Broderick Thomas' comments

[np_husker]

His comments didn't bother me.

It is upsetting that Pederson made huge changes to the program, basically took it in a whole new direction, and now in the 4th year we're still waiting to see real progress. It upsets people and people have a right to voice their frustration.

I would love to have a conversation with Osborne & McBride and get their honest take on the events of the past week.

 

[junior4949]

Well I think we know TO's honest take. He was pissed when Solich was fired. If memory serves me correctly, he at one time didn't want his name on the field after Solich was fired. It's hard to say what their take would be on the last week as they never seemed to "lose" the team like Coz has. It's almost like his players won't play for him. Kind of like the players gave up on BC at Oakland. Trend?

 

[Husker_x]

If it is true that SP won't let certain players back than it is quite sad....unless something happened between the two. I just think SP made the promises that NU would be back on top so us fans are expecting to be there right now. If Coz is back next year, I think there is going to be more problems as far as the fans go and that is something that SP and BC are going to have to look at. Coz did nothing for Wisconsin and has done nothing here...especially as far as motivating his players.

Provided we don't see a cinderalla story turnaround in defense this season, Coz should be hurled off the train sometime between the minute we're finished with Colorado and whatever bowl game we wind up in. Coz has proven everything he needs to. He's proven he can't coach, he can't motivate, he can't teach technique, he can't scheme properly, his players don't trust him, and he can't adjust under fire. He has no single quality which qualifies him for his position, and he is single-handedly ruining the blackshirts.

That said, if he doesn't get axed after the season sometime, Pederson AND Callahan are going to be drug towards the furnace when our defensive plight continues next season. We might have already killed a good recruiting class with this sh#t the past few weeks, and God only knows what will happen if we lose the North––which it looks like we will.

Things are getting bad, I think. I don't know what's going to happen, so I won't speculate. But there needs to be a hell of a lot of fire in this team if they are going to make something out of this season.

X

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

Anyway, who was the one that said people were brought in to sabotage the program, or whatever? I was thinking it was Thomas, but can't remember. One of the stupidest things I've heard in a long while.

Broderick made that statement yesterday. It's on the podcast. I don't necessarily agree with Broderick's comment that Pederson is trying to sabotage the football program, but I do agree with him being as much the problem for the current state of affairs as Callahan, Cosgrove, et al. He was absolutely right IMO when he said to fix the problems the players are facing now (lack of motivation and desire) it needs to start from the very top. I have NEVER like Pederson since the day he was hired and I was really disappointed when he received his contract extension. I support Callahan and what he's done, doing and trying to do but I think some of the obstacles he faces are a direct result of Pedersons interference. I think it's classless for Pederson to shut the door on the former players being allowed to talk to current players and you could hear in Broderick's voice that he definitely did not agree with that policy either.

IMO, it won't be a day too soon when Pederson is let go or retires. :angry:

Are you serious? Steve Pederson wont allow former players to talk with our current players? Thats so stupid

In yesterday's interview with Broderick, the last question the DJ asked was "Do you still have keys to the house?" and Broderick's answer was "Yes...well...Pederson changed the locks". He also mentioned something earlier in the interview about former players not being given access to current players.

As for Will Shields, he could have gotten on the field simply because he was a former player. But that doesn't necessarily give him access to speak with the players though.

 

[FriscoTXHusker]

I'm not arguing for or against Pederson, however, is it really fair to say he divided the fans? Weren't the fans already divided on Solich? There was already frustration and rumbling in Husker land, so much so that Solich replaced a lot of staff before his final year. I hope I'm not reopening Pandora's box here and facilitating an unresolvable debate about Solich, but I think there was a lot more to Solich's problems than Pederson. You can bet your bottom dollar that the powers on high were disgruntled and P had their support in making a regime change. He was the face on it, but only the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, there were disgruntled fans after the 7-7 season. Solich replaced some of the older coaches with new ones like Pellini. Even the most disgruntled of fans after the 2002 season were shocked as hell when Solich was fired before season's end of the 2003 season.

Yeah, there's always been the rumor Solich was having an affair with a female employee of the University. My sources say this is correct. However if true, Pud could have handled things entirely different. I'm not saying he should have aired out "dirty" laundry in public, but he should have forced Solich into resigning/retiring early. Solich could have claimed personal reasons, and it could have been left at that. Instead, Pud decides to grab the torch in his hands and light the fire himself firing Solich.

Pud did have the support of the Board of Regents. However if you think we as fans are wishy washy with our expectations, you should see the Board of Regents. I'll bet money they're already applying the heat right now on what is happening. If anything with any coaches changes in the off season, it will be a direct result of the Board of Regents than Pud. Pud may give the command, but the orders will come from above him.

So back to the original question, "Did Pud divide the fans"? Yes! Even the fans that disliked Solich the most were shocked when he was fired after turning things around and ending ranked 17th in the country. The next division came when we got shelled by Texas Tech. The next division came when we lost to KU. The next division came when we made no bowl game. Pud set the entire thing in motion. Like I said above, if he had the dirt on Solich's personal life he should have forced him into early retirement stating personal reasons, health reasons, etc. Pud should have never made his dumbass statements he did either about not surrendering the Big 12 to OU and Texas, and we will not accept mediocrity. Well, OU and Texass do own the Big 12. We are mediocre. Hell, our D doesn't even make mediocre. Pud's mouth wrote some checks that he just can't cash. He needs to accept all this backlash because this is his dog and pony show. Pud alone put unreal expectations on this coaching staff and this group of players.

You're confusing me. Solich didn't get fired until after the 3 ugly losses did he? I personally have no desire to see anyone fired, but I recall feeling like Solich's last season seemed worse than the numbers (9 and 3) because those 3 were pretty ugly. I guess what I'm saying is that even though the record on paper was good that year I personally did not feel like the problems had been fixed. I did not "dislike" Solich but I was not surprised when he was let go. I was only surprised that he was fired before the bowl game.

 

[cmb23]

Considering that Pud pretty much divided the fans when he fired Solich and we're all living in his freak show now, yeah he is the problem. You can hate on BC, Cosgrove, etc. all you want but when the sh#t clears there really is just one problem: Pud. Pud got everyone's hopes up when he fired Solich. He took the bar and put it sky high. Yeah, he pretty much single handidly has put all the pressure on this coaching staff and group of players. Fans expect great things primarily because Pud promised it to them. He fired a winning coach and replaced him with what he promised was better. Pud is 95% to blame for everything happening right now. When you promise and build the kind of expectations he has built up for NU fans, he must be willing to accept the backlash when if occurs!

I never expected things to be great in 4 years. 6-7 is realistic to me, so I'm not as pissy as some.

Anyway, who was the one that said people were brought in to sabotage the program, or whatever? I was thinking it was Thomas, but can't remember. One of the stupidest things I've heard in a long while.

I'm glad to hear that what is going on upsets former Blackshirts. However not all of them should be 'mouthpieces' for the program...past or present. Keep in mind, these comments are coming from a guy who tried to board a commercial flight with a loaded gun.

 

[junior4949]

I'm not arguing for or against Pederson, however, is it really fair to say he divided the fans? Weren't the fans already divided on Solich? There was already frustration and rumbling in Husker land, so much so that Solich replaced a lot of staff before his final year. I hope I'm not reopening Pandora's box here and facilitating an unresolvable debate about Solich, but I think there was a lot more to Solich's problems than Pederson. You can bet your bottom dollar that the powers on high were disgruntled and P had their support in making a regime change. He was the face on it, but only the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, there were disgruntled fans after the 7-7 season. Solich replaced some of the older coaches with new ones like Pellini. Even the most disgruntled of fans after the 2002 season were shocked as hell when Solich was fired before season's end of the 2003 season.

Yeah, there's always been the rumor Solich was having an affair with a female employee of the University. My sources say this is correct. However if true, Pud could have handled things entirely different. I'm not saying he should have aired out "dirty" laundry in public, but he should have forced Solich into resigning/retiring early. Solich could have claimed personal reasons, and it could have been left at that. Instead, Pud decides to grab the torch in his hands and light the fire himself firing Solich.

Pud did have the support of the Board of Regents. However if you think we as fans are wishy washy with our expectations, you should see the Board of Regents. I'll bet money they're already applying the heat right now on what is happening. If anything with any coaches changes in the off season, it will be a direct result of the Board of Regents than Pud. Pud may give the command, but the orders will come from above him.

So back to the original question, "Did Pud divide the fans"? Yes! Even the fans that disliked Solich the most were shocked when he was fired after turning things around and ending ranked 17th in the country. The next division came when we got shelled by Texas Tech. The next division came when we lost to KU. The next division came when we made no bowl game. Pud set the entire thing in motion. Like I said above, if he had the dirt on Solich's personal life he should have forced him into early retirement stating personal reasons, health reasons, etc. Pud should have never made his dumbass statements he did either about not surrendering the Big 12 to OU and Texas, and we will not accept mediocrity. Well, OU and Texass do own the Big 12. We are mediocre. Hell, our D doesn't even make mediocre. Pud's mouth wrote some checks that he just can't cash. He needs to accept all this backlash because this is his dog and pony show. Pud alone put unreal expectations on this coaching staff and this group of players.

You're confusing me. Solich didn't get fired until after the 3 ugly losses did he? I personally have no desire to see anyone fired, but I recall feeling like Solich's last season seemed worse than the numbers (9 and 3) because those 3 were pretty ugly. I guess what I'm saying is that even though the record on paper was good that year I personally did not feel like the problems had been fixed. I did not "dislike" Solich but I was not surprised when he was let go. I was only surprised that he was fired before the bowl game.

Ugly losses? Would you be referring to the KState game where KState went on to win the Big 12 Championship knocking off all decade OU? Would that be the same KState that played in a BCS game? Or, would that be against Texas that nearly made a BCS bowl?

Ugly losses are 70+ to very little against a Texas Tech team that I believe finished unranked at season's end. An ugly loss is losing to an unranked sh**ty KU team that beat us like a drum running the same play over and over and over again. LOL, come to think about it Coz has let the same play molest him for several years here.

Solich lost the same kinds of games TO did. BC loses to those plus some that you would never think of losing. Who really thought Ball State would come in and nearly hand it to us last week? Who really thought KU would work us over like a fat kid on a rib a few years ago? Who really thought Okie State would put it to us a year ago?

Solich lost to CU and was beat like a drum in 01. However, everyone forgets that CU went on to win the Big 12 Championship that year. Some honestly felt like they should have been the ones playing Miami for the NC. He didn't lose to unranked lowly KU. Solich was losing the games that TO lost. Anyone know the last team to put over 600 yards on the Skers at home? It was Washington in 1991 when TO was coach. I guess everyone has forgotten the days of getting our pants yanked down and our bare bottoms paddled against Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, etc. in bowl games. There were some of those games that were downright embarrassing and awful!

 

[huskered17]

If it is true that SP won't let certain players back than it is quite sad....unless something happened between the two. I just think SP made the promises that NU would be back on top so us fans are expecting to be there right now. If Coz is back next year, I think there is going to be more problems as far as the fans go and that is something that SP and BC are going to have to look at. Coz did nothing for Wisconsin and has done nothing here...especially as far as motivating his players.

Provided we don't see a cinderalla story turnaround in defense this season, Coz should be hurled off the train sometime between the minute we're finished with Colorado and whatever bowl game we wind up in. Coz has proven everything he needs to. He's proven he can't coach, he can't motivate, he can't teach technique, he can't scheme properly, his players don't trust him, and he can't adjust under fire. He has no single quality which qualifies him for his position, and he is single-handedly ruining the blackshirts.

That said, if he doesn't get axed after the season sometime, Pederson AND Callahan are going to be drug towards the furnace when our defensive plight continues next season. We might have already killed a good recruiting class with this sh#t the past few weeks, and God only knows what will happen if we lose the North––which it looks like we will.

Things are getting bad, I think. I don't know what's going to happen, so I won't speculate. But there needs to be a hell of a lot of fire in this team if they are going to make something out of this season.

X

All I can say is I hope your wrong. Time will tell.

GBR!!!

 

[newenglandhusker]

In yesterday's interview with Broderick, the last question the DJ asked was "Do you still have keys to the house?" and Broderick's answer was "Yes...well...Pederson changed the locks". He also mentioned something earlier in the interview about former players not being given access to current players.
As for Will Shields, he could have gotten on the field simply because he was a former player. But that doesn't necessarily give him access to speak with the players though.

IIRC Callahan said of Shields' visit that he did not speak directly to the players. He was there the whole week and at the game but I'm pretty sure he did not have direct contact with any players. Callahan was asked what Shields had said to the O-Line and his reply was "he didn't speak directly to them." Callahan also said they got to hear him at one of his speeches.