Let's wait on the facts in Mo's case

[Hawkeyehusker]

Said to be pretty intoxicated.

Who said he was pretty intoxicated? Link?

 

[Hunter94]

AR Husker Fan, we need your expertise here please, on how this all unfolds?

Technically, the first thing to occur will be a reading of the charges, at which time Mo can enter a plea, which will be Not Guilty. Then comes a preliminary (both the reading and the preliminary can be waived by the defense, or in some courts, the reading can be done with just defense counsel present, who may also be permitted to enter a plea on behalf of Mo; it is unlikely, though, that they will waive the preliminary), followed by a trial if there is no plea agreement (although most courts combine the reading and the preliminary as a means to save time). The preliminary will almost certainly take place before any plea agreement or serious negotiations - it's a freebie for the defense, since the prosecution has to present enough evidence (but not necessarily all of it) to bind the matter over for trial. That allows the defense to probe the strength of the case without having to reveal any details of the evidence the defense will present.

With that information, the defense can plot a reasonable settlement to pursue; they discover the major weak points, if any, and can use those to negotiate a favorable settlement.

Just don't expect anything very quickly unless witnesses start suffering from "memory loss" - if that occurs, the prosecution will press for some kind of plea rather than risking losing everything. If there's enough "memory loss" quickly enough, the prosecutor should move to dismiss outright (remember the Duke lacrosse fiasco)...

thanks AR, that helps.

 

[Sugalean]

Said to be pretty intoxicated.

Who said he was pretty intoxicated? Link?

The police did. They tested him and he blew a .126 at the station. Plus he had a chance to leave once they got him out of the bar but he repeatly tried to go back in and finish what he started. Its all in the police report with plenty of witnesses reporting the whole ordeal.

Look... there is no defending his actions. I can't find anthing that makes me go... oh poor Mo. He messed up and has to face the consequences just as it was me or you...

 

[Hawkeyehusker]

Said to be pretty intoxicated.

Who said he was pretty intoxicated? Link?

The police did. They tested him and he blew a .126 at the station. Plus he had a chance to leave once they got him out of the bar but he repeatly tried to go back in and finish what he started. Its all in the police report with plenty of witnesses reporting the whole ordeal.

Look... there is no defending his actions. I can't find anthing that makes me go... oh poor Mo. He messed up and has to face the consequences just as it was me or you...

He wasn't driving. So .1 really isn't off the scale. And it's clear to anyone reading your posts that you could care less that there are witnesses that dispute the affidavit filed today. You have an agenda, and you could clearly care less about waiting until all the facts are out.

 

[Sugalean]

Said to be pretty intoxicated.

Who said he was pretty intoxicated? Link?

The police did. They tested him and he blew a .126 at the station. Plus he had a chance to leave once they got him out of the bar but he repeatly tried to go back in and finish what he started. Its all in the police report with plenty of witnesses reporting the whole ordeal.

Look... there is no defending his actions. I can't find anthing that makes me go... oh poor Mo. He messed up and has to face the consequences just as it was me or you...

He wasn't driving. So .1 really isn't off the scale. And it's clear to anyone reading your posts that you could care less that there are witnesses that dispute the affidavit filed today. You have an agenda, and you could clearly care less about waiting until all the facts are out.

What facts are these? I haven't heard anything that said he wasn't drunk (Doesn't the team have a policy of this? Public drunkeness? I'm sure they do). Comeon you know .126 is pretty hammered rather you are driving or not. Haven't heard anyone say the other guy started this fight. Nor anyone say the guy even struck Mo. In fact the police reports witnesses say Mo walked up to the guy, started the confrontation and pretty much dominated him punching him to the ground where he then held a dominating position and proceded to choke him also puching his GF who tried to stop him. The guy never even got a punch in according to the report. PPl had to pull Mo off this guy. And Mo isn't some small dude either. Now you can say I have a agenda... okay... I'm on the WE DON'T NEED THIS KIND OF CRAP agenda.

Defend him all you want... Mo is totally in the wrong here. He could of left and probably none of this is even a topic had he done so. No stick around and keep causing trouble trying to get back in and fight more until they call the police and they arrive. Then lets resist arrest.

Sheesh... I can't see how I can defend any of his actions...

 

[Hawkeyehusker]

What facts are these? I haven't heard anything that said he wasn't drunk (Doesn't the team have a policy of this? Public drunkeness? I'm sure they do). Comeon you know .126 is pretty hammered rather you are driving or not. Haven't heard anyone say the other guy started this fight. Nor anyone say the guy even struck Mo. In fact the police reports witnesses say Mo walked up to the guy, started the confrontation and pretty much dominated him punching him to the ground where he then held a dominating position and proceded to choke him also puching his GF who tried to stop him. The guy never even got a punch in according to the report. PPl had to pull Mo off this guy. And Mo isn't some small dude either. Now you can say I have a agenda... okay... I'm on the WE DON'T NEED THIS KIND OF CRAP agenda.

Defend him all you want... Mo is totally in the wrong here. He could of left and probably none of this is even a topic had he done so. No stick around and keep causing trouble trying to get back in and fight more until the police arrive. Then lets resist arrest.

Sheesh... I can't see how I can defend any of his actions...

Whether you like it or not Purify will be given the opportunity to present his side of the case. And many witnesses that were there are saying something completely different than that what was put into the police report.

Don't worry though. Sooner or later another Nebraska athlete will get into trouble and you can eagerly jump on the bandwagon and call for his head as well. Too bad there are those pesky little things called rights or you could just skip the trial and send him straight to jail.

 

[Sugalean]

Oh yeah...

Where are you getting all these witnesses. From the internet? I haven't read anywhere yet that disputes what has been reported already outside of hearsay. Not a witness went up and gave a conflicting report to police either.

I do know should he get to court and they try his charges... they are going to walk in with at least 10 witnesses all saying Mo started the whole thing, wouldn't leave and then resisted arrest. They will no doubt have pics of the guys cut face... the bruise on his GF face. A toxicology report of his alcohol content, and the clincher... 4 policemen testifying that it took all four to get him under arrest. Now Mo is going to have who in his corner to testify?

Dudes ... this is the real world... wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[Hawkeyehusker]

Oh yeah...

Where are you getting all these witnesses. From the internet? I haven't read anywhere yet that disputes what has been reported already outside of hearsay. Not a witness went up and gave a conflicting report to police either.

I do know should he get to court and they try his charges... they are going to walk in with at least 10 witnesses all saying Mo started the whole thing, wouldn't leave and then resisted arrest. They will no doubt have pics of the guys cut face... the bruise on his GF face. A toxicology report of his alcohol content, and the clincher... 4 policemen testifying that it took all four to get him under arrest. Now Mo is going to have who in his corner to testify?

Dudes ... this is the real world... wake up and smell the coffee.

Good thing you don't live in Durham, North Carolina. You would have probably hung the three athletes there out to dry as well. Heck, even the radio station today had several witnesses on complaining the cops wouldn't even take their statements because it contradicted the bouncers statement.

Is it really too much to ask to allow MO a chance to tell his side?

 

[Sugalean]

Oh yeah...

Where are you getting all these witnesses. From the internet? I haven't read anywhere yet that disputes what has been reported already outside of hearsay. Not a witness went up and gave a conflicting report to police either.

I do know should he get to court and they try his charges... they are going to walk in with at least 10 witnesses all saying Mo started the whole thing, wouldn't leave and then resisted arrest. They will no doubt have pics of the guys cut face... the bruise on his GF face. A toxicology report of his alcohol content, and the clincher... 4 policemen testifying that it took all four to get him under arrest. Now Mo is going to have who in his corner to testify?

Dudes ... this is the real world... wake up and smell the coffee.

Good thing you don't live in Durham, North Carolina. You would have probably hung the three athletes there out to dry as well. Heck, even the radio station today had several witnesses on complaining the cops wouldn't even take their statements because it contradicted the bouncers statement.

Is it really too much to ask to allow MO a chance to tell his side?

Okay...

How is he going to explain not leaving. Being drunk. Fighting in the first place. Trying to climb back over the wall to fight more. Resisting arrest. Going to jail. He is going to have witnesses confirming none of this happened too?

He can tell his side all he wants. The simple matter of the fact is he BROKE TEAM RULES!!!!! Some sort of suspension is in order. Sheesh a guy on the baseball team got drunk and broke some property on a campus lot and was suspended from the team. He didn't go to jail. I see the same happening to Mo. Just no way around it.

 

[indianahusker]

We all needed something to talk about in the offseason, but this is ridiculous. I'd rather talk about Ganz vs. Keller.

Can I get an "Amen!" from the congregation??!!

 

[adc7236]

Oh yeah...

Where are you getting all these witnesses. From the internet? I haven't read anywhere yet that disputes what has been reported already outside of hearsay. Not a witness went up and gave a conflicting report to police either.

I do know should he get to court and they try his charges... they are going to walk in with at least 10 witnesses all saying Mo started the whole thing, wouldn't leave and then resisted arrest. They will no doubt have pics of the guys cut face... the bruise on his GF face. A toxicology report of his alcohol content, and the clincher... 4 policemen testifying that it took all four to get him under arrest. Now Mo is going to have who in his corner to testify?

Dudes ... this is the real world... wake up and smell the coffee.

Good thing you don't live in Durham, North Carolina. You would have probably hung the three athletes there out to dry as well. Heck, even the radio station today had several witnesses on complaining the cops wouldn't even take their statements because it contradicted the bouncers statement.

Is it really too much to ask to allow MO a chance to tell his side?

Okay...

How is he going to explain not leaving. Being drunk. Fighting in the first place. Trying to climb back over the wall to fight more. Resisting arrest. Going to jail. He is going to have witnesses confirming none of this happened too?

He can tell his side all he wants. The simple matter of the fact is he BROKE TEAM RULES!!!!! Some sort of suspension is in order. Sheesh a guy on the baseball team got drunk and broke some property on a campus lot and was suspended from the team. He didn't go to jail. I see the same happening to Mo. Just no way around it.

Yes, it APPEARS he broke team rules. Once this plays out, I am sure appropriate action will be taken if required, however.....stop convicting the man before this all plays out. If you were on a jury, you would want to take a vote before the case was presented in its entirety wouldn't you?

 

[FriscoTXHusker]

Oh yeah...

Where are you getting all these witnesses. From the internet? I haven't read anywhere yet that disputes what has been reported already outside of hearsay. Not a witness went up and gave a conflicting report to police either.

I do know should he get to court and they try his charges... they are going to walk in with at least 10 witnesses all saying Mo started the whole thing, wouldn't leave and then resisted arrest. They will no doubt have pics of the guys cut face... the bruise on his GF face. A toxicology report of his alcohol content, and the clincher... 4 policemen testifying that it took all four to get him under arrest. Now Mo is going to have who in his corner to testify?

Dudes ... this is the real world... wake up and smell the coffee.

Good thing you don't live in Durham, North Carolina. You would have probably hung the three athletes there out to dry as well. Heck, even the radio station today had several witnesses on complaining the cops wouldn't even take their statements because it contradicted the bouncers statement.

Is it really too much to ask to allow MO a chance to tell his side?

Okay...

How is he going to explain not leaving. Being drunk. Fighting in the first place. Trying to climb back over the wall to fight more. Resisting arrest. Going to jail. He is going to have witnesses confirming none of this happened too?

He can tell his side all he wants. The simple matter of the fact is he BROKE TEAM RULES!!!!! Some sort of suspension is in order. Sheesh a guy on the baseball team got drunk and broke some property on a campus lot and was suspended from the team. He didn't go to jail. I see the same happening to Mo. Just no way around it.

Yes, it APPEARS he broke team rules. Once this plays out, I am sure appropriate action will be taken if required, however.....stop convicting the man before this all plays out. If you were on a jury, you would want to take a vote before the case was presented in its entirety wouldn't you?

I was recently involved in jury selection for a criminal case. I hope I am NEVER tried by a jury of my peers because most of them have little or no capacity for abstract thought. I'm not dissing anyone here, only reacting to that last sentence, but a message board is the wrong place to expecting reason.

 

[Silent Commit]

This thread is like a Seinfeld episode.....it's about nothing...yet, surprisingly entertaining to read. :clap :clap

 

[UGAHusker]

I really wish that my school would take incidents like this more seriously. At the University of Georgia we have incidents like this seemingly on a monthly basis and within the week everyone has forgoten about it. Not enough discipline or respect for the program. This probably explains why we will never reach the conisistenly elite status of Nebraska.

Tom

 

[Bugeater]

Yes, it APPEARS he broke team rules. Once this plays out, I am sure appropriate action will be taken if required, however.....stop convicting the man before this all plays out. If you were on a jury, you would want to take a vote before the case was presented in its entirety wouldn't you?

I missed the part where someone said his a$$ should be locked up, could you please direct me to those posts?