Trump's Post Election Fallout: Legal & Obstruction actions

Honestly I haven't been following the NY fraud case against Trump very closely until the verdict was reached. Other real estate business leaders have expressed concern at the ruling and even threatened to no longer do business in NY because of it. Being a cynic, I figured maybe they were corrupt. :D I have also read that some have testified that the accounting and evaluations were sound. If NY seized property today i would have been concerned with those actions. Now the appeals courts moves the bond down to 175M (less than half) and leaves the appeal open for reversal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/appeals-court-slashes-bond-trump-civil-fraud-case-to-175-million/

Honestly, I do not have anymore trust in the judge and prosecutor than I do in Trump. Do they realize if they do not execute this justly it's going to strengthen Trump?

 
nic said:
Honestly I haven't been following the NY fraud case against Trump very closely until the verdict was reached. Other real estate business leaders have expressed concern at the ruling and even threatened to no longer do business in NY because of it. Being a cynic, I figured maybe they were corrupt. :D I have also read that some have testified that the accounting and evaluations were sound. If NY seized property today i would have been concerned with those actions. Now the appeals courts moves the bond down to 175M (less than half) and leaves the appeal open for reversal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/appeals-court-slashes-bond-trump-civil-fraud-case-to-175-million/

Honestly, I do not have anymore trust in the judge and prosecutor than I do in Trump. Do they realize if they do not execute this justly it's going to strengthen Trump?
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The bolded just demonstrates poor judgment.

For what it’s worth, the damages amount are literally just equal to what it was calculated that the Trump Org fraudulently benefitted from with their shady math.

So the court is asking them to give back what they shouldn’t have had in the first place. And people are suggesting that is unfair to Trump.
 

Americans have collectively lowered the bar so far for this moron. It’s absurd. 

 
Danny Bateman said:
The bolded just demonstrates poor judgment.

For what it’s worth, the damages amount are literally just equal to what it was calculated that the Trump Org fraudulently benefitted from with their shady math.

So the court is asking them to give back what they shouldn’t have had in the first place. And people are suggesting that is unfair to Trump.
 

Americans have collectively lowered the bar so far for this moron. It’s absurd. 
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Why did the appeals court disagree with the amount? I am not an accountant or an appraiser. If he loses the appeals, fine. Skewer him. Did this trial have a jury? He has so many trials going on, I do not remember. If it's just the judge making the decision and punishment...ya, I'll wait and see. I don't mind Trump , or anyone in power, getting justice when they deserve it, but the court better be objective. It's funny how the media makes it a point to say whether a judge hearing a trail was appointed by a Republican or Democrat. No one trusts anybody anymore. It's all political. Maybe I needed to pay more attention to the trail so I can be as sure as you are that they got it right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/nyregion/trump-bond-reduced.html

  David B. Saxe, a former judge on the appeals court that ruled on Monday, said that the court’s decision to short-circuit Ms. James’s collection efforts suggests that some of the judges were uncomfortable with Justice Engoron’s ruling.

“My view is that the court indicates it has difficulty with the breadth of the lower court’s decision,” said Mr. Saxe, who retired in 2017 after 36 years on the bench, 19 of them on the appeals court.

“They had other options available to them, and they issued a broad-based stay,” he continued, which he said suggests “that there is a view that they’re going to need to take a hard look at the lower court’s decision.”

 
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What country are we living in?  North Korea, China, Russia -  if Trump and his ilk had their way, he'd replicate their systems and set himself up as dictator.   Yes, Russia has elections too.  Funny how Putin always wins.  

 
For all you Trump supporters, I hate to do this, but I told so!


What is on my mind, today?
FOR AMERICAN JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!



Trump found guilty on all counts. Here's the verdict on each of the 34 counts
The verdict in Donald Trump’s hush money trial is now being read in the courtroom.



The 34 counts stemmed from 11 invoices, 12 vouchers and 11 checks that make up Trump’s monthly reimbursement payments to Michael Cohen who fronted the $130,000 payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels.



Follow the latest on the verdict for each of the counts below:



Count 1: GUILTY
Count 2: GUILTY
Count 3: GUILTY
Count 4: GUILTY
Count 5: GUILTY
Count 6: GUILTY
Count 7: GUILTY
Count 8: GUILTY
Count 9: GUILTY
Count 10: GUILTY
Count 11: GUILTY
Count 12: GUILTY
Count 13: GUILTY
Count 14: GUILTY
Count 15: GUILTY
Count 16: GUILTY
Count 17: GUILTY
Count 18: GUILTY
Count 19: GUILTY
Count 20: GUILTY
Count 21: GUILTY
Count 22: GUILTY
Count 23: GUILTY
Count 24: GUILTY
Count 25: GUILTY
Count 26: GUILTY
Count 27: GUILTY
Count 28: GUILTY
Count 29: GUILTY
Count 30: GUILTY
Count 31: GUILTY
Count 32: GUILTY
Count 33: GUILTY
Count 34: GUILTY

 
Bannon to jail 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/court-hears-arguments-whether-steve-bannon-begin-prison-sentence-rcna155209

WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Thursday ordered former Trump adviser Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence for defying subpoenas from the Jan. 6 Committee after a higher court rejected his appeal.

Bannon was found guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress in July 2022 for defying the committee’s subpoenas, but his sentence had been put on hold while he appealed the case. U.S. District Judge Carl said Thursday he did not believe that the “original basis” for his stay of the imposition of Bannon's sentence existed any longer after an appeals court upheld Bannon's conviction. Bannon could still appeal Nichol’s ruling that he must report to prison.

 
Bannon was sentenced more than a year and a half ago, in October 2022, to four months behind bars, the same sentence currently being served by former Trump adviser Peter Navarro, who also refused to comply with a Jan. 6 Committee subpoena.

“The defendant chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law," Assistant U.S. Attorney Molly Gaston, who now serves on special counsel Jack Smith's team, told jurors during closing arguments in 2022.
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Noted CNN media personality Chris Wallace thought her opinion mattered enough to ask :dunno      Don’t know anyone who would say he qualifies as right winger.  
 

Also telling that the attack ^^ was on the person giving the opinion and not the substance :thumbs

 
No one needs to do anything because it’s good for Trump.  Or bad for that matter.   Just acknowledging how many anti-trump legal minds are talking about the lawfare in NY is a good thing for someone to come to grips with

 
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