season

2. he loses two games of substance by more than 28 points and posts a record of less than 9 wins

Simple isn't it? emotions should play a part in this

I think for most Husker fans, the standards you are setting would start in year 3. Anytime there is a transition, it will take time for the new coach to raise the results from the prior coach. If Riley wins 7 or 8 games in his first or 2nd season, but wins a conference title in his 3rd, I'm ok with that. I would not be ok if he goes 7 years like Pelini and does not win a championship.

So you'd be ok with him if he had a losing season? you'd also be ok with him if he lost a few games the "mattered" by 28 points? the third year speculation wasn't part of my supposition so I'm not sure where to start- although anyone who remembers the big12 championship game with Texas knows that Bo basically won that game and title, but it is nice to forget that now I guess

 

[Redmusky]

Great op-ed from Corn Nation

http://www.cornnation.com/2014/12/9/7360351/nebraska-football-mike-riley-staff-napkins-are-for-doodling

Mike Riley is not Bo Pelini. Mike Riley has forty plus years of coaching experience, including almost two decades of head coaching experience. He has deep connections in college football and he knows more than just the twenty five guys that 247Sports rates as great recruiters (no indication on their coaching ability). He knows what to look for in a staff. At his press conference, he stressed that he would hire coaches who are experts at their position and capable of teaching that knowledge. Development will be the core of this program and a key to its success going forward.

Now, I liked Bo. I don't think there is any doubt about that. And I have made it pretty clear I'm skeptical about the hire, but let's not go crazy. If he's going to fail, let him do it on the field. But give the guy a god damned chance. We might not be super excited about the assistant hires, or his hire in general. But I have a feeling this guy knows what he can do with this staff. That should be worth something.

Good post. It seems there are many Husker fans ready to crucify Riley before he's even coached his first game as the NU head coach. I think there are a lot of Bo-lievers out there (not all) trying to get out their frustrations on Riley for Bo's termination.

Which is insane!
You can believe Bo got a raw deal and get behind the new guy. It's not like Mike is at fault for Bo being fired.

Mike is not at fault for Bo being fired, however I find it quixotic of the Bo hating fans and the Ginger saying, give him a chance, but who also said Bo should be fired based on his lack of wins in games of "substance" or that he wasn't moving the program forward.

I'm open minded enough to give Mike a chance right up to the point where one of two things happen.

1. He has a losing season

2. he loses two games of substance by more than 28 points and posts a record of less than 9 wins

Simple isn't it? emotions should play a part in this

I think for most Husker fans, the standards you are setting would start in year 3. Anytime there is a transition, it will take time for the new coach to raise the results from the prior coach. If Riley wins 7 or 8 games in his first or 2nd season, but wins a conference title in his 3rd, I'm ok with that. I would not be ok if he goes 7 years like Pelini and does not win a championship.

You fired BO with 7 9 win seasons why would you lower the bar for the next coach