Redux

And we can't legalize weed in all 50 states...

Is D.A R.E. cool with this?

I did, but warm washrag seemed to take care of it.

You don't? No wonder you're such a buzzkill

So if we gave people new "safe smoking kits"......would that exempt them from being arrested on paraphernalia and or drug charges? Asking for a friend.

This sounds insane on paper I'm all for prevention......but I'm a bit gobsmacked by this not being a BabylonBee article

Kinda like offering the homeless Makers Mark so they don't have to huff feces

Why don't you have a sense of humor

Free crack pipes AND syringes???????? WTF. Did drugs win the war on drugs and nobody told us???

I'm not going to get into an argument about possible covid treatments or vaccines. I'm pretty sure you haven't listened to most of his discussions about these things, and I know I haven't heard them all, so this would be pointless. So I'll assume you're assuming and leave it at that. It was wrong, therefore he admitted it was wrong. It was the right thing to do. And he probably saw it coming, he's not as dumb as he pretends to be. As to the bolded, it sounds a lot like what Ulty was implying. Literally everyone makes mistakes, bad decisions, poor judgment etc. Rogan just has a massive audience, so he can actually be canceled. And I'm sorry but you seem to be looking at it backwards to how I am. I am looking at this as WHY is he being canceled and it stems from unpopular opinion sharing, not old insensitive slur usage. He said things people don't agree with, so people dug up racist looking s#!t. That's the why. That doesn't make him innocent, but sharing unpopular opinions and ideas shouldn't turn into racism, as it does too often because it's an easy thing to point to to get someone silenced.

Free.......crack pipes? Am....am I hearing this right?

I mean, if you don't want someone to slightly disagree with something you say I guess don't post it? But I'm one of the last people that should say that. I think what you're saying is painting with a pretty broad brush. In the case of Rogan, he's the type of person we need more of in terms of acceptance and willingness to understand. Most everything he says and does comes from a place of care. There are few celebrities you can listen to speak and feel like they are genuine. Sure, there are people who are just mad about cancel culture. And that's a completely legitimate gripe considering that at it's core, this is a witch hunt with the intent to shut someone up. But Rogan has owned up to everything he has said in the past and he's going about his business trying to move on from it. He asked Spotify to take down episodes, not the other way around. And to their credit, they aren't overreacting to this. So far, this has been a positive step towards actually dealing with things like this. Again, sure there are people who just want to defend Rogan and there are people who just want to defend free speech. But there are also a ton of people who don't care about the context, what was said or the truth about any other controversial thing concerning Rogan who just want him gone and they have no clue who he is or what he does.

I agree with most of the rest of the post, can you expand on this?

I'd argue the public perception of someone who uses the word today is vastly different than it was a decade or two ago. The usage of the word now is perceived much differently than it used to be. The implications of using it as a racial slur haven't changed at all. But using it in quotes or in any non racist descriptive discussion based manner has changed.

Hot takes such as what exactly? Are we talking about the Ivermectin? Because if so, it's pretty widely known now that the horse medicine narrative was another smear tactic to paint him as an idiot. I guess it worked if that's what were talking about. He says dumb things with the precursor he's not an expert. All the apologies he's put out and his handling of the controversy has been better than most in his situation. His actually felt genuine and he wants to be better. People make mistakes, again that's kind of the whole format of the show, growing/learning/seeing other perspectives.

It goes beyond rural and metro midwest though, look at media over the last several decades. Hell Vince McMahon dropped it with an "A" at the end during a live broadcast in 2005. Joe Biden used it in congress quoting others. Chunk of TYT has a worse compilation video than Rogan floating around now.

It's not just entertainment. He likes to challenge the guests he has on, which makes sense because he's not just looking for someone to shill themselves. He's looking to be educated, and you can't be educated by simply listening and nodding. You have to ask questions if something doesn't sound right or you don't agree fully.

It's not benefit of the doubt, it's looking at it without a bunch of preconceived notions. The appeal of Rogan is he is having the same conversations most people have in private, not the fake conversations people have online. And he's doing it in front of an audience that eclipses the media. That's what terrifies people, hence the smear campaign. I like Rogan, I'm not a die hard. I listen to some of his podcasts, not all. It's not a ridiculous thing to say, in fact it's verifiable. When he got covid, and he promoted the idea of health and fitness and vitamins etc. as a much healthier way (long and short term) to battle not just covid but any ailment, that was taken and spun into him being anti vax. It's not ridiculous, because it legitimately happened. You can see for yourself, well you can if you want to. And once he was labeled andtivax, then he was labeled a right wing nut/conspiracy theorist. Now he's being labeled a racist. He's none of those things.

Kaepernick wanted notoriety because he was never going to be an NFL superstar, he was serviceable. So he turned his career into an agenda, and it worked. I don't like the kneeling thing, but I've also gone on record to say if you want to do it go for it. Better than rioting. But let's not pretend Kaepernick was doing anything without his own interests as the top priority. Rogan is doing the same thing he's always done, having honest conversations with people more knowledgeable than he is from both sides of the political spectrum. And asking honest questions terrifies people. The guy eat sleeps and breathes health and fitness, he promotes living a healthy lifestyle above all else. And people are trying to silence him because of it by digging up anything they can from his past.

Context matters. It should always matter. Cherry picking quotes to slander someone is the same as nut shotting someone you can't beat in a fight. And that's what's happening to Rogan.

Oh it has 100% changed in level of offensiveness, but not to the demographic that should actually be offended by it when someone uses it as a slur. There was absolutely a time where it was simply frowned upon instead of an instant cancelation and it wasn't that long ago. Also depends where you come from culturally, different areas changed at different times in terms of how acceptable it was to use in one context or any context. I've never been a fan of using it at all, but you're disregarding a lot of the way our society has evolved if you honestly think it's never been acceptable (and I use the word acceptable NOT as a way to insinuate that it is or ever was something that should've been acceptable. Again, it was frowned upon at one time, unlike now where white people don't care about the context if it's someone they want to deplatform)

He quite literally was not being racist, but the usage of the word is abhorrent either way now. At the time it was still pretty abhorrent and I was surprised the instances were as recent as they were, but taken out of context as they were, they look much more sinister than they actually were. I don't believe any intention of his has ever had any racist undertone.

Kinda shocked nobody is talking about Joe Rogan and Spotify

This is like breaking up with your sister to date your other sister's sister, roll tide

Trying to save another thread by projecting outrage?