Keeping them Home: 5* & 4* recruits in Nebraska
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HuskerShark
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haha from Nebraska, the only one that I can recall as a 4 or 5 star recruit was Baker Steinkuhler, and that was more than 3 years ago I think. Who else was a 4 or 5 star?
MinnwiscowaSker
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Baker was in the '08 class. I only found two in that range that were both four stars: Ryne Reeves and Andrew Rodriquez
Omaha-Husker
All-Conference
Wow. Those southern states generate so much in-state talent. How can schools compete against that? No wonder the SEc is so tough to contend with.
Muck
Special Teams Player
Compare their chart of States producing the most 'Rivals' 4 & 5 stars with the second one that shows the number of current NFL (as of 2010) players listed by the State from which they graduated HS.robsker said:
Interesting difference isn't it? Virtually every southern State is rated higher by Rivals than by NFL scouts conversely northern States are almost universally rated lower.
Rivals:
Florida 160
Texas 138
California 113
Georgia 74
Ohio 46
Louisiana 35
Alabama 33
South Carolina 32
North Carolina 31
Mississippi 30
Virginia 30
Pennsylvania 28
Maryland 26
Illinois 25
TSUN 24
Players in the NFL:
(-2) California 211
(NC) Texas 181
(+2) Florida 177
(-1) Ohio 85
(+1) Georgia 80
(NC) Louisiana 68
(-5) Pennsylvania 56
(at least -7) New Jersey 55 (not in top 15 according to Rivals)
(-6) TSUN 53
(+3) Alabama 50
(NC) Virginia 50
(+4) South Carolina 46
(-1) Illinois 43
(+5) North Carolina 42
(at least +5) Mississppi not in the top 14 NFL producers
(at least +2) Maryland not in the top 14 NFL producers
The number in parenthesis is the difference in overall standing on the Rivals list as compared to the NFL one.
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Muck
Special Teams Player
Really?
Rivals - Florida produces 40% more talent than California
NFL - Cali produces 20% more players than Florida
Rivals - Georgia produces 60% more talent than Ohio
NFL - Ohio produces 6% more players than Georgia
Rivals - South Carolina produces 14% more talent than PA
NFL - Penn. produces 21% more players than SC
Rivals - NC produces 30% more talent than TSUN
NFL - TSUN produces 26% more players than NC
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NUance
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Maybe I misunderstood your stats. I took the above quote to mean that California produces 2 fewer (-2) NFL players than the number of 4*/5* players coming from California. Texas is even (NC). And Florida produces 2 more (+2) NFL players than the number of of 4*/5* players from Florida. Does it mean something else?
I would hope so. Seems like the NFL practice of prefering 'measurables' has worked its way down into the HS rating systems. Probably doesn't help that the majority of population centers are in warm weather at this point. Football culture is pretty engrained in those areas too so they are more polished at an early age. That lends to getting an extra star when someone is on the edge.
Muck
Special Teams Player
Sorry for not doing a better job of clarifying
California is #1 at putting players into the NFL
Rivals lists them as the #3 producer of 4/5 stars
California is 2 spots lower on the Rivals list overall than the NFL one
So (-2).
Hope that helps.
Go & look at the actual numbers in the two charts. It shows that northern (and western) States are putting far more players into the NFL than southern based services like Rivals predict.
Pennsylvania & TSUN are both ranked by Rivals as having fewer prospects than North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi & Virginia yet each State puts more players into the NFL than any of the previously listed southern ones.
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I think the number in parenthesis is the difference in rank - e.g., California is ranked two spots lower in the Rivals list than in the NFL list, Florida is two spots higher in rivals, etc.
Edit: Apparently I don't type fast enough.
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I see what you are saying Muck.
It would be interesting to see some info on the next step from these numbers. Specifically, where they are from, where they go/went to school (stick with the state theme), and who they were drafted by. That would provide some regional context and probably some more head scratching. Is this information stored anywhere? The data analysis would be pretty simple.
It would be interesting to see some info on the next step from these numbers. Specifically, where they are from, where they go/went to school (stick with the state theme), and who they were drafted by. That would provide some regional context and probably some more head scratching. Is this information stored anywhere? The data analysis would be pretty simple.