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  1. 2 minutes ago, huskerfan74 said:

    Basically Ibrahim win the game and beat our entire pathetic excuse of a football team...let us now listen to golden BS from our head coach in yet another depressing presser. I am not going to watch the presser as I already know the BS 

    I'm sure we will hear all about how "close" we are to breaking through.  After all 12 one-score losses the last three seasons.  Maybe, if they can pull that off next week they can tie North Carolina at 13!  Woo-Hoo!

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  2. 18 hours ago, skersfan said:

    Yea and that dickweed isn't going to worry about it for a second.  We just finalized on property in Southwest Utah.  Start building at thaw.  Anything to get out of this suck hole state.  Locked down since the start and no evidence it has done a bit 

    **deleted because right wing talking points are fine to talk about on this thread, but jokes are not**

     

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  3. 12 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

    They would easily beat the Ragin Cajuns in a rematch. 

    If I understand correctly, the logic is:

     

    ISU would beat Louisiana in a rematch, thus ignore the early loss.  However, pay attention to ISU's wins, as without a doubt they have no chance of losing those games in rematch.

     

    While I respect that teams do improve/decline during the season, all we go can by is when they played.  When they played Louisiana, they lost.  Not only that, they lost twice.  Would they hammer the other team that beat them this season if they had a rematch?

     

    ISU lost _two_ games.  In a season with less than the standard 12.  To me that is a fatal flaw as far as making the playoff.

     

    If instead, you want to make the playoff be 8 teams, with each P5 champion guaranteed a slot, then if they win the Big XII title game, they are in.  But putting them in the top 4 in a very chaotic beauty contest?  No, I don't think they deserve that. If they only had one loss, I think the argument would be stronger, but still, losing to a Sun Belt team? 

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  4. hunter49,

     

    Like most on here, I've found the Red Zone offense to really suck most of the time.  However, yesterday they scored all 6 times in the red zone (20 yard in), 4 of them being TDs.  Yeah, you'd like at least one of the FGs to have been a TD, but for a team that has struggled, I'd say a 100% scoring and 67% TD rate is not sucking, but instead is improvement toward competence.  Now can they sustain that?  Recent history says no, but maybe something started to click.

     

    They had a couple of other drives stall right outside the red zone, one where Culp hit the 49 yard FG, the other one on downs when they were trying to close out the game.

     

    Is it perfection?  Of course not.  But, I think it is an improvement over recent history.  How long has it been since Nebraska scored 4 red zone TDs in one game?

     

    As far as the non-scoring drives - that was not good.  They had 3 three-and-outs, not counting the game ending kneel down series.  The 3 three-and-outs occurred over a stretch of 4 possessions (which included, ironically, what was probably their best drive of the game at the start of the 3rd Quarter).  At least they didn't have the 3 three-an-outs in a row, but they have to get better at having at least productive field flipping drives. On those three drives they gave Purdue a shorter field, and Purdue scored 10 pts.  The defense did a good job on the other series, and stopped Purdue on downs.  What sucked is right after the defense does this the offense has a terrible series, gets the punt blocked and ends up giving Purdue the ball in FG range.  The defense at least stopped the TD, but that was a horrible sequence for the offense.

     

    Edit: So it looks like they scored 5 red zone TDs last year against Illinois.  Much more recently than I remember, but it certainly hasn't been much the last few years where they get 4+ red zone TDs.

     

    Granted if you can score them from 30, 40, 50 yards out that is fine, but something about grinding down a team and just overwhelming them inside the 20 really seems to break an opponent.

  5. I wasn't thinking Frost gave up play calling duties, but it looked like he was maybe making some adjustments - whether that was due to Frost getting more creative, more useful input from Lubick, better execution from the offense (particularly Martinez), or some combination, I'm not sure.

     

    Purdue is a bad team.  But, it was good that Nebraska managed to get a lead, not completely squander it, and close out the win without it going down to the final play.    In the world of crawl-walk-run this was at least a "speedy" crawl, with moments of walking.  Coupled with a decent effort against Iowa the week before, there are signs of the team starting to come together.  Certainly not something I was expecting to see after the Illinois fiasco.

     

    It looked like they were going to find a way to lose after the 90 yard TD, but they did a good job of coming out, maintaining their composure, and finishing off the game.  That is something they haven't done on a regular basis for a long time.

     

    Of course, over the last several years whenever we think they've started to figure it out, it seems like they go out and are completely embarrassed the next game. Hopefully the Minnesota game will be the start of breaking that up.   Minnesota is another pretty mediocre team, so it is certainly doable.

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    If they break away, who would the sec play to pad their wins? Kansas can only play 12 games and they do have a conference slate to play.

    If this initial plan was actually put in place, my understanding is that the G5 and other FBS conferences would come along, thus allowing the SEC to still play teams from places like the Sunbelt conference, which would at least be an increase over most of their current 4th OOC game choices.  The initial proposal is to only separate what used to be called Div 1-A (now FBS) from Div 1-AA (now FCS).    Thus we would no longer  have North Dakota State vs Minnesota type matchups.  The Big Ten could still hammer <MAC team of choice> if they wanted to.

     

    However, such a separation would very likely lead eventually to a P5 split from the rest of FBS, in which case, Kansas becomes everyone's favorite OOC game.

     

    I think to some extent this separation has started with other conferences - doesn't the Big Ten ask that their members avoid scheduling FCS teams if at all possible (like what Nebraska had to do with Bethune-Cookman after the Akron cancellation). 

     

    Here is how I understand the hierarchy:

     

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    Note that the recommendation is football only.  We will still have the entire population of basketball teams (from ~34 Div I conferences) participating in March Madness.  This would be pretty much the same teams as Div I football today, plus conferences like the Big East, which don't play football anymore, just basketball.

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  7. Yup - that is why they probably want to let P5 goes its own way and don't care that the rest (G5 plus remaining minor FBS conferences).  They offload the expense of doing all the enforcement onto another org.

     

    I've heard some congressional rumblings in the past from non-P5 states if the P5 decides to try and strike out on their own - conduct a P5 only championship, no mixing with non-P5, etc., if the money would be bigger.  The non-P5s I've heard talk about it were making some kind of restraint of trade type of argument, since they wouldn't be part of it.  Sort of the initial things they said that resulted in the agreement that the highest ranked G5 team would get a New Year's Day Bowl game (like UCF did when Frost was there, or Utah when Urban Meyer was there).

     

    I think a separation of P5 from the rest is also going to happen eventually, particularly if after we see how bad the pandemic has been on the non-P5 programs around the country. 

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  8. Not sure if I should have put this on the "Other Sports" board, mods please move it makes more sense there.  I put it on the Husker Football part, since this would involve Nebraska football.

     

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2020/12/03/knight-commission-ncaa-football-bowl-subdivision-split/3811200001/

     

    Many people have talked about this happening for quite awhile (although even more fractured - just the P5 teams going their own way). 

     

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    An influential leadership group has proposed sweeping changes to the Division I model that would distinguish the Football Bowl Subdivision from the NCAA, transforming the highest level of competition in the sport into a separate entity responsible for its own governance and revenue distribution.

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    The NCFA would conduct all FBS operations and the national championship while managing issues related to eligibility, rule changes and enforcement, regulatory functions, athlete safety, and revenue disbursement.

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    In the Knight Commission proposal, members of the NCFA would remain members of the NCAA in all other sports. The NCAA would continue to operate the Football Championship Subdivision, which generates far less revenue than FBS competition, and the men's basketball tournament would remain under the current structure.

    Probably there is an inevitability of some kind of change with the rules about college players getting marketing money, which will primarily affect football players and basketball players.   Interesting that they did not recommend pulling men's basketball, but that is probably due to the fact that March Madness is the NCAA's crown jewel.

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  9. "So, Iowa, you don't know how to put away a bad opponent and have to kick field goals instead of scoring TDs?  Well, we are Nebraska, we will show you how to properly melt down.  That's what we do.  Adjust to that!"

     

    "Oh, and its all on the players for the mistakes" - Frost 

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  10. Well, only being 1 play away is a miracle at this point.  Maybe Wandale can make a big play. Pretty sad when that feels like the only hope.  

     

    Iowa seems to have been trying to emulate the Frost red zone offense.  If they actually execute, this game would already be over.   

  11. Just now, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

    Am I the only one here who's not the least bit surprised? Sad that I've actually come to expect this.

    This team is mentally bad in EVERY game.  They only win when the other team manages to play terrible.  Otherwise all they have to do is wait for Nebraska to choke. 

  12. 15 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

     

     

    Just skimming, the rate of cases is higher in the places that had mask mandates, but the rate has increased faster in recent months in places without mask mandates. What is the population density comparison between the 2? I also wonder how many of the places that did not opt out of the mask mandate made that decision because their case rates were higher. (i.e. the high case rate led to wearing masks).

     

     

    Yes:

     

    Rate has increased much faster in non-mask locations vs mask locations since July when mandate went into effect

     

    I didn't look at pop density, but the 24 mandate counties are 67% of the population.

    Assuming similar sized counties that would be 67% of the people in ~20% of the space.  I should look at area of each county and add it up to get the real value.

     

    I agree, the places that kept the mandate were seeing the reality - that they were struggling.  Sadly in other states (e.g., the Dakotas) there has been no recognition of this reality.

  13. 12 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

    Before I start, I always wear a mask indoors when at a public place and currently don’t eat inside restaurants.  Stating that so people don’t think I am anti-mask, anti-science.  
     

    I find it interesting that the non-mandated counties have roughly 30% less prevalence than the mask mandated counties.  Now that data is back from August and things have definitely changed so it’s quite possible those non mask mandated counties have caught and surpassed the other counties.   Good case study for everyone to keep following. 
     

    On the Sweden thing, most of the people I heard from didn’t say anything about Sweden and masks wearing, it was more Sweden and keeping the economy open as much as possible. 
     

    hopefully people can hunker down as much as possible for the next three months, government can get economic money into the system, and we can all open up fully late spring.  

     

     

    Lockdowns are problematic.  I think short term lockdowns (on the order of two weeks or so) were probably an effective idea early in the process to slow down rate of spread (e.g., when New York's hospitals were being overwhelmed).

     

    However there is a difference between total lockdown and restrictions - e.g., no indoor dining vs "everyone stays at home and only allowable trips are to the grocery store, etc.".  I tire of the extremist response among many that "masks = total lockdown = communist state" that is sent out by many on the anti-mask side. (see the anti maskers that had planned to shop at HyVee a couple weeks ago)

     

    The irony is that masking is used to PREVENT total lockdowns.  I agree we cannot sustain a total lockdown (as in one where no one goes anywhere, with the exception of designated people that deliver food/necessary prescriptions to everyone's door - that would be total lockdown).

     

    I think the fact the non-mask counties started with approximately the same positive rate (4 to 3) then didn't increase as much (up to 6 instead of up to 17) prior to the mask mandate counties mandating things is primarily due to population density.  The 24 counties that installed mandates represent ~2/3 of the population.  Thus population density is much lower in the other 81 counties - leading to what I'd call "natural social distancing".  There is a reason the very rural ranching counties of Nebraska filled in last with positive cases and deaths (several Nebraska counties still don't have any deaths due to COVID).

     

    However, once it starts to reach a certain point, then the limited close contacts outside your normal bubble (e.g., the rancher goes to town to get some supplies) starts to increase the rate and we end up with them still increasing slightly from June to July, then increasing at a higher rate from July to August (when they went from 6 to 12 - doubling the number).  This is a core of exponential growth.  It is altered somewhat by being exponential growth separated by "islands".

     

    Of course, this type of behavior was pretty much predicted by all medical experts I heard during the April/May/June time frame - that it wasn't in rural areas yet, but unless they were vigilant it would be and it would possibly be worse, since they don't have the resources to handle it as well as the large cities.

     

    To me what it shows is that pure social distancing without any other protection works well - sort of a duh thing that has been used since some of the small pox and typhoid outbreaks in the old West.  However, if you don't also augment, with things like masks and have any interactions, eventually it will spread to even sparsely populated rural areas.

     

    When the data cuts off, the rural counties were still increasing, while the populated counties had started to decrease (at least until Labor Day hit and people repeated the same errors from Memorial Day and 4th of July).  I think it is interesting that the 24 counties reduced their rate despite the 4th of July holiday while the 81 counties doubled over the same period.  We can't be sure it is entirely seeded by close 4th of July social gatherings, but it would be interesting to overlay holidays with surges over the next month - when the initial exposure occurs and the next month when 2nd or 3rd generation exposures (from that holiday) are happening.

     

    I was interested in seeing how the cases had evolved across the Nebraska and some of its neighbors - South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Iowa.  I live in San Diego, so thought it would be interesting to do a direct comparison to San Diego - since population scale factor is not as steep (as comparing to all of California).  San Diego County is large (4200 sq mi), but minuscule compared with the states mentioned above.  It also has a larger population than any of those states.

     

    Since mid-March, San Diego has had a mask mandate.  It has also had a couple of lockdowns and closed indoor dining for most of the spring/summer, with a brief opening in the last couple months, but now back to being closed.  Also, a curfew was just put into place from 10 pm to 5 am.  I'm sure all the anti-maskers are lining up to make their "communist state" arguments, but lets look at the data.

     

    I used the worldometer site and looked at 7 day averages on 4 dates separated out over the past several months - May 20, July 20, September 20, and November 20.  I took the San Diego data from the county COVID website, which is linked from the worldometer website.

     

    I then calculated each 7 day average vs 1 M people (standard normalization done with most sites) to see what has gone on in each state (and in San Diego County).

     

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    So, we see that San Diego, which has had the strictest restrictions has undergone a growth since 2 weeks after Labor Day (which is when things started increasing all around the country), however its growth rate has been much slower.

     

    Again looks like masks help slow the spread, along with limited restrictions - e.g., no indoor dining, no bars, etc.

     

    I realize it sucks for bars and restaurants that can't easily switch to take out mode, but what is the alternative?  Fill the hospitals, I guess.

     

    Again, this plot is my pull of data from worldometer and not a full research analysis.  However, I think it does at least indicate that masks + some shutdown/restrictions is effective.

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  14. 4 minutes ago, chamrocck said:

    It’s one thing to have a young improving team that is not going to win them all.  But damn this crap is bad,  Frost needs to get it together.  We have no receivers.  But a receiver is playing QB?  We have a stable full of RB’s but no offensive game plan for them whatsoever?  A center that still can’t snap the ball.  A secondary that is not built to play man defense but pays man sucky defense anyway.  Slow LBs with poor angles.  Secondary that leads with head and shoulder tap tackles.  I like the DL some but no pressure is going to make crap Illinois QB’s look like Heisman contenders.  Hey, the punter is good.  At least there’s that.

    Had Penn State not managed to find a way suck more last week, Nebraska would have ended this season 0-fer.  This team is getting worse each game and basically only wins because the other team manages to play even worse.  Even then, sometimes Nebraska still loses.

     

    Everyone thought the defense had turned a corner - but they still gave up 500 yards.  To an (at the time) 0-3 team.  Basically , they managed a couple of decent stops in the red zone at the end of the game.  That's it.  Considering PSU's problems this year, I'm not sure you can consider your defense as turning the corner when you beat a team that is reeling more than you (pre season top 10).  I guess all Nebraska needs is an opponent each week that is having a disappointing season, collapsing from the top 10 to 0-fer.  Then the masterful Frost preparation will really rack up the victories.

     

    This season could almost kill the program.  I know everyone says "covid - season doesn't matter", but if you are a recruit with any other options, do you really want to sign on for this?  Going 1-7 (assuming they play the crossover game) and getting humiliated in most of them is really going to destroy recruiting.  At this point, the best scenario for the team may be complete COVID shutdown, then spend the spring doing a lot of soul searching.

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  15. 2 minutes ago, HuskerMan said:

    Manhandled by Illinois.  Seems like every team we play almost always has their best game of the season and look like National Champs.  There better be some MAJOR changes across the board coming after this season by Frost otherwise I say we fire Frost also.  This experiment is over and a huge failure at this point.

    Frost's only coaching success was in a conference that plays sandlot football.  He hasn't shown so far that he has any clue how to build a physical team that plays smart.  It's all just "loosy-goosy" all the time.

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