Random Thought

[PhillyHusker]

While we are all bored and anxiuos for the new coach at NE, ponder this:

Callahan and Nebraska never meshed that well but...

Callahan never cheated and Nebraska football failings were just that, football failings.

Yes,his personality sucks, but so does Bill Bellichick. I could deal with Bellichick as my football teams coach.

We never had any major scandal and while there was damage to Nebraska's football reputation, there were no longstanding damages to the program.

Remember, we also had to modernize our offense, which was going to happen anyway if we had a new coach. That cost him some losses and maybe his job, but the hard part is over.

There is more talent at Nebraska then there was when he arrived. We just need to find a coach who can maximize the talent and development.

Thanks Bill for 4 years, but it's time for both of us to go in a different direction.

 

[junior4949]

You're right, but we've never had a history of cheating here. We've never been on NCAA probation. We've never had any sanctions against us. It's like congratulating your son or daughter for getting an F in math just because they didn't cheat. A lot of programs win without cheating. Btw, Behlicheck did cheat and it cost him several thousand.

 

[knapplc]

There are a lot of things to like about the Bill Callahan Era at Nebraska. He maintained graduation rates. He bonded well with his players, and they all like him very much. He ran a clean program. He instituted a new offensive scheme and he did upgrade the overall player talent.

I don't think his personality "sucks" at all - it's just his. There's aspects of it I like and dislike, but I could say the same (and did say the same) about TO when he was our coach.

Callahan did a lot of positive things here. When you look past his win/loss record there are a lot of things to appreciate about the BCE, and I think we are right now in a better place than we were four years ago.

 

[PhillyHusker]

You're right, but we've never had a history of cheating here. We've never been on NCAA probation. We've never had any sanctions against us. It's like congratulating your son or daughter for getting an F in math just because they didn't cheat. A lot of programs win without cheating. Btw, Behlicheck did cheat and it cost him several thousand.

Callahan had a harder job than most of us think. Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

Well, we have had issues with our players and discipline. I hate to break it to you but some people outside of nebraska have questioned our ethics (steroids and lawerence phillips).

 

[cmb23]

Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

I'll venture the guess that the Nebraska job is not one of the most coveted positions right now....

 

[knapplc]

You're right, but we've never had a history of cheating here. We've never been on NCAA probation. We've never had any sanctions against us. It's like congratulating your son or daughter for getting an F in math just because they didn't cheat. A lot of programs win without cheating. Btw, Behlicheck did cheat and it cost him several thousand.

Callahan had a harder job than most of us think. Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

Well, we have had issues with our players and discipline. I hate to break it to you but some people outside of nebraska have questioned our ethics (steroids and lawerence phillips).

Who took the steroids?

There's a Lawrence Phillips in every school in the nation. Nebraska is not unique in that regard.

I completely agree that Nebraska was not a desirable job in the least in 2003. That was a disaster.

 

[knapplc]

Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

I'll venture the guess that the Nebraska job is not one of the most coveted positions right now....

Why not? We have tons of talent, we have one of the most - if not the most - dedicated and knowledgable fanbases in America, we have donors willing to fund huge projects, and we have the name recognition to recruit in any place, any time.

What we don't have is an AD who just fired a 9-3 coach. That was our biggest problem in 2003.

 

[clone]

Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

I'll venture the guess that the Nebraska job is not one of the most coveted positions right now....

Why not? We have tons of talent, we have one of the most - if not the most - dedicated and knowledgable fanbases in America, we have donors willing to fund huge projects, and we have the name recognition to recruit in any place, any time.

What we don't have is an AD who just fired a 9-3 coach. That was our biggest problem in 2003.

True.

If cally gets a bowl and NU wins it, you'd have fired a bowl winning coach that has 3 out of four winning seasons a B12 north title and went to a bowl every year but his first.

Just the fact he only got four years may turn off a candidate. The fans wanted him gone mid-season of his fourth year.

If I was a candidate, that doesn't sound like a desirable fanbase to me.

but opinions vary

BEAT CU!!

 

[junior4949]

You're right, but we've never had a history of cheating here. We've never been on NCAA probation. We've never had any sanctions against us. It's like congratulating your son or daughter for getting an F in math just because they didn't cheat. A lot of programs win without cheating. Btw, Behlicheck did cheat and it cost him several thousand.

Callahan had a harder job than most of us think. Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

Well, we have had issues with our players and discipline. I hate to break it to you but some people outside of nebraska have questioned our ethics (steroids and lawerence phillips).

The reason the job wasn't desirable in 2003 stems from the fact that we fired the coach of a 9-3 or 10-3 however you want to look at team that finished in the top 20. Who else has done that? No coach would want to come in with the expectation that he had to finish in the top 10 each and every year. This was the statement we made when we fired Solich. We fired a coach who played in the NC game 2 season prior to his removal. Who would want to hop into that frying pan?

I believe the steroid discussion took place nearly 2 decades ago. I have no doubt there were players on NU's team that took steroids, but a lot of teams had the same problem. I mean it wasn't that long ago steroids were legal. I remember watching some female Olympic swimmers from other countries that could have almost past for men. I believe it was North Korea that was pushing for topless female swimmers because the tops were slowing them down.

I'll give you the discipline and ethics argument. I mean there was a push at one time for zero tolerance because of some of the players that played during the NC runs. My biggest beef is that you want to give accolades to BC, but in reality he hasn't done anything more than what Solich did in terms of graduating players, running a clean program, for the most part keeping players out of trouble.

 

[junior4949]

Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

I'll venture the guess that the Nebraska job is not one of the most coveted positions right now....

Why not? We have tons of talent, we have one of the most - if not the most - dedicated and knowledgable fanbases in America, we have donors willing to fund huge projects, and we have the name recognition to recruit in any place, any time.

What we don't have is an AD who just fired a 9-3 coach. That was our biggest problem in 2003.

True.

If cally gets a bowl and NU wins it, you'd have fired a bowl winning coach that has 3 out of four winning seasons a B12 north title and went to a bowl every year but his first.

Just the fact he only got four years may turn off a candidate. The fans wanted him gone mid-season of his fourth year.

If I was a candidate, that doesn't sound like a desirable fanbase to me.

but opinions vary

BEAT CU!!

What exactly was the bowl streak that BC ended? When was the last time our defensive rank was this poor? How many poor records have been broken under his tenure?

No, I don't think this time around is anything remotely close to the last time.

 

[knapplc]

True.

If cally gets a bowl and NU wins it, you'd have fired a bowl winning coach that has 3 out of four winning seasons a B12 north title and went to a bowl every year but his first.

Just the fact he only got four years may turn off a candidate. The fans wanted him gone mid-season of his fourth year.

If I was a candidate, that doesn't sound like a desirable fanbase to me.

but opinions vary

In coaching circles the season Solich had in 2003 is light-years ahead of Callahan's 2007 season. The tenor amongst the football people "in the know" around the country is that Callahan's impending termination is wholly justified, while Solich's was absolutely not.

 

[REDSTEEL]

You're right, but we've never had a history of cheating here. We've never been on NCAA probation. We've never had any sanctions against us. It's like congratulating your son or daughter for getting an F in math just because they didn't cheat. A lot of programs win without cheating. Btw, Behlicheck did cheat and it cost him several thousand.

Callahan had a harder job than most of us think. Nebraska was not a desirable job in 2003.

Well, we have had issues with our players and discipline. I hate to break it to you but some people outside of nebraska have questioned our ethics (steroids and lawerence phillips).

Who took the steroids?

There's a Lawrence Phillips in every school in the nation. Nebraska is not unique in that regard.

I completely agree that Nebraska was not a desirable job in the least in 2003. That was a disaster.

It was more of how Pederson handled it then Nebraska not being a desirable job. If Solich for some reason decided to retire that year like Lloyd Carr has this year, I would hazard a guess that a lot of coaches would have trying to get interviewed to take the job.

 

[knapplc]

It was more of how Pederson handled it then Nebraska not being a desirable job. If Solich for some reason decided to retire that year like Lloyd Carr has this year, I would hazard a guess that a lot of coaches would have trying to get interviewed to take the job.

Yes. Completely agree. Pederson submarined himself in that situation. :madash

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

There was plenty of talk about steroids in the 80’s. Wasn’t there a book put out about the crap that went down during those days? Also wasn’t there a steroid bust in Lincoln where 2-3 players had their names dropped during it?

For the record maybe every school has a Lawrence Phillips however we also had Riley Washington, Abdul “Bullet-Butt” Christian Peter, Shevin Wiggins, Reggie Baul and Terrell Farley etc… There have been plenty of shady things that have gone on at NU over the years.

 

[knapplc]

There was plenty of talk about steroids in the 80’s. Wasn’t there a book put out about the crap that went down during those days? Also wasn’t there a steroid bust in Lincoln where 2-3 players had their names dropped during it?

For the record maybe every school has a Lawrence Phillips however we also had Riley Washington, Abdul “Bullet-Butt” Christian Peter, Shevin Wiggins, Reggie Baul and Terrell Farley etc… There have been plenty of shady things that have gone on at NU over the years.

Which players were named in the steroid bust? When did that happen?

And yes, those players you list did star here and did have legal problems (some of them very significant legal problems), but again, name a school that doesn't have issues like this.

Newearth, it's great that you remember the several players who had significant legal problems while they were Huskers. Do you remember the academic all-americans we had during that era as well, or just the bad guys? Why bring these guys up? What's the point? Again, EVERY school has guys with these kinds of issues.