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This should shock nobody. There was no way any other scenario was gonna happen.

No it doesn't. We're raking in tens of millions of dollars more than we did in that crackpot league. We play more blue-bloods in this conference than they have. We have access to amazing educational opportunities that the Big XII couldn't even think of offering. There is no scenario where we would be better off in the Big XII today than the Big Ten. The Faculty Senate overwhelmingly showed that, and that's just based on academics. Let's not judge our conference based solely on football. It may be the chief sport, but it's not the chief reason we're in the Big Ten.

Good lord, the amount of misinformation on this board is ridiculous. Since I keep getting censored for responding to political talking points with facts, I’ll make this my last post about this topic and move on. Clearly some want to stay in their bubble of ignorance, rather than hear the on the ground facts. If anything, we’re under reporting COVID deaths. The healthcare community has widely known this for months. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-covid-19-deaths-are-counted1/ JAMA study estimates that 35% of excess deaths during pandemic's early months were tied to causes other than COVID-19. https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/covid-19/covid-19-associated-deaths-significantly-undercounted KEY TAKEAWAYS COVID-19 accounts for only two-thirds of the estimated 87,000 excessive deaths tracked across the nation between March 1 and May 30. Deaths from causes other than COVID-19 spiked in regions that also had the most COVID-19 deaths. At COVID-19's peak, diabetes deaths in five hard-hit states rose 96% above the expected number of deaths. Deaths from heart disease (89%), Alzheimer's disease (64%) and stroke (35%) in those states also spiked. New York City's death rates rose 398% from heart disease and 356% from diabetes.

This angle is severely overblown IMO. How many teams still have scholarships remaining for this season? How many schools are already past enrollment deadlines? You're gonna leave Nebraska to go play somewhere in CUSA when there's no guarantee they play either? Not to mention most if not all kids would need a waiver to be eligible to play this year. If a kid was already planning or thinking about leaving, this may be a good excuse to go. But I doubt there is some mass exodus coming as a result of this.

We aren't going anywhere, folks. Stick it, national pundits.

And that's OK. Hey Grandpa....you were going to die next year anyway. This is a pathetic argument that I've seen other places as to why not take it seriously. And...just because the majority of deaths are in the elderly, doesn't mean there isn't a significant number in the younger population. And..not all of those were unhealthy individuals. It also doesn't take into account the long term health affects of many younger people who get it and don't die.

Unfortunately, the Village Idiots have keyboards and social media now.

Leaving everything the Big 10 delivers to the entire university over a single football season? Batting our eyelashes at an inferior Big 12 that already chased us away? WTF, Husker fans?

I mostly work with medicare - less with private insurance. Medicare pays a flat rate based on diagnosis. Medicare has agreed to pay 20% more for a covid diagnosis, over similar treatment plans - but there is absolutely no incentive to lie about it - the federal govt will have your a$$. We're talking massive fines and prison time if you are trying to rip off the govt. I take it with how much private insurance loves their money - they would take kindly to hospitals ripping them off as well....insurance companies have nurses/medical professionals on staff for a reason - its so they don't get stiffed. As for death, I can't think of a single reason to lie about someone dying from Covid. Like I said hospitals get paid based on diagnosis - not cause of death. Cant wrap my head around that one.

Scroll down to daily new cases People not going for health care services. Exercising less. Alcohol consumption rising. Obviously Covid is a major factor but it's not the only factor. Since this is the football thread, why aren't we comparing annual deaths among people age 18-25?

Rivals Fact or Fiction

While I'm not a huge fan of Andy Staples, his is one of the fairest takes on this false controversy I've seen.

I don't disagree with you, and NU is committed to finding any way to play games this Fall. But this statement says that they will only play those games with the express consent of the league. So if we played NDSU, for example, the B1G would have to sign off on it. We're putting in all the work, and that's what we should do, but sometimes the answer is still "no."

For the "they're over-reporting COVID deaths to make money" crowd...

Speaking of which, the UNL Faculty Senate threw together a straw poll last night asking if the faculty wanted to leave the Big Ten. It was, apparently, real, and before the public got ahold of it (it was open for anyone to vote), the faculty voted 90/10 to stay in the conference. It's always been a stupid conversation. The Big Ten is a home run for a school like Nebraska. Unfortunately, too many people view it as only a football conference and judge its merits accordingly.

You just killed a bunch of threads Seriously, academics is going to win out in these situations. Academic partnership in B1G >>> Big XII. This got overblown because dumb and dumber (Howard and Wilbon - you decide which is which) said things to get themselves noticed. The fact they said nothing negative about OSU's statements about looking at the fall tells you all you need to know. They thought Nebraska was an easy target. Both of them are "old-school" Big Ten guys. Wilbon was at NW when it was 10 teams. PSU had just joined when Howard was playing. I'm sure both hate all 4 of the new teams being part of "their" club. Frost voiced an opinion on exploring the opportunity to play, Warren had a clumsy response, and ESPN, to drive ratings made it into a controversy that Nebraska need to leave the Big Ten. ESPN is getting desperate, since if the SEC/ACC cancel their season, they got bupkis to fill all those programming hours this fall. Oh, and Shatel decides to post a bunch of blather - further inflaming the fan base. Both ESPN and Shatel had the same motivation - their jobs are going to suck this fall if they have no college football. The most hilarious part of this is after all the criticism, ESPN would be the first one knocking on Nebraska's door to televise any games Nebraska plays (assuming all the legal stuff was worked out). Nebraska fans need to remember why Nebraska joined the Big Ten. Athletics were our bargaining chip, but the benefit to us was always going to be the academics.

Sober ?

Announcing our fall 2020 out of conference football schedule I'll bet!

I am curious what other rules and precautions the BIG is putting in place for student athletes as well as just students in general. Will all classes be remote? Have they closed all dorms and asked students to remain at home or in off-campus living? Will they fine students who are not social distancing or wearing a mask? Will parents/students get a refund if they are not getting the same quality experience that they expected to get? If the goal of their decision to cancel fall sports is to prevent the spread of infection, I would assume they are doing so in all other aspects of college living but I have not seen any reports that addresses these questions and am curious if anyone else has seen answers to these questions.

Interesting thread here. Here's the thread unwrapped: Can - and would - the B1G kick out Nebraska for scheduling football games after the conference canceled its season? THREAD. Yesterday, @bigten Commissioner Kevin Warren suggested if Nebraska plays football this season, it could "not and be a member of the Big Ten Conference." Some have interpreted this to suggest the @Huskers would be forced out of the B1G if they opted to play football. But the Big Ten Conference Handbook, Rule 4.1.3, vests "matters concerning admission to or expulsion from the Conference" to "the Council." The Council, in turn, is defined in Handbook Rule 4.1.1 as the designated "chancellor or president of each member university." Since the B1G has fourteen members university, the Council is comprised of fourteen members. Because kicking out a B1G member school is such a big deal, it requires "a vote of not less than seventy percent (70%) of the Council." In other words, at least 10 of the B1G's 14 Council representatives would have to support the measure. (10/14 = 71.4%) Coaches and administrators from Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Iowa have publicly said their respective schools want to play. If they hold the line, they - with Nebraska - could pool their five votes to ensure no school faced any formal B1G repercussion. A separate issue is money, which is governed by contracts to which I'm not privy. It's my understanding B1G member schools pool all media proceeds and share them equally. In my view, nothing about the B1G's decision to cancel football would negate NU's obligation to share TV $. So NU's would-be media paychecks for 2020 games would be split 14 ways. (But we'd also share TV money generated from OSU and any other B1G school that plays.) But the alternative is zero media money. NU would keep 100% of non-media proceeds generated (merchandise, etc.). I was and remain a huge supporter of Nebraska's move to the B1G. It's the nation's best all-around conference, it raises NU's academic profile (and the professors, research grants, and students it can land), it's stable, and it's a huge revenue-producer - dwarfing the Big Twelve. That said, I'm very skeptical of any suggestion that the B1G would try to expel Nebraska for playing football in 2020 - especially after the B1G has declined to take such strict actions against member schools in the wake of serious national scandals (Sandusky, Nassar, etc.). Hat tip to Indiana University @IUHoosiers for publishing the Big Ten Conference Handbook online. (Link below.) END THREAD. iuhoosiers.com/documents/2018… Whoops, two other key considerations: (1) If a charter-member school like Ohio State plays football, this analysis is unnecessary: the B1G isn't going to do anything to anyone. (2) As a full-fledged partner, NU would need to be "bought out" of the B1G - just as it paid to join. Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh.

How bout those Cubs aye!

And deaths are being vastly under-reported.

BS. They aren't benefiting anything like that at all. Nebraska's stance? It's not innovative. It's not moving forward as a critical thinker; This isn't leadership and understanding. In fact, it's undermining (the boss in front of your peers) and out of touch with realism (the big picture). Some people seem WAAAAYYY too obsessed with something they can't have. (College football with student-athletes) It's time to take a knee; sit it out; be safe, heal, learn, study, grow and Redshirt this year. If freshmen are expected to basically do that for you, so can you. And if not, then all you are really saying is (in a whinny way): #FUNCFM - FU-NEBRASKA COLLEGE FOOTBALL MATTERS!!!1 #6-4 OR 5-5 WILL BE WORTH THE CONSEQUENCES!!!1 #I MISS PLAYING KANSAS; AND THE 90'S #THE B1G AND ESPN DOESN'T LIKE US I don't mean to get so fired up as I go, but the pandemic is real; The problems are real; The world (and USA) is different. The future is important. And it's too late to suddenly wake up; You should be WOKE by now. Damn

I’m saying bullsh1t on this. Theres just no way they’d be doing a glorified survey monkey on a multi million dollar decision. This is ridiculous.

18% of total daily deaths isn't significant? Someone failed math.

I don't believe you. What you are saying has been debunked over and over again. Hospitals get no extra money from COVID deaths. 1400 deaths a day on top of what we already have is absolutely significant. Thats nearly heart disease level which is the deadliest disease in the US. Mortality rate is going down but anyone with a brain knew it wasn't 3.4%. Best estimate has been 0.5%-1% for awhile now and that is still the best estimate.

That's one for the out of context thread

Seriously, wtf am I reading? We just tried to see if we could still play some games; we definitely didn't complain and I don't understand how anything that Frost or Moos said would make us anybody's 'villains.' "Look at those ***holes at Nebraska..." lmao

Joining the Big 10 was a no-brainer. Ditching the BIg 10 is equally stupid. It's not just about football, or a single season that has screwed up everybody.

The passing has nothing to do with it. If the Doc's primary diagnosis is Covid then Medicare adds the 20%. You can't be treating a patient for X then go back after they died and say, actually we were treating them for Covid. If you are worried about this now, you should be worried about this all the time - not just with Covid. In a non covid world that Doc's could be lying about diagnosis just to game the system, but that s#!t would get stomped out pretty quickly. The system in place (covid or not) depends on the fact that doctors are doing what they can to accurately treat the patients - not trying to line the pockets of the hospitals.

And now we wait to see which players transfer out to play elsewhere.

Yes, Nebraska married up with the Big Ten. But conspiracy theories are so much more fun to talk about, especially when we have no football.

I think the year over year total of all deaths period is telling. Hard to say it was this cause or that to skew your view when you simply look at the total. 200k more deaths than last year, what's changed this year?

Actually, Deaths are on the rise. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ And.....

Where are you getting this information? Hospitals don't get money for dead people, they get money to care for patients who are alive. And even with the extra cash they are getting less than it costs to care for these patients.

Who is throwing someone’s life away or justifying a death from a senior citizen

Worst thread ever on HuskerBoard?

Can we talk more about rubbing

I'm sure they did present all of that. I do not doubt the confidence in protocols and safety measurements taken during the summer and future safety plans. The bottom line is this. We are not independent from a league (conference) so there must be a chain of command in place; A head boss who ultimately makes the hard decisions for the entire conference to adhere. Like it or not. And we can speculate different reason for the decisions and discuss it. But we must adhere to the rules and be unified with the conference that we signed up for; unless we decide to take action and leave the league..............just for some rogue football during a worldly health crisis/virus/pandemic. To me it doesn't make sense risking human lives to play ball for couch potato entertainment. And a majority of people have been keenly aware that there wasn't going to be football this year, since June. It shouldn't be such a shocker. It's time to accept what we knew and move on.

It's always amazing to me how people can just throw away someone else's life and justify their death just because their older or saving them requires you to experience the slightest of inconvenience.

I think it's safe to say that when Bohl got here his #1 priority was to create a culture and program similar to what was at Nebraska. He eventually succeeded in spades and we have kept that culture by hiring and promoting in house. It hasn't all been perfect and we have had some squabbles but winning makes that go away pretty quick. Do we have a better overall program, no probably not. But when you have 100 young men all pulling on the same side of the rope for a decade + you can win an assload of games which is what we have done. All good things come to an end as will our massive run of titles. For now though, Bison fans are enjoying the ride.

Nebraska at the B10 if the B12 plays and Nebraska doesn't.

Exactly. we all get it. Been wearing a mask and only leaving when necessary for 5 months. I care about those that suffered the ultimate demise. those that get it, get it. Some will be okay, others not. Some will die, others not. It’s bad and it sucks really bad. I know a few on both spectrums. It’s sad, not callous. but it’s here, and the ‘science’ says those under 25ish will not suffer the bad parts. If you are in a vulnerable place, stay home. If not, we have we must get things moving. Including football. Football isn’t an answer, but what will happen when we don’t is chaos and more detrimental than everyone doing nothing in society. not callous, but looking to 6-10 months from now it’ll be worse since we are now doing nothing (society/physically).

Who is “irrationally” fearful of this? people that are simply following the guidelines and wish others would?

Actually, they didn't provide any plan or data which was the criticism coming from Ohio State's coach. The SEC commissioner mocked the Big Ten by saying 'I can't wait to see the data the Big Ten used to reach their conclusion of canceling the season.' The Big Ten presented no plan when they canceled the fall season on Tuesday. It was a total failure in leadership from the commissioner's office. Please understand that I fully believe we'll accept our fate and stay in the conference. I am not suggesting we go independent. I would just like a transparent commissioner's office that can justify decisions with facts (data) versus deciding based on emotions or political pressures.

This Topic: I am not dead. He says he's not dead. Yes he is. I am not dead. See. He's very ill, he will be in a moment.

You still pay attention to deaths and positive tests? All the fake positives and deaths falsely claimed I just don’t really care what is “reported” anymore. The only thing I know for sure is no one on this board or in this country knows what the hell is actually going on. You only know what the latest fake facts your being fed. It’s really funny actually our country is inflating the bad news and other countries are deflating the bad news trying to claim they have it under control. Anyone actually believe Russia and China give honest data haha?