Reported Sexual Assault at Armstrong's House Under Investigation

[Elf]

If you are too drunk to consent it is rape.

I'll bet this is an issue every weekend at every college in America. Drunk girl sleeps with drunk guy. Hung over girl regrets her decision in the morning. In 99.9% of the cases she simply makes the walk of shame back to her dorm room. But 0.1% of the time she blames the guy and accuses him of rape. Was it rape? I dunno. Maybe yes, maybe no. It would depend on the facts. It would be a tough call if she was drunk and seemingly gave consent, but then later it turned out she was too drunk to remember what happened. (Was she too drunk to give consent?)

I'm not saying this is what happened. But I suspect this scene plays out quite often on every college campus in the land.

It does.

The vast majority of them are never charged. It requires the guy to say something really stupid. Like I don't know what happened or I was black out myself or sleep walking. If the accuser then says she remembers refusing you are DOA.

Rape kits are always done. However those are very misleading, as normal intercourse always leads to some vaginal tearing according to the Scandinavian sexual research institute.

Rape kits are only really useful when the offender is unknown or a denial that the sex happened.

Usually most paper thin sexual assaults just lead to a good once over questioning of the alleged perp and filed under not enough to charge.

Absent bruising significant tearing etc.

However I have worked in Iowa City in this area and yes, this happens numerous times every weekend.

The vast majority like 99.9% are never reported and not an actual offense. Boyfriend girlfriend two people out on a date, usually never reported or charged.

Where you see this reported is some guy finding a woman passed out at a party usually a total stranger or someone who has tried to get with them prior that they have turned down.

Edit: Read some of Elfs comments <face-palm> liked Moirannes response and others. False rape allegations generally do not happen and if they do they usually dissolve quickly claiming rape is still taboo in our society and the victims are put through a lot of scrutiny and embarrassment.

They do seem to happen more frequently when a sports star is involved. Anyone remember the 03' season when KState was playing in a BCS Bowl? A woman claimed to be sexually assaulted by El Roberson only to get him suspended from half the game. Then, as soon as the game was over she dropped the charges. Or, how about the Eagle, CO deal involving Kobe Bryant where the one claiming rape had three different semen specimens found in her underwear.

We've got a pretty big game coming up. I'm not implying anything here, but high profile players do tend to make great targets.

Kinda sad that bolded part is needed. I figured that out all by my lonesome!

 

[Elf]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

I'm guessing that was just a shade, or sock...did you get his main account also?

 

[NUance]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

I'm guessing that was just a shade, or sock...did you get his main account also?

Oh yeah. He gone. Or she gone, if that's the case.

I didn't ban him. Another Mod beat me to it.

 

[Elf]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

I'm guessing that was just a shade, or sock...did you get his main account also?

Oh yeah. He gone. Or she gone, if that's the case.

I didn't ban him. Another Mod beat me to it.

Nice. I didn't take offense to his post. It actually got a pretty deep belly laugh out of me.

 

[cornographic]

Hello Husker Nacione, back again. So what's the latest on this allegation...anybody?

no one on here knows anything .the rest is all WAG.

A'ight. TA and Westy watching the last few games from jail would not be cool, suffice it to say.

 

[Elf]

Hello Husker Nacione, back again. So what's the latest on this allegation...anybody?

no one on here knows anything .the rest is all WAG.

A'ight. TA and Westy watching the last few games from jail would not be cool, suffice it to say.

Pretty sure that's not going to happen.

Well, at least not over this incident.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

You're the hero of Hyrule!

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

You're the hero of Hyrule!

 

[cornographic]

Hello Husker Nacione, back again. So what's the latest on this allegation...anybody?

no one on here knows anything .the rest is all WAG.

A'ight. TA and Westy watching the last few games from jail would not be cool, suffice it to say.

Pretty sure that's not going to happen.

Well, at least not over this incident.

Um, sooo, how long does it take them to say who-dun-it? I would think it'd be pretty straight forward, but then again...The System.

 

[Jason Sitoke]

If you are too drunk to consent it is rape.

I'll bet this is an issue every weekend at every college in America. Drunk girl sleeps with drunk guy. Hung over girl regrets her decision in the morning. In 99.9% of the cases she simply makes the walk of shame back to her dorm room. But 0.1% of the time she blames the guy and accuses him of rape. Was it rape? I dunno. Maybe yes, maybe no. It would depend on the facts. It would be a tough call if she was drunk and seemingly gave consent, but then later it turned out she was too drunk to remember what happened. (Was she too drunk to give consent?)

I'm not saying this is what happened. But I suspect this scene plays out quite often on every college campus in the land.

It does.

The vast majority of them are never charged. It requires the guy to say something really stupid. Like I don't know what happened or I was black out myself or sleep walking. If the accuser then says she remembers refusing you are DOA.

Rape kits are always done. However those are very misleading, as normal intercourse always leads to some vaginal tearing according to the Scandinavian sexual research institute.

Rape kits are only really useful when the offender is unknown or a denial that the sex happened.

Usually most paper thin sexual assaults just lead to a good once over questioning of the alleged perp and filed under not enough to charge.

Absent bruising significant tearing etc.

However I have worked in Iowa City in this area and yes, this happens numerous times every weekend.

The vast majority like 99.9% are never reported and not an actual offense. Boyfriend girlfriend two people out on a date, usually never reported or charged.

Where you see this reported is some guy finding a woman passed out at a party usually a total stranger or someone who has tried to get with them prior that they have turned down.

Edit: Read some of Elfs comments <face-palm> liked Moirannes response and others. False rape allegations generally do not happen and if they do they usually dissolve quickly claiming rape is still taboo in our society and the victims are put through a lot of scrutiny and embarrassment.

This is what is always fascinating to me. The idea that girls regularly regret hook-ups, so they claim rape. In my experience existing on Earth around females, I've heard an alarming number of rape stories....women drugged, assaulted while passed out, ex-boyfriends breaking into their homes and violating them, etc. Know how many of them reported these incidents? Zero. Why? Lots of reasons, but mostly because the situation was so awful they'd sooner forget it than have everyone in their life knowing they are a victim.

Are some people so screwed up in the head that they would rather move forward with a rape accusation than admit they made a poor, consensual choice? Yes..without a doubt. But I believe there are many, many more legit assaults that go unreported.

 

[Elf]

If you are too drunk to consent it is rape.

I'll bet this is an issue every weekend at every college in America. Drunk girl sleeps with drunk guy. Hung over girl regrets her decision in the morning. In 99.9% of the cases she simply makes the walk of shame back to her dorm room. But 0.1% of the time she blames the guy and accuses him of rape. Was it rape? I dunno. Maybe yes, maybe no. It would depend on the facts. It would be a tough call if she was drunk and seemingly gave consent, but then later it turned out she was too drunk to remember what happened. (Was she too drunk to give consent?)

I'm not saying this is what happened. But I suspect this scene plays out quite often on every college campus in the land.

It does.

The vast majority of them are never charged. It requires the guy to say something really stupid. Like I don't know what happened or I was black out myself or sleep walking. If the accuser then says she remembers refusing you are DOA.

Rape kits are always done. However those are very misleading, as normal intercourse always leads to some vaginal tearing according to the Scandinavian sexual research institute.

Rape kits are only really useful when the offender is unknown or a denial that the sex happened.

Usually most paper thin sexual assaults just lead to a good once over questioning of the alleged perp and filed under not enough to charge.

Absent bruising significant tearing etc.

However I have worked in Iowa City in this area and yes, this happens numerous times every weekend.

The vast majority like 99.9% are never reported and not an actual offense. Boyfriend girlfriend two people out on a date, usually never reported or charged.

Where you see this reported is some guy finding a woman passed out at a party usually a total stranger or someone who has tried to get with them prior that they have turned down.

Edit: Read some of Elfs comments <face-palm> liked Moirannes response and others. False rape allegations generally do not happen and if they do they usually dissolve quickly claiming rape is still taboo in our society and the victims are put through a lot of scrutiny and embarrassment.

This is what is always fascinating to me. The idea that girls regularly regret hook-ups, so they claim rape. In my experience existing on Earth around females, I've heard an alarming number of rape stories....women drugged, assaulted while passed out, ex-boyfriends breaking into their homes and violating them, etc. Know how many of them reported these incidents? Zero. Why? Lots of reasons, but mostly because the situation was so awful they'd sooner forget it than have everyone in their life knowing they are a victim.

Are some people so screwed up in the head that they would rather move forward with a rape accusation than admit they made a poor, consensual choice? Yes..without a doubt. But I believe there are many, many more legit assaults that go unreported.

Statistically most of them go unreported.

 

[darkhorse85]

After reading the last few pages of this thread, I'm starting to think elfkiller was on to something.

If "Elfkiller" wants to put his money where his mouth is, he can PM me for my address.

I'm afraid elfkiller is no longer with us. He was done in by the elfkiller killer. LINK

I'm guessing that was just a shade, or sock...did you get his main account also?

Oh yeah. He gone. Or she gone, if that's the case.

I didn't ban him. Another Mod beat me to it.

So elfkiller just shows up to make one post? Seems to me like someone made a fake account to avoid getting banned.

 

[commando]

Hello Husker Nacione, back again. So what's the latest on this allegation...anybody?

no one on here knows anything .the rest is all WAG.

A'ight. TA and Westy watching the last few games from jail would not be cool, suffice it to say.

Pretty sure that's not going to happen.

Well, at least not over this incident.

Um, sooo, how long does it take them to say who-dun-it? I would think it'd be pretty straight forward, but then again...The System.

why should they waste any time with an investigation? allegations are enough to prosecute and there is no need for any evidence? The system

 

[southernoregonhusker]

If you are too drunk to consent it is rape.

I'll bet this is an issue every weekend at every college in America. Drunk girl sleeps with drunk guy. Hung over girl regrets her decision in the morning. In 99.9% of the cases she simply makes the walk of shame back to her dorm room. But 0.1% of the time she blames the guy and accuses him of rape. Was it rape? I dunno. Maybe yes, maybe no. It would depend on the facts. It would be a tough call if she was drunk and seemingly gave consent, but then later it turned out she was too drunk to remember what happened. (Was she too drunk to give consent?)

I'm not saying this is what happened. But I suspect this scene plays out quite often on every college campus in the land.

It does.

The vast majority of them are never charged. It requires the guy to say something really stupid. Like I don't know what happened or I was black out myself or sleep walking. If the accuser then says she remembers refusing you are DOA.

Rape kits are always done. However those are very misleading, as normal intercourse always leads to some vaginal tearing according to the Scandinavian sexual research institute.

Rape kits are only really useful when the offender is unknown or a denial that the sex happened.

Usually most paper thin sexual assaults just lead to a good once over questioning of the alleged perp and filed under not enough to charge.

Absent bruising significant tearing etc.

However I have worked in Iowa City in this area and yes, this happens numerous times every weekend.

The vast majority like 99.9% are never reported and not an actual offense. Boyfriend girlfriend two people out on a date, usually never reported or charged.

Where you see this reported is some guy finding a woman passed out at a party usually a total stranger or someone who has tried to get with them prior that they have turned down.

Edit: Read some of Elfs comments <face-palm> liked Moirannes response and others. False rape allegations generally do not happen and if they do they usually dissolve quickly claiming rape is still taboo in our society and the victims are put through a lot of scrutiny and embarrassment.

They do seem to happen more frequently when a sports star is involved. Anyone remember the 03' season when KState was playing in a BCS Bowl? A woman claimed to be sexually assaulted by El Roberson only to get him suspended from half the game. Then, as soon as the game was over she dropped the charges. Or, how about the Eagle, CO deal involving Kobe Bryant where the one claiming rape had three different semen specimens found in her underwear.

We've got a pretty big game coming up. I'm not implying anything here, but high profile players do tend to make great targets.

We had an officer from Eagle, CO speak at my academy. Five women accused Kobe of sexual assault and only one pursued it after the media rush.

 

[cornographic]

Hello Husker Nacione, back again. So what's the latest on this allegation...anybody?

no one on here knows anything .the rest is all WAG.

A'ight. TA and Westy watching the last few games from jail would not be cool, suffice it to say.

Pretty sure that's not going to happen.

Well, at least not over this incident.

Um, sooo, how long does it take them to say who-dun-it? I would think it'd be pretty straight forward, but then again...The System.

why should they waste any time with an investigation? allegations are enough to prosecute and there is no need for any evidence? The system

Can be like that, yeah.