BlitzFirst said:
BlitzFirst said:
BlitzFirst said:
BlitzFirst said:
No Mavric, they were missing RB wheel routes, TE skinny/flat routes and tight ends crossing their paths in the hook zone....and they were missing some tackles. It's not scheme. They've since improved..but that doesn't take away from the fact that they weren't doing well for quite a few games this year.
Considering we've mostly played zone simply saying they were "missing" these routes doesn't really say anything. If they were going out of their zone, they should be "missing" them.
It would be handy if you had some examples instead of just blanket statements.
For cover 2 zone you'd be correct; the CB would be responsible for flat and wheel routes. For our base defense, you'd be wrong.
LB's are responsible for the flat.
However, we run quarters coverage as well. That fits exactly what I've been talking about.
Not trying to be a smartass...I'm trying to tell you what I've seen and where I think we can improve. The backers have a lot of improvement they can make. Indiana was a GREAT start. If they keep getting better, we'll be pretty amazing on D.
Yes, and for about half the routes you mentioned the LB would not be coving them because they wouldn't be in the flat.
That's why you need to show some actual plays to demonstrate what you're talking about.
That's why I linked you to chalktalk...so you could go and see actual plays. Please do that.
There's only one play where they actually throw a pass in there and the LB didn't "miss" anything. As is explained in the article - and I've been claiming in this thread - his key is run first so he reacts to the run fake then tries to get back to the passing lane. So he's doing exactly what he was coached to do. Although that wasn't actually a LB, it was the Nickel back.
Article talks about our 'base package' and that's where the LB has that coverage responsibility.
We have plenty of zone plays and plenty of quarters and base package plays. I think we're both right.
The article says the LBs have the flat most of the time - except in blitzes. And considering we're saying the opposite, I don't think we can both be right. Did you actually have any examples that you'd like to explain what is happening on a particular play to illustrate your point?
So the article has 3 plays outlined. 2 of them are not blitzes. In both of them, LB has flat responsibility. My argument is that our LB's are
sometimes missing that responsibility when a TE drags or releases there or a RB drags or wheels there.
In 2 out of 3 plays outlined, the LB's have that responsibility. How is that not exactly what I've been saying again?
You claim we mostly run zone.
I claimed the contrary.
Burden of proof is not on me....that's a logical fallacy. You must prove your premise first and if you do, I will acknowledge it is true and will not be able to refute it. Happy hunting.