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7 hours ago, jsneb83 said:

I thought she couldn't vote on the impeachment since she is running for President :dunno

 

Edit: Never mind, just read that she couldn't decide one way the other and just voted "present"

 

What a b!^@h

 

3 hours ago, ZRod said:

This is the stupidest post I've seen in awhile.

 

Bro, don't call names.  Feelings get hurt that way 

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8 hours ago, Landlord said:

who's the "they" that lost the Epstein surveillance footage?

Did Google lose it? 

 

Or do the Democrats run their own prison I wasn't aware of? 

 

This Deep State stuff is too confusing.

 

Yes, Google lost it.  You funny bro.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/12/18/jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-video-is-missing.html

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/jeffery-epstein-surveillance-video-jail-cell-missing.amp

 

I used Google to get yall some of them links, maybe they did do it.

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With the Senate in lock step with Trump, the Dems main hope is an unlikely white knight in the form of Chef Justice Roberts.

The Senate Dems will push for the the testimony of WH staff that weren't allowed to testify by the WH - Bolton, Malcavany, etc.

Roberts will be in the position to rule for or against the Dem procedural challenge.  A simple majority vote could override Roberts but

that may not look very good - esp for any blue state GOP senators. 

Roberts as the new Obi-Wan

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https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article238470443.html

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In the Senate trial set to begin early in the new year, Democrats are especially eager to hear from acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and former National Security Adviser John Bolton.

If Democrats make a procedural motion on the Senate floor to compel these witnesses to appear — as Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said he would — it could be up to Roberts to decide the issue.

“I would hope that Chief Justice Roberts can exert some pressure on the Senate majority leader, to say to him that everything Americans hold dear in terms of due process, in terms of the constitutional requirements for the Senate, to be impartial and to have a fair trial,” said Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee.

 

McConnell, R-Ky., has already signaled his disinterest in hearing from Bolton and Mulvaney. If he and fellow Republicans don’t like Roberts’ rulings, they could vote to overrule the chief justice by a simple majority.

Some House Democrats are counting on this scenario, which would force GOP lawmakers to publicly defy the chief justice.

“Having the chief justice say that [the witnesses] are relevant will put senators in a position where they’d have to vote against the rules that they were relevant,” said Rep. Eric Swalwell of California, a Democrat serving on the House Intelligence and Judiciary committees,

The notion that Roberts will rule in their favor is an improbable expectation that reflects the political weaknesses Democrats face entering a Senate trial, where Republicans hold the majority and are operating in concert with the president.

Senate Democrats may be more realistic than their House counterparts about the likelihood of Roberts intervening in lawmaker disputes over witness testimony.

“We know that the mechanism for decision-making in the midst of the trial is a majority vote for the Senate, and I would assume that he would give us our constitutional opportunity to debate things, or at least to discuss them and to reach that vote,” said Senate Democratic Whip d!(k Durbin of Illinois. “Beyond that, I don’t know that there’s much he has power over.”

Some Democrats said they might have more success in compelling witness testimony if they can get Republicans to vote with them.

Republican converts could come from a coalition of Trump allies who want exculpatory witnesses for the president, paired with moderates who are sympathetic to Democratic demands.

“The simple answer is yes, I hope the Chief Justice will take a more proactive role. The tradition has been that he’s more passive,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who is leading a lawsuit alleging that Trump violated the emoluments clause.

“I think our best hope is actually convincing a number of our Republican colleagues that the only way to achieve a fair and full proceeding is to give the American people the witnesses and documents they deserve to see and hear,” Blumenthal said.

 

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