24 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

 

Lmao 

50 minutes ago, commando said:

what russian navy doing?

 

 

Secret Russian swim lessons. 

54 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Is it just me, or has the narrative slowly shifted to acknowledge that Israeli actions in Gaza have gone well beyond targeted reprisals and need to be curtailed? I see both media and politicians saying things they wouldn't have four months ago.  

Seems that between Ukraine, the border, mega inflation, & out of control housing Americans just don’t care for another taxpayer funded war when most are having hard times making ends meet. 
 

EDIT: I see that you said media & politicians not civilians 

35 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I really don't ever eat fast food, unless it's something like Runza's salads.

 

After you don't eat fast food for a while, then try it again, you realize just how horrible it all is.

For the price it takes to feed me at a fast food joint I could get a sit down burger and fries. I would rather go out once a week and have a nice meal then eat out 2-3 times at a fast food joint as well. 

24 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

IDK man, it’s kind of nice knowing where all the worst employees are going to be. Without fast food places those people could end up in jobs anywhere.

 

Yeah, I’ve been screwed over in too many drive thrus.

I’ve been known to eat a few McDonald’s breakfasts in my day. But now I can usually count on one hand how many times I eat fast food a year. 
 

I just wanna get swole 

Fast food in general sucks now and is not longer a value. If all fast food joints went out of business it would greatly benefit this country 

20 minutes ago, Fru said:

Not as a coach, but…

 

 

Welcome CO-CO-OC Brian Ferentz. 

44 minutes ago, commando said:

 

Also a kinda..well duh moment lol 

Uhhh…yeah. Duh? It’s the CIA lol. 

50 minutes ago, Gage County said:

Well, that sucks.

Forbes: Ukraine Has Lost Its First M-1 Abrams Tank—Likely To A Russian Drone

Equipment gets destroyed. 

In his free time Teach likes to collect, handle, & shoot guns while watching Russian propaganda. Also likes to talk about how much he hates the Poles. This is totally real not fake!!

War crimes? More like war suggestions 

-Japan, Russia, USA

24 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Anyone scared of ussia is nuts.  They are a nothing country.

Their technology isn’t as advertised but they are willing to both kill and be killed. 

8 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

It’s really weird to me that we refer to dictators as strong men when they are the literal opposite of that. 

 

They are so weak they can’t allow people with opinions to live, and they have minions doing all the dirty work for them. They are the epitome of what it is to be a weak man.

1000%. This is why they promote yes men instead of great men. 

5 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

It's going to cost us more in the long run if Russia marches all the way to the Polish border.  It's myopic to believe it won't.  I guess if we bail out of NATO and green light Putin to continue on, in the short term it won't.  What an economic disaster that would be though.  

 

Look at that chart again.  The European countries are paying more of their share than we are.  Hopefully they'll also ramp up beyond what they are already doing.  Putin's expansionist threat should have woken the entirety of Europe now.  

 

Let's say Ukraine can't retake all the territory Russia has pillaged from them. (That's not a given. We fought a war and won against all odds ourselves).  Wouldn't supporting Ukraine enough so that they can harden their defenses to a point where Putin doesn't take the whole of the country be a better option than completely bailing out?  I think we're forgetting the mass genocide and the humanitarian crises that will ensue if he does.  I've see estimates of upwards of 20 million Ukrainians will flee the country.  What a disaster.  That's a destabilizing event for Europe.  A destabilized Europe destabilizes the entire world.  We've seen that before. 

 

None of that even addresses our loss of credibility internationally.  Let's not forget the Budapest memorandum.  We guaranteed Ukraine's security if they gave up their nukes. They did.  Now we're going back on our word.  Good luck making agreements internationally now.  There will come a day when we need to use our credibility in negotiations but soon there won't be any left.

 

This is absolutely in our national security interests.  National security unfortunately isn't free.  How did our isolationism go in the lead up to WWII?

 

I get the national debt is serious.  But not funding Ukraine isn't going touch that. In fact, not doing so will ultimately exasperate the problem in more ways than one.

Surrounding countries should indeed be paying more. Just like they should’ve been fully funding NATO before this and became weak, degraded militaries (not all of them I know).  Instead they let the USA do their funding into NATO. Ukraine has a 0.00% chance of reclaiming their former territory. They’ve lost too many men, supplies, & equipment will not and cannot come in enough quantity to match their goals. Their counter offensive failed. The only hope they have of winning is to outlast the Russians with a much higher kill ratio and bleed them. They are still going to lose more land. This will come to the negotiating table and Russia will take (well continue to take) Crimea, Donetsk, & other potential regions. 

Honestly I think the older signing day date is better. 

15 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

 

Good.  Send more.  What's your tax break going to be if we send zero?  What's it going to cost us in the long run to bail out on our allies?   You do realize that GDP is measured over a set period of time right?  So if you're going to say we already sent more than $61 billion you're going to have to also say our GDP has also increased.  That's how they come to a percentage of GDP.

Racking up massive debt is going to come for us all. It’s about becoming a more fiscally responsible nation and policy across the board. Cutting out large swaths of funding from the federal sector. Obviously by my statements I think this is a larger threat to us than Russia. 
 

again, given their location to Russia those countries should be paying a lot more. 

4 minutes ago, teachercd said:

If we want to END this war with a Ukraine victory, I am all for it.  But I don't know if that is the plan, is it?

 

Because if it is then we need to send more than just money and equipment.  

 

Eventually it gets to the point where we either have to be "all in" or "all out"

 

I am totally fine with being all in if it means we get rid of those commies and ussia is all but gone as we know it.  I just don't think that is the goal though.

You’re correct they would be gone. But so would most of the earth after a an armed conflict between the USA & Russia. 

11 hours ago, Scarlet said:

If we don't support Ukraine and allow Russia to waltz through Ukraine how much of a tax break are we going to see?  

 

 

Except we haven’t sent them just 61 billion. And we are also sending money to other countries defense as well. 

10 hours ago, commando said:

they crowd funded a black hawk for Ukraine  

 

https://theaviationist.com/2023/04/19/ukrainian-black-hawk-seen-in-action/#google_vignette

 

The GUR (one of the acronyms of the agency) says that both pilots and troops agree that the Black Hawk is significantly ahead of the Mi-8 Hip and Mi-24 Hind in almost all characteristics, and that they are impressed by its reliability, ease of use and combat survival capability. They mention that the helicopter is way more maneuverable and also faster than the Mi-8, with the capability to fly long missions over three hours or 600 km.

1 Blackhawk is useless. Just as 32 tanks from the USA are useless even with them being higher quality than T-62 & T-72s. For Ukraine to win they will need thousands upon thousands of tanks, artillery, planes, etc. probably in the trillions monetary wise. This is why they will never win. It’s just enough to bleed the Russians. 

2 hours ago, teachercd said:

Hahaha!

 

Right??

 

Some of them are even so good at hiding how crazy they are that you think they are right!

 

Like, I have known smokeshow girls that rip on their ex non-stop and they are so hot and convincing that I believe them.  Then later on you find out that they are in fact, insane.

That’s why I just lie to them

26 minutes ago, commando said:

i will put you down as a nikki voter

Why do you hate me, Commando?

10 hours ago, Crusader Husker said:

The real question is why can't we get a hot leader instead of two grumpy old men fighting to be our prsident.

Best we can do is Hillary Clinton sorry 

8 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Isn't this the Russian thread??

 

Gulag for you comrade 

4 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Just think if we jabbed each immigrant with roids instead of a covid shot!

We could be a yoked nation!!!

I am proposing a new immigration policy: everyone in minus if you do CrossFit.