Rhule finally feels like the "right coach" for Nebraska

NU only made two mistakes.

Firing Frank when it was clear his issue was just that he was not "ready" to get rid of his aging staff. I think he more than proved he was a "good" coach with what he did at Ohio. Would he have won it at all NU? No, probably not, but that is true for 99% of coaches. T

The new Bama coach will be an interesting study. Now with a real playoff, he will probably keep his job. Had it just been a playoff of 4 and most likely he would not have made it again this year, he would be in the same boat as Frank was...

Firing Bo. Bo would have continued to win 9-10 games each year and now with NIL would have done even better.
 
SuperBigFan69 said:
Firing Frank when it was clear his issue was just that he was not "ready" to get rid of his aging staff. I think he more than proved he was a "good" coach with what he did at Ohio. Would he have won it at all NU? No, probably not, but that is true for 99% of coaches. T
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The "aging staff" was forced on him by TO. He finally cleaned house and had a good year. He should have been given more time after that happened.

SuperBigFan69 said:
Firing Bo. Bo would have continued to win 9-10 games each year and now with NIL would have done even better.
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Meh....his act grew old. Sure, he won 9-10 games which was one hell of a lot better than what we have had since. However, I believe the real mistake was who we hired to replace him.
 
BigRedBuster said:
The "aging staff" was forced on him by TO. He finally cleaned house and had a good year. He should have been given more time after that happened.


Meh....his act grew old. Sure, he won 9-10 games which was one hell of a lot better than what we have had since. However, I believe the real mistake was who we hired to replace him.
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But with Bo it was not "an act" it was just who he was...he would get mad.

The mistake was hiring Eichorst who did not know how to work with and support Bo. Bad bosses make bad "workers"
 
SuperBigFan69 said:
Firing Bo. Bo would have continued to win 9-10 games each year and now with NIL would have done even better.
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Maybe. Who knows? But if Nebraska made a big mistake firing Bo, other teams would have taken advantage of it. Both Youngstown State and LSU fired him after fewer seasons with more sympathetic athletic directors. Bo is only 57 and out of coaching entirely.

The bigger mistake, maybe, was the local perception that Nebraska was a plum job that would attract top coaches who had better offers elsewhere. Ended up getting rebuffed and forced to scour Tier II of coaches while on the clock.

All those missteps with Callahan, Pelini, and Riley seemed like they would be washed away when hot prospect and local hero Scott Frost returned. It's a funny game.
 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
Maybe. Who knows? But if Nebraska made a big mistake firing Bo, other teams would have taken advantage of it. Both Youngstown State and LSU fired him after fewer seasons. Bo is only 57 and out of coaching entirely.
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You mean he is 57, super rich, happy and retired? Yeah, what a loser. The guy got 4 million in one lump sum to leave LSU.

He clearly has no interest in coaching right now. He could be on the Kentucky staff today if he wanted a job there.

And he took YSU to the title game.

I mean, you could be right and maybe no one wants him or he could just be happy living his life.
 
SuperBigFan69 said:
But with Bo it was not "an act" it was just who he was...he would get mad.

The mistake was hiring Eichorst who did not know how to work with and support Bo. Bad bosses make bad "workers"
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I totally agree with Eichorst. However, employees are fired for things all the time not related to the bottom line results (wins vs losses in this case). He was the face of the University and state in many ways. The way he conducts himself is going to be judged.

Let me ask this. Let's say Rhule has a great year this year and goes on to have a number of years very similar to Bo's results. Now, in a wierd sitaution, you have to decide if you are going to hire/keep Bo or Matt. Which one would you pick? For me, it's Matt because he isn't just getting results, he's also representing the University and state in a manner in which I want.
 
BigRedBuster said:
I totally agree with Eichorst. However, employees are fired for things all the time not related to the bottom line results (wins vs losses in this case). He was the face of the University and state in many ways. The way he conducts himself is going to be judged.

Let me ask this. Let's say Rhule has a great year this year and goes on to have a number of years very similar to Bo's results. Now, in a wierd sitaution, you have to decide if you are going to hire/keep Bo or Matt. Which one would you pick? For me, it's Matt because he isn't just getting results, he's also representing the University and state in a manner in which I want.
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If both the records are the same who would I keep?

I personally liked Bo, I would keep him. Matt seems a little bit more like a talker, nothing wrong with that, I just get tired of it. But I think both are good guys. I mean, Rhule had his guys no shake hands at the Iowa game and then pretended like he didn't know about it, that was lame. I think he also got flagged already for berating an official, which I don't care about it but fans acted like Bo killed someone when he did it.
 
Let me say this because I think this is where this is always a bit of an issue.

I was never "embarrassed" by Bo, I think that is weird. Just like I was not "embarrassed" by TO for hiding a gun and playing LP later on after he beat a girl.
 
SuperBigFan69 said:
I honestly don't know.

I am guessing for having a bad season or two but I have no clue about YSU football except for that one nugget.
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If I remember right, he was running from a recruiting violation investigation.

Went on to be the worst defensive coordinator in the entire country for one year at LSU.

In either case, the actual reality turned out to be a far cry from the narrative that he'd have his pick of any job in college or the NFL if Nebraska ever got sick of his antics.

Solich went on to have a hall of fame coaching career. That one we all agree was a mistake.
 
Mavric said:
Eichorst was hired with the directive to fire Bo. You need to go farther up the chain to lay the "bad boss" blame.
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Yeah, wasn't it Harvey that hired Eichorst...on his own...after telling Bo "Yeah, I am going to want your input on the new AD" and then hired Eichorst without talking to Bo or TO...and then also called the AP to say he was mad at Bo for getting upset during the AM game where NU was flagged 20 times?
 
BigRedBuster said:
The "aging staff" was forced on him by TO. He finally cleaned house and had a good year. He should have been given more time after that happened.
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Our record was decent that year. We beat one P5 team with a winning record and got blown out in the losses. So the record was propped up by a weak schedule.

The Dude said:
Solich went on to have a hall of fame coaching career. That one we all agree was a mistake.
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He didn't win a conference title in the MAC. He never won more than 9 regular season games. There isn't any reason to think he would have have done better in a tougher conference.

The good MAC coaches get better jobs. He seemed to be a nice guy who had decent success for a long time. He probably got at least as much Hall of Fame credit for being part of a coaching staff that won multiple national championships as he did for what he was able to do on his own. Basically a lifetime achievement award.
 
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