The Fightin' Frankies are trying to make history today

[Nexus]

Good try Frankie. Get 'em next year.

 

[Husker Richard]

that game basically cost me my bowl pickem pool. thanks frank!

 

[Husker Richard]

that game basically cost me my bowl pickem pool. thanks frank!

 

[Husker Richard]

that game basically cost me my bowl pickem pool. thanks frank!

 

[Jeremy]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

 

[Jeremy]

QUOTE(HuskersNC949597 @ Dec 26 2009, 03:14 PM)

QUOTE(huKSer @ Dec 26 2009, 02:37 PM)

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

 

[zoogs]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

No, Frank had our program going south. Our offense was going nowhere with the guys he was bringing in.

You know, the transformation was a bit painful, but on the whole, not too bad. '05 and '06 were extremely entertaining, enjoyable seasons. '07 saw the Rise of the Ganz and his year-long campaign of putting up video game statistics. And then we got Bo and where we are now.

I like that we have Bo now, coming off his LSU and Oklahoma pedigree, and I like that BC, in his four years, gave us the offensive overhaul that he did. We found a LOT of starters in that landmark '05 class, and now the future is looking very bright.

We've had two bad years since Frank was fired, let's not act like it's all doom and gloom. The glory days of old will never return, and the post-Solich era has been a pretty fun few years of being a Husker fan, mostly. More fun than '02 and '03 for sure.

 

[HuskersNC949597]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

Nebraska couldn't even beat teams like Utah State/Troy State like they beat the teams you listed this season because Solich's offense sucked so bad. It took a monster performance by Demorrio Williams and the rest of the defense to hand NU's offense the ball at the goal line for his worthless QB left/QB right/QB draw pop-up playbook to get the ball in the end zone those games. Also, with the exception of TTU, Nebraska didn't get run off the field by the good teams they faced this season, and damn near BEAT Texas and VT. As soon as you let me know how Joe Dailey and Allan Evridge did after their transfers, I'll tell you how Nebraska's offense was going to do if Solich had been retained. As if 122 total yards against the nation's 80th ranked defense this afternoon isn't a big enough hint.

 

[Count 'Bility]

So you meat to tell me that this Frank guy that coaches Ohio is the same Frank Solich who played fullback for Nebraska in the 60's? Wow, nice to see someone like that finally get into coaching. :w00t

 

[Jeremy]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

No, Frank had our program going south. Our offense was going nowhere with the guys he was bringing in.

You know, the transformation was a bit painful, but on the whole, not too bad. '05 and '06 were extremely entertaining, enjoyable seasons. '07 saw the Rise of the Ganz and his year-long campaign of putting up video game statistics. And then we got Bo and where we are now.

I like that we have Bo now, coming off his LSU and Oklahoma pedigree, and I like that BC, in his four years, gave us the offensive overhaul that he did. We found a LOT of starters in that landmark '05 class, and now the future is looking very bright.

We've had two bad years since Frank was fired, let's not act like it's all doom and gloom. The glory days of old will never return, and the post-Solich era has been a pretty fun few years of being a Husker fan, mostly. More fun than '02 and '03 for sure.

0-21 vs. Top 18 since Black 41 Flash. That's what I call doom and freaking gloom.

Our offense is nowhere right now with guys Callahan brought in. With the '03 offense, the only game we lose this year is to Texico Tech.

'04

10-70 vs. Texico Tech

21-45 vs. KSU

3-30 vs. OU

NO BOWL GAME

'05

15-40 vs. KU

'06

10-28 vs. USC

29-41 vs. OSU

'07

31-49 vs. USC

6-41 vs. MU

14-45 vs. OSU on Homecoming

14-36 vs. aTm

39-76 vs. KU

51-65 vs. CU

NO BOWL GAME

I don't know about you, but I didn't really consider these things enjoyable at all. It wasn't just a 'painful transition.' It SUCKED. I'm not asking for glory days. I'm asking for Husker play we can be proud of. Was I always proud of the way we played under Solich? Of course not, but I sure as hell didn't/don't enjoy seeing linemen playing patty cake in the trenches en route to a 60 point loss. That's not Nebraska. Never has been, never will be.

 

[Jadler]

that game basically cost me my bowl pickem pool. thanks frank!

Exact same with me.

 

[Jeremy]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

Nebraska couldn't even beat teams like Utah State/Troy State like they beat the teams you listed this season because Solich's offense sucked so bad. It took a monster performance by Demorrio Williams and the rest of the defense to hand NU's offense the ball at the goal line for his worthless QB left/QB right/QB draw pop-up playbook to get the ball in the end zone those games. Also, with the exception of TTU, Nebraska didn't get run off the field by the good teams they faced this season, and damn near BEAT Texas and VT. As soon as you let me know how Joe Dailey and Allan Evridge did after their transfers, I'll tell you how Nebraska's offense was going to do if Solich had been retained. As if 122 total yards against the nation's 80th ranked defense this afternoon isn't a big enough hint.

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker offense is better than the '03 offense? Really?

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker defense didn't completely and utterly carry the team to any and all success they had?

At least in '03 we had a ground game, something we desperately needed this year.

 

[HUSKER 37]

No, Frank had our program going south. Our offense was going nowhere with the guys he was bringing in.

You know, the transformation was a bit painful, but on the whole, not too bad. '05 and '06 were extremely entertaining, enjoyable seasons. '07 saw the Rise of the Ganz and his year-long campaign of putting up video game statistics. And then we got Bo and where we are now.

I like that we have Bo now, coming off his LSU and Oklahoma pedigree, and I like that BC, in his four years, gave us the offensive overhaul that he did. We found a LOT of starters in that landmark '05 class, and now the future is looking very bright.

We've had two bad years since Frank was fired, let's not act like it's all doom and gloom. The glory days of old will never return, and the post-Solich era has been a pretty fun few years of being a Husker fan, mostly. More fun than '02 and '03 for sure.

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Seriously?

The WCO sucked balls..HARD.

Callihan didn't even attempt to mold the offense to fit the existing players and was clueless as far as making any adjustments durring the game or even at halftime.

This is the first year since Frankie (2001) that most Husker fans I've run into out here weren't pretty much apologetic or ashamed.

I'd almost rather have had Houston Nutt as our coach than Callihan.

 

[HuskersNC949597]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

Nebraska couldn't even beat teams like Utah State/Troy State like they beat the teams you listed this season because Solich's offense sucked so bad. It took a monster performance by Demorrio Williams and the rest of the defense to hand NU's offense the ball at the goal line for his worthless QB left/QB right/QB draw pop-up playbook to get the ball in the end zone those games. Also, with the exception of TTU, Nebraska didn't get run off the field by the good teams they faced this season, and damn near BEAT Texas and VT. As soon as you let me know how Joe Dailey and Allan Evridge did after their transfers, I'll tell you how Nebraska's offense was going to do if Solich had been retained. As if 122 total yards against the nation's 80th ranked defense this afternoon isn't a big enough hint.

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker offense is better than the '03 offense? Really?

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker defense didn't completely and utterly carry the team to any and all success they had?

At least in '03 we had a ground game, something we desperately needed this year.

No, I'm telling you Solich is not a good enough head coach and Nebraska's offense would continue to be at '03 or '09 levels or worse as long he's around. His team could only manage 122 yards against Marshall's 80th ranked defense, let that crap sink in. With Pelini, at least he can change offensive coordinators and will have a comparatively limited influence on that side of the ball. And once again, the 2003 team played a weak schedule. They still averaged only 235 yards/game, 90 yards better than this year's team, which averages about 70 more yards passing per game. Basically, comparing '03 to '09 is like comparing crap to vomit.

Versus Texas in '03: 40 carries, 53 yards. This year, 35 carries, 67 yards.

Versus Kansas State: 41 carries, 195 yards. Of course on NU's only TD, Lord's knee was clearly down before he threw the ball, thus if replay existed Nebraska would have finished with a whopping 2 points, oh but without a shutout on the line, KSU probably doesn't take that safety, so you're looking at being shutout on Senior Day.

Versus mighty Troy State: 47 carries, 186 yards, less than 4 ypc.

I believe Iowa State went winless or close to it that year, NU couldn't even put up 300 yards rushing on them. Penn State finished 2003 with a 3-9 record, Pelini's defense forced 5 turnovers, yet Nebraska could manage only 4 field goals and one miraculous sustained drive for a TD (Michigan State racked up 41 on PSU, we saw how they did in the Alamo. . .)

Of course, Nebraska rushed for 207 and 248 this year against VT and ISU so you can't blame those losses on a weakness in the ground game without making similar concessions for that abortion of a 2003 unit as well (8 turnovers is a fluke). While I'm at it, against Utah State in 2003, Nebraska trailed 7-6 at the end of the first quarter. They didn't put the game away until Demorrio Williams forced 2 fumbles and gave NU a short field. This year against Florida Atlantic, the defense didn't force a turnover until it was 28-3. There were 0 turnovers by Arkansas State, and against ULL it was 20-0 Nebraska before the cajuns turned it over. I could go over the defensive touchdowns/short fields in all of NU's other games in 2003, but I don't care. My issue here is not whether Nebraska sucks on offense in 2009, it's about which head coach is more likely to fix the problem: the guy who in his fifth year of his current job just got waxed on offense in a bowl game by a lousy Marshall team, or a guy in his second year as a head coach period who nearly destroyed the #2 team in the country's entire season. 62-36, that was the end of Nebraska's tradition.

 

[Jeremy]

Pedy initiated the downward spiral of death by firing him after a 9 or 10 win season.

:violin Thank god Troy State and Utah State were on the schedule. 9 wins is a myth, Nebraska was blasted by every good team they faced down the stretch thanks to an absolutely inept offense. The mistake was in not immediately promoting Pelini or Gill.

6-6 (now 7-6) Marshall beats Ohio <_<

'Spose you could say thank god for Fla. Atlantic, Arkansas St., and La. Lafayette then, right? I suppose our 9 wins this year are a myth then, as well. Are all of Osborne's 9+ win seasons myths because he had patsies on the schedule?

The mistake was firing Solich, plain and simple. It basically ruined one of the longest and richest traditions in all of college football.

Nebraska couldn't even beat teams like Utah State/Troy State like they beat the teams you listed this season because Solich's offense sucked so bad. It took a monster performance by Demorrio Williams and the rest of the defense to hand NU's offense the ball at the goal line for his worthless QB left/QB right/QB draw pop-up playbook to get the ball in the end zone those games. Also, with the exception of TTU, Nebraska didn't get run off the field by the good teams they faced this season, and damn near BEAT Texas and VT. As soon as you let me know how Joe Dailey and Allan Evridge did after their transfers, I'll tell you how Nebraska's offense was going to do if Solich had been retained. As if 122 total yards against the nation's 80th ranked defense this afternoon isn't a big enough hint.

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker offense is better than the '03 offense? Really?

Are you trying to tell me that the '09 Husker defense didn't completely and utterly carry the team to any and all success they had?

At least in '03 we had a ground game, something we desperately needed this year.

No, I'm telling you Solich is not a good enough head coach and Nebraska's offense would continue to be at '03 or '09 levels or worse as long he's around. His team could only manage 122 yards against Marshall's 80th ranked defense, let that crap sink in. With Pelini, at least he can change offensive coordinators and will have a comparatively limited influence on that side of the ball. And once again, the 2003 team played a weak schedule. They still averaged only 235 yards/game, 90 yards better than this year's team, which averages about 70 more yards passing per game. Basically, comparing '03 to '09 is like comparing crap to vomit.

Versus Texas in '03: 40 carries, 53 yards. This year, 35 carries, 67 yards.

Versus Kansas State: 41 carries, 195 yards. Of course on NU's only TD, Lord's knee was clearly down before he threw the ball, thus if replay existed Nebraska would have finished with a whopping 2 points, oh but without a shutout on the line, KSU probably doesn't take that safety, so you're looking at being shutout on Senior Day.

Versus mighty Troy State: 47 carries, 186 yards, less than 4 ypc.

I believe Iowa State went winless or close to it that year, NU couldn't even put up 300 yards rushing on them. Penn State finished 2003 with a 3-9 record, Pelini's defense forced 5 turnovers, yet Nebraska could manage only 4 field goals and one miraculous sustained drive for a TD (Michigan State racked up 41 on PSU, we saw how they did in the Alamo. . .)

Of course, Nebraska rushed for 207 and 248 this year against VT and ISU so you can't blame those losses on a weakness in the ground game without making similar concessions for that abortion of a 2003 unit as well (8 turnovers is a fluke). While I'm at it, against Utah State in 2003, Nebraska trailed 7-6 at the end of the first quarter. They didn't put the game away until Demorrio Williams forced 2 fumbles and gave NU a short field. This year against Florida Atlantic, the defense didn't force a turnover until it was 28-3. There were 0 turnovers by Arkansas State, and against ULL it was 20-0 Nebraska before the cajuns turned it over. I could go over the defensive touchdowns/short fields in all of NU's other games in 2003, but I don't care. My issue here is not whether Nebraska sucks on offense in 2009, it's about which head coach is more likely to fix the problem: the guy who in his fifth year of his current job just got waxed on offense in a bowl game by a lousy Marshall team, or a guy in his second year as a head coach period who nearly destroyed the #2 team in the country's entire season. 62-36, that was the end of Nebraska's tradition.

Okay, okay, I see what you're saying - it's really a Pelini/Solich issue, in that Nebraska is actually in better hands with Pelini than it was with Solich since 62-36.

I would agree with that, except we HAD Pelini in '03. Do you think that the offense today has a brighter future now than it did then? We don't even know what kind of offense we'll run for the next game, much less next season. The coaches don't even seem to agree on it.

My issue is that I'm always looking back through the Callahan era, and anything looks better than '04-'07 to me.