Huskers passing offense and O-Line is missing the obvious

admo

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Don't often start topics, but this one is for the offense and it's issues / problems passing against defenses that know your weaknesses. This may include strategy and playing smarter, quicker or aggressive.

The O-Line absorbs a lot of blame, but it's not exactly the root cause of the problems. They are not playing great, but they do not have to every time a pass play is called.

Routes might be an issue.

Not having a receiver in slot that can quickly go 5 yards and sit as a hot-route may be an issue. But please, no Tight Ends for this job. They are slow off the ball. This is a burner route to defuse the pressure.

Also, depending on the RB as the hot-route is not always good, especially when he has to look backwards to wait and catch a pass 5 yards behind the LOS. And then turn up-field with a defender closing in.

All I want you to do is watch other games. Particularly the better offenses in the SEC, the Ohio State's, the Indiana's, the Oregon's etc, some Big 12 teams and even some of the better ACC teams.

Just watch and count Mississippi's.

The defensive coverage is pretty much always the same. Zone underneath, sometimes man. Outside man coverage, sometimes press-coverage with 1 or 2 corners. Sending a blitzer and also dropping into zone coverage. It is all the same.

Again, watch these games with good teams (top 25 teams for sure). And count Mississippi's (for seconds).

Nearly every QB is in a quick position and ready to release and throw the ball in 2 seconds. 2 seconds. Sometimes 1.5 seconds. And it's always out of their hands in 3 seconds or less.

That is what most of the good teams do on nearly 70-75% off passing plays. And even play action is rapid.

Then watch the Huskers. The ball isn't out of the hand in 3 seconds or less. In fact we are still faking a handoff and looking downfield. While pressure occurs in the backfield at 3 or 3.5 seconds (mostly) and it leaves us into a scramble situation.

That is the main problem. Not having a quick hot route by a speedy player. Taking too long to determine where to throw the ball. And not playing fast and getting rid of the ball in under 3 seconds.

To me, that's an offensive strategy and QB problem more than an offensive line issue. Just watch the games that NU doesn't play and see how simple it is to get into throwing position and release it for a positive play.
 
The Huskers offense isn't quick and aggressive with pass plays. It's just a passing offense.

You are not going to get defenders back on their heels if you don't strike quickly with decisions and routes. That's the beauty of the passing game. And when you hit enough of them, it helps the running game even more. Which then opens up Play action and deep shots.
 
DR stands 5-6 yards behind the LOS. It literally takes 2 seconds to drop back 3 steps, plant and throw to a spot. Which leaves it up to the receiver to react and make a play 5-7 yards off the LOS.

It's not rocket-science. Just watch the games and see how quickly QBs are releasing the ball once they get it. Sometimes it's only 1.5 seconds.

We cannot be effective waiting for the perfect route to develop. Something has to change with staff and DR to understand this.

And uptempo is always a good thing to create urgency. It does not mean you have to hike the ball immediately. But the urgency to get ready to go for the next play puts the pressure on the defense.
 
The Husker process for running and PA is slow and sluggish from shotgun formation.

If you want to see how it's supposed to be done, how quickly it is supposed to be, watch Alabama vs Tennessee tonight. Which is no different than the way tOSU, Indiana, Texas Tech, SMU, Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon etc, run it.

It's quick and deliberate.

Watch the games and time it.

QB quickly turns and hands it off.
The Huskers? Slow process.

QB quickly turns and fakes the hand-off, then immediately brings the ball above his shoulder and throws it immediately to a WR.
The Huskers? Nope, slow again. While sitting back and looking for a play to develop.

The quicker the better. The more urgency the better. You do that enough it puts the defense on their heels. You do it again and again, and it will buy you more time to look down-field at different times.

The staff needs to put emphasis on quickness, the timing, the urgency on the plays being developed, and the hot-routes that do not involve the RBs to bail them out of hot water.

DR can sling it accurately. This offense needs to alleviate the pressure on the QB by creating pressure on the defense with quick pick and pop concepts, even in man coverage. Give the WR's the chance to make plays and help out your O-Line from getting murdered and blamed for 3.5 seconds each passing play.
 
The Husker process for running and PA is slow and sluggish from shotgun formation.

If you want to see how it's supposed to be done, how quickly it is supposed to be, watch Alabama vs Tennessee tonight. Which is no different than the way tOSU, Indiana, Texas Tech, SMU, Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon etc, run it.

It's quick and deliberate.

Watch the games and time it.

QB quickly turns and hands it off.
The Huskers? Slow process.

QB quickly turns and fakes the hand-off, then immediately brings the ball above his shoulder and throws it immediately to a WR.
The Huskers? Nope, slow again. While sitting back and looking for a play to develop.

The quicker the better. The more urgency the better. You do that enough it puts the defense on their heels. You do it again and again, and it will buy you more time to look down-field at different times.

The staff needs to put emphasis on quickness, the timing, the urgency on the plays being developed, and the hot-routes that do not involve the RBs to bail them out of hot water.

DR can sling it accurately. This offense needs to alleviate the pressure on the QB by creating pressure on the defense with quick pick and pop concepts, even in man coverage. Give the WR's the chance to make plays and help out your O-Line from getting murdered and blamed for 3.5 seconds each passing play.
Dylan sometimes might be accurate. The kid overthrows every single fade route. Why not just call fade and then have him take a knee? Maybe tell the ref you called fade and then have them flip to the next down marker and call a new play?

He also missed Dane who was wide open in the first half.

Where is Dylan currently on any draft board right now? Where is he on any top 15-20 QB list in the country? He's a very slow pocket processor. His feet are even slower. He's not it.
 
I can't disgagree. Last night Miny made money of the quick inside slant right off the LOS. In front of man or in between the zones. Like when TE's used to kill us under Riley or Frost maybe. I can't recall who. I was saying the same thing at home last night. Do a quick 3 step drop and hit the quick outs or slant. This will start to loosen up the D. Dylan has a slow release. Dana needs to call plays that require him to throw quicker. He throws a YOLO fade pass. Quit calling those. Let him roll out. Negates a slower release issue and have OL move the pocket. Happens a bull rush. I still think Dylan has the potential to be very successful. He just needs help from the DC and OL. Shorter quicker routes. Faster developing run plays. No DC is thinking Dylan is keeping on a RPO....Try a QB keeper. I hated last night watching EL be 8 yards back and Dylan drop back for the obvious hand off and see him slam into the DL for a loss.
 
100% agree. What’s a little disheartening is that we’ve had success with the shorter quick passing game vs Maryland.

I’ll watch later but it seemed like since the mesh point of handing off to EJ was so far back of the LOS at times that they sent people from the weak side as soon as DR looked to hand off. By the time EJ got the ball or was a PA, someone was there to blow it up or affect the play enough to make EJ run away from any holes that might be open at the line or it was sack.
 
100% agree. What’s a little disheartening is that we’ve had success with the shorter quick passing game vs Maryland.

I’ll watch later but it seemed like since the mesh point of handing off to EJ was so far back of the LOS at times that they sent people from the weak side as soon as DR looked to hand off. By the time EJ got the ball or was a PA, someone was there to blow it up or affect the play enough to make EJ run away from any holes that might be open at the line or it was sack.
Was mentioned in the threads that this was happening. The DE's would key on this and just crash. And for reasons unknown, Dana had no answers.
 
The Gophers’ nine sacks were the most allowed by the Huskers since Oklahoma also took Zac Taylor to the ground nine times in 2005. This ties the program record for sacks allowed in a game. - Sports Illustrated
 
The more film, the more coaches see how to stop us. Minnesota rushed 4, man to man tight cover & took away the short pass. We are soft! You can blame Dylan all you want, but receivers can not get off the bump & he has no time to go through progressions. This is a team issue.
 
It's amazing how different Julian Sayin and Dylan's career arcs are looking at this point. Decision on schools. Coaches' ability to develop.

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Northwestern just blanked Purdue. USC looked competent in a loss. UCLA and Iowa - nail biters but won.

It's possible Nebraska loses out from here. That's how "developed" this team is halfway through Rhule year 3.

Zero contingency for losing Nash and Ty. None. Jeudy isn't it. Took 4b star O Line recruits and made them hoping for a Free Agent look in the NFL. The entire team is a wreck.
 
It's amazing how different Julian Sayin and Dylan's career arcs are looking at this point. Decision on schools. Coaches' ability to develop.

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Northwestern just blanked Purdue. USC looked competent in a loss. UCLA and Iowa - nail biters but won.

It's possible Nebraska loses out from here. That's how "developed" this team is halfway through Rhule year 3.

Zero contingency for losing Nash and Ty. None. Jeudy isn't it. Took 4b star O Line recruits and made them hoping for a Free Agent look in the NFL. The entire team is a wreck.
Culture has been an issue for years. We lack toughness & pride.
 
Culture has been an issue for years. We lack toughness & pride.
When Satterfield was exposed as a fraud, he should've been released from the program. Gone. The kids watch a fraud retained and know there isn;t real accountability.

If you're TJ Lateef at this point what are you thinking? The team is indeed a wreck, but Raiola is so underwhelming. TJ has to be thinking "Give me a shot, I can help." But Rhule continues to hold on to incompetence across multiple Staff members and players.

How can you have pride and be tough when you see the head man operating this way? Suck at your job? No worry, we have a place for you here!
 
Toughness & pride has to do with players. Coaches can only do so much. Do we have some coaches that need to go, yes! ⁸ The fact that a few olinemen were upset about fan backlash instead being accountable for their poor play is a concern. We are #2 in sacks allowed & will probably win the record for most in a season!
 
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