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Jim Harbaugh can suck a railroad spike. The POS wouldn't even give a post game interview, he was skipping off the field like a little b!^@h. Deception, yeah ok. Nevermind we got flagged on rules that had to be dusted off or invented on the spot, and he was awarded 2 touchdowns that had to be reviewed on one drive and another even though there was 0 time on the playclock, and they got a new set of downs for a pass interference where his receiver ran into our defender, and that they only got 3 up on us on a fumble that should've been blown dead seconds earlier. I coule probably keep going. But yeah Jim. Go ahead and complain more about your win you whiny dork.

Because when given his chances he whiffed on a protection, and didn't convert a 2nd and 2 because he went the wrong way. We ended up punting. Probably also doesn't end up with 105 yards receiving like Johnson did. Don't get me wrong, I would've liked to see more of him. But he's getting in his own way.

When damion Daniels got tackled, they threw that flag for holding. The lead ref over turned the flag and disguised it with a no foul for illegal formation. That’s my gut feeling.

I know Yant is popular on here, but his mistake is something that can really screw up the offense. If the rest of the players can't trust that he will be in the right spot, it can creates bad plays and turnovers. Also, Johnson played his a$$ off the last quarter and a half, and I don't think Yant was missed after his benching.

I'll take "Threads from 2004", Alex.

Iowa gets gifted 4 interceptions against Penn State - one of them inside the red zone - and only manages to put up 23 points on the board. Their play of the game was taking out PSU's QB; that was their only chance at winning that game, and they got it. Just to get ahead of it, our team is a perennial 5-7 dumpster fire...and with that out of the way I'll go ahead and say that this Iowa team may be the most overrated college football team of all time.

I think we are going to beat Minnesota just how we did Northwestern.

If we lose to Minnesota or Purdue, none of these close losses and progress we've shown will matter. We must beat them both.

Maybe he realized his job was in jeopardy. Decided to take a real hard look at areas we were lacking. I think it was Allen who was quoted by McGrath that Frost was a lot more focused and demanding on the guys..... I still need to remind myself he came here with 2 years as HC in the AAC....Throw in a relatively inexperienced staff I look at Ruud as ILB coach, where the successful teams in the B1G have rock star LB's....as an example of the learning curve they have faced. The covid year, missing 4 games equates to the players missing approx 12-15 practices per bowls.....Dude is learning on the fly in the deep end of the pool. I'm still concerned. Still hope he succeeds, but the margin of error gets smaller with each loss. Because he knows as well as we do, he was not brought here to lose in a respectable fashion, but win....

Your post makes the team sound like a total mess. They're not I've watched this team compete with some of the best in the country the past few weeks. We could still useote talent and depth at some spots, but we're a pretty damn good team right now......even with those deficiencies.

Some contend the biggest reason why Dems have lost support is that they aren't good at articulating what they stand for, compromise too quickly and easily, and trot out uncharismatic candidates precisely because they seem moderate. All Joe Biden was asked to do is not be Trump. The low bar gets a bit tiresome. It's not that the party leans too progressive. The problem is that Democrats handed the mantle of populism over to the Republicans. Biden, Hillary & Bill and Obama are the very definition of centrists, and could have run as Republicans for much of the 20th Century. Right now, everyone with a D is considered a Socialist by Republican fund raisers.. Republicans continue to win the messaging war. It's up to the American majority to find a candidate that fights for their values.

I get that, but we need two capable backs. Seems like our coaches have a horrible grip of the RB room. They finally found Rahmir who started as #4 on the depth chart, but can clearly be the guy who takes 50+% of the snaps at RB. Rahmir does a lot of things really well, but at 185lbs he's not a guy you can run consistently between the tackles in the B1G. Yant is young, and made mistakes - but it would behoove the coaching staff to continue to get him reps and confidence. We are gonna need more than Johnson. Guys like Adrian, Jurgy , Benhart, Turner, were given a chance to make mistakes and grow on the field. Seems like some guys are given leeway and some guys make one error and are put on a milk carton. Maybe it's just how Held runs his room.

We've heard you. Now say something original and new, or kindly bugger off.

I do not understand why you are being so defensive and condescending. You started this by correcting what I wrote. If you do not like my opinion just move on. There is no need to force your opinion on others or correct their posts.

https://sports.yahoo.com/jim-harbaugh-blasts-nebraska-alleges-121112627.html Wow tone deaf or just a douche? I choose both. The refs handed Michigan the game and this guy’s yapping away complaining.

Meh id rather not have coaches that covered up for sexual assaults.

Red zone offense is likely to improve as our offensive line does. I believe it's something Osborne told Frost, but he has said "get old and stay old". I don't think it can overstated that in year 4 we are competing with top 10 teams. Once can be a fluke. Three times is not. We still have issues, but it's still pretty cool that the national stage isn't too big for us.

In this fantasy can I be taller? I've also wondered what life would be like at say 6'4. That would sure be swell.

It's like issuing a citation for walking an unshod horse on a cobbled street after dark without a lantern bearer leading the way........Some straight up BS. Just like the dual possession. Looked like the UM player has a leg and a$$ cheek on the ball. Our guy had 2 hands....

I'd move Verduzco out. Frost to coach QB's (still unsure how much play calling he and Lubick split). Move up Bill Busch to ST's coordinator. He can help with our pass D as well. Did good coaching DB's while on staff here and ST's were solid under him. He can also recruit very well.....Easy move. Just a thought.

No way. The kid is a winner, not a doubt in my mind.. He had a game winning drive against MSU. His punt team made it so that it didn't end up being a game winning drive, but with 3 minutes left, he marched his team down the field and took the lead. Players who consistently lead game winning drives do so when they have consistent and high caliber team mates around them. I don't think for a second that he would falter at all if he had an o line that could give him more than 1.5 seconds in a randomly collapsing pocket or if he had tight ends and WR that were automatically where they needed to be on routes consistently. Only when the entire team functions like clockwork can you reliably expect the QB to go fetch a win. AM's biggest issue is that he covers up so well for these things for so much of the game that when the impossible odds finally catch up to him, it falls apart and people stand there and rake him over the coals for it. The fact that we are even in games with the o line that we have and the inconsistent WR's is a testament to his talents. The fact that it breaks down when we are overmatched and opponents finally pin their ears back with nothing to lose is not the sign of choking, its the sign of where we really are as a team. But we will get better. It's just not only Adrian out there responsible for it.

Jim should have been flagged and ejected for coming out on the field, really far and really often.

You're calling him a choke artist. Pretty disrespectful.

So is Trev going to bring this up to the B1G offices? Or work to get a narrative going about this game? Seems like the only reason Harbaugh said something is because he knew the officiating was s***tacular in his favor and he wanted to get out in front of the eventual proof that the officiating crew had their head up their arse and were fans of Michigan's...literally.

Do y'all remember how much crap Frost took when he mentioned Iowa's clapping? Harbaugh is a clown, but when you win you can get away with it.

Granted Northwestern was BAD, but Yant looked better than any of our other backs and it's not even close. Why only 4 carries Saturday night? Johnson seems to me, a back who can catch a pass out of the backfield once in awhile or you utilize his speed for trick/gimmick plays. If you want to pound the rock against teams line up Yant and give him the carries. Eventually Yant will wear teams down and move the chains. Johnson is not that back and never will be given his size.

I just posted this in the 'What did we learn' thread, but to me what happened in this game is that our defense just got beaten by their TE delay in the second half. And I don't want to be a little b**** and whine about reffing but they also basically got gifted a touchdown late in the 2nd quarter. Blaming Martinez for this loss is just not an intelligent take at all. No team has put up more than 17 points on Michigan this year. And how many of them will put up more than 29 down the back half of the season? I will also say that Frost & Lubick maybe should have opened up the playbook a bit earlier when the game plan went a bit stagnant after the first drive. But holy crap, how awesome was that first counter bubble screen?!?!

was there a replay or did anyone see the penalty on Jurgens? I don't recall them showing it while watching the game on TV. Also 66 for Mich is a holding son of gun. Believe it was him who tackled Daniels and then on one of Mich bigger plays he was riding on the back of one of our defenders.

I can honestly say that all of this has made me really hate Michigan. let’s be honest….we we’re screwed

Yep. Can’t go backwards after cleaning up much of the mistakes. And we better be leading by two scores with 3 minutes left!

That was a one week aberration- that's why it's big news. The special teams problems at NU statistically have been a dumpster fire for 4 years- don't take my word for it- Chatlains article documented it. This week they were pretty solid, like last. Maybe force feeding the issue is having a possible effect= something changed to make it better. It isn't luck to be consistently bad for 4 years. It isn't luck to be consistently good at Special teams either. It's a coaching issue- but that doesnt fit your narrative. https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/chatelain-how-can-nebraska-improve-its-special-teams-ask-bill-snyder-and-frank-beamer/article_282a413a-218c-11ec-ad78-bf1cc4f2e94a.html

Yant's first carry also only went for 2 yards when he tried to juke 2 defenders instead of putting his head down and pushing the pile for 2 more yards. He did have a nice catch and run which was nullified by penalty on the next play, but Yant's inconsistency is why he didn't play more against Michigan. Rahmir is the better all-around back right now, and NU went with a back who could be used in the run and pass game against Michigan. Hopefully Yant can clean up his mistakes and be more consistent going forward.

It also sucks for us because both Michigan State and Iowa have done the same thing to us in recent years and never gotten called for it.

So what's the answer. That's what I keep asking. Red zone O we are horrific at best (well up to 84th now). Out of 869 coaches Frost is 844th in coaches losing one score games (10 game minimum). And the 5-16 record (0-4) this season has occurred with Riley's guys, Frost's guys, new culture, old culture everything....The little things are killing us. We are just being killed by "less". Are we improving? Absolutely. But to date, it's only in the way we lose.....I'm optimistic that we "should" beat Purdue and Minnie based on prior performance against what is now 3 top 10 teams.....We continue to play like this, I would think we should get to 6 wins. Unfortunately, we have 2 more top 10 teams. and Iowa possibly #2.... TBH, I am leaning that it is less on Frost and more on his offensive staff. You and I go back and forth....No worries. But other than time what are things Frost and Co can do. This week to get ready for the rest of the schedule. And again to my thoughts on being less on Frost, he has worked with ST and OL and both are improved....

That’s fine, but do we really need a new D line coach? These kinds of ideas are great on a message board, but are we going to change that chemistry for probably one year then he heads off somewhere else?

I rewatched the game today….as painful as it was. The thought I had was that this team plays like a mid to late 80s team. Very good team. Good talent. Great attitude. Competitive coach. But, when we went against a top 10 team, we were just short. problem is, we play so dang many this year. I love this team. I love the players just like back then. (Even though I was in a college drunken haze). Dang it….they just need to win.

I won't argue against Adrian having some backbreaking mistakes or failures at the worst times in his career. But, I do think it is somewhat overblown. I think there are two bigger factors at play than the "Adrian isn't clutch" factor. The first is just a matter of narrative and perspective - Adrian has had plenty of comebacks and drives to either take the lead or tie late in the game, only to have special teams or defense not get the needed stop. The second is that I think Frost's 2 minute offense and overtime offense scheming is a much, much bigger culprit than Adrian. I don't think I've ever seen our playcalling put him in a great position for success in the last 2 minutes or OT of his career here. I've gone back and looked at all the close games he's played in. Just a cursory glance not super in depth: 2018 Colorado - Adrian gets us the lead on a 57 yard touchdown to Spielman. Defense gives up a late third quarter score and a late fourth quarter score to CU, and Adrian gets hurt. Northwestern - Adrian gets us a two score lead in the fourth, as well as a 2 point conversion. NW scores, 7 point game, we get a FG, 10 point game. They go 62 yards for a field goal, we can't get a first down running up the gut, then they go 99 yards to tie and send it to overtime. Throws a pick, NW wins on a FG. Ohio State - Down 9 in the fourth, Adrian gets us a field goal on a 65 yard drive to get within 6, OSU scores again, Adrian orchestrates a 75 yard drive and touchdown to get within 5, OSU gets a first down and runs out the clock. Michigan State - We get three drives resulting in field goals in the last 11 minutes to take the lead, and the defense does its job against one of the worst offenses in history. Iowa - Down 15 in the 4th, Adrian orchestrates a 98 yard drive and an 80 yard drive, and a 2-Pt conversion, to get us tied with 3:22 left. Iowa drives down the field and wins as time expires. 2019 Colorado - Up 17-0 at half, our defense can't stop Colorado from coming back. Two 75 yard drives in the 4th quarter kept extending our lead, and CU kept scoring to match. Our OT possession went Maurice for no gain, Maurice for one yard, Adrian sacked, missed field goal. CU wins. Illinois - 75 yard drive for a touchdown with 8 minutes left in the 4th to take the lead by 4, then another 70 yard drive to take a touchdown lead but we miss the field goal. Defense holds up, forcing a turnover on downs, we run out the clock. Northwestern - Get the ball tied with one minute left, drive 42 yards to kick the game winning field goal as time expires. Purdue - 75 yard touchdown drive early in the 4th to go up 3, Purdue goes up 4, then a 71 yard touchdown drive to go up 3 again with 2:29 left, defense can't hold and Purdue scores a touchdown with one minute left. Our final drive went incomplete pass, incomplete pass, pass for 7 yards, incomplete pass broken up turnover on downs. Iowa - Down 14 in the second half, score two touchdowns on 60 yard drives in the 3rd. 8 punts later, Iowa drives down for a game winning field goal with :01 left. 2020 Northwestern - Our offense did nothing all second half. Iowa - Offense couldn't do anything for the last 25 minutes, Adrian gets sacked and fumbled with 1:18 to play down by 6. Minnesota - Minn goes up 10 at the end of the 3rd after an Adrian fumble, we come back and get a field goal to get within 7, but Michigan runs out the last 5 minutes. Rutgers - 90 yard and 96 yard drives in the 3rd to tie, then a 92 yard drive at 9:55 left in the 4th to take the lead. Defense gets an interception, offense bleeds out the last 7:26 of game clock

I am not trying to put the kid down, and I started by saying this is a great kid, great ambassador off the field, great athlete and puts up great stats. I am saying what I have seen...and so have you, but you call it something else. No perfect QB exists I suppose. But, I have seen kids with less talent, ability and stats win games, and want the ball in critical situations because they "know" they can finish. I don't think that's Adrian.

Man I hope they did because that was funny and it was ridiculous. The couple of times that they had players go down with actual injuries we were silent and clapped when they started to move off the field. It was only the constant flops that got booed. I have seen plenty of complaints on this board about certain teams players flopping as well so I know you are all smart enough to know it happens.

What Glenn Greenwald has a huge issue with - the libruls are canceling Eric Clapton!!!!!!!!!!! What Glenn Greenwald has no issue with - Eric Clapton is an anti-vaxxer and he's bankrolling other anti-vaxx morons to the detriment of society. One of these actions can get people killed. The other is a culture war distraction. Focus a bit.

It's been discussed ad nauseam. He knows he f#&%ed up, and takes responsibility. Adrian gives us the best chance of winning even with his turnovers. He's balled out this year and made mistakes, but he's also kept us in every game against top 10 opppnents. Smoother while competent is not ready to take over the team this year and be at Adrian's level. We are ride or die with Adrian this season. End of story. These guys are college athletes, not NFL players. Show a little more respect.

https://saturdaytradition.com/minnesota-football/minnesota-now-without-top-two-rbs-for-remainder-of-2021-season-p-j-fleck-says/?fbclid=IwAR29z5dnevNlhxkbM7JklRFxleNAaLxpAVETX7KUhu2hkitYjnz2X02Gnn4 Both of Minnys 2 top backs out Of course last year they beat us missing 20 plus players, so maybe something we should not get encouraged about.

Illinois is really a crazy-bad outlier at this point. Easily the worst game we've played this year. If we just don't lay an egg there, being 4-3 with three one-score losses to undefeated Top 10 teams, we are a really good team that's played a really tough schedule.

And it is close right, if he initially would’ve given him a first down, I wouldn’t have argued it. But it’s the fact that his judgement saw it was short by half a yard and he starts moving it up not once, but twice, and it’s on their sideline. Some people are arguing about this with me on Reddit lol but if you apply this same situation near the goal line, that’s the difference in someone scoring or not. And that’s fixing the game. Every play is reviewed so it’s not like the line judge can’t be helped out if they made a bad call.

OR maybe some people come here and just make stuff up.....

It's easy to be creative and open up an offense when you can overmatch the opponent like Northwestern. Against Michigan, if Frost tries to do take risks too early in the game with his play calling it could backfire and those more creative plays don't score points, or even worse they cause turnovers. The first half was going ok for the most part with NU only down 6-0 with 3 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. It should have been only 9-0, but there was the phantom pass interference call on Domann, and a missed delay of game penalty. Frost was going conservative, as Michigan was doing the same. It was a game of chess, and both teams opened it up more in the 2nd half. I don't think the D tired out because of being on the field too much, I think the D tired out because Michigan's Offense is pretty big and strong.

What has he shown in the last half decade that proves we can trust him in those moments? Serious question. Like, what's your top 3 Adrian Martinez game-winning drives? I can name you 3 game-losing blunders from this season alone. And spare me with the pearl clutching. He's a 22 year old professional athlete for f#&%'s sake.