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We have had these resources for decades now, and we still have not done anything with several coaches for 20 years. The whole resources issue is mispoken in my opinion. The biggest resource a program can have or get is players. We are not getting those on campus. So, I do agree that we do have resources, but we have had these resources and not gotten it done. My question is how does this change with this hire? Other than Urban Meyer, I don't see a name that would draw elite talent to Lincoln.

We have a talent development issue, which leads to a talent issue. We have rankings that suggest we have like talent compared to other schools, but we do not have developed talent. We will learn a lot about things when we play Colorado next season. Both teams will have new HC and staff. We will know right away if we are going in the right direction. Colorado is maybe one of the worst P-5 schools I have watched play football in the last 10 years. They have no talent. I think we are 3 season away from having a 7-5 season or better. We might get 6-6 right away, but I don't know for sure. We need more players developed, and that just doesn't happen in one off season. Portal will be huge, but we are competing against every other school for the same types of players.

If Mickey is retained, I think we won't lose too many. If perhaps someone who doesn't carry much cache is hired, we lose a bunch. Hate to say this but I think Mickey needs to be retained for at least one season in order to keep things moving forward. Whether thats as an assistant or head. Odds of him staying around if not named HC are slim at best, but thats the ultimate best case scenario.

Who ever had the Deboer analogy, could use the same for Lance Leipold. If you can build programs, you can build programs, RIGHT! Not saying I want Leipold, but every arguement for and against any coach, on anyone's list can be reversed or made to make some sense in some way or another. I like Troy Calhoun some because he would make this running game almost unstoppable. He would beat most non-con teams and the likes of Minny, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Michigan ST, Maryland and Iowa. Those would be wins. We would have to recruit elite talent and then start competing against Penn ST, Ohio ST and Michigan.

Why hasn't the name Willie Fritz been thrown out there for conversation? WE have named about every coach that has done something in the last 10 years, but him?

OK- Who do think are not going to be candidates at this point. I think we can take Aranda, Urbs, Kiffin, and Deion off those lists of desirable hires. This would leave who: Rhule, Campbell, Leipold, and BOB? Maybe Patterson, Monken, or -_______ fill in the blank. This honestly looks like this could be Mickey's job to lose at this point..........unless I am missing someone?

Lets see, Aranda not coming here, Joe Brady won't more than likely be our OC......so who would join Coach O on his staff at Nebraska? Mickey is not a coordinator............Eddie O is done with coaching. He just got a $15 mill payout and was happy about it..............happy to leave LSU.

I have watched Palmer all season pout after he doesn't catch a ball or the QB throws away from him......etc. The guy is a playmaker, but he is also selfish. He is not a team first player, and that one catch he should have made earlier in the game that he alligator armed, and still got tatooed, showed that. That was a key 3rd down play as well. The 4th down play just summed up his play and why he came to Nebraska.

Minnesota is a better program right now. They are bowl eligible( AGAIN) They also had a backup QB. They have a RB who just blew his achilles last season..........who was maybe the best player on the field.................we have talent issues. It is very frustrating that we are where we are. It is very sad that we have no identity. I lost alot of confidence in Mickey today. I am afraid that he is not head coach material. If you know that we should be running the ball more, and you think that we waited to long to change QB's today, your not cut out for this gig. Those are instinct based moves and moves that a Head coach has to make in a timely manner. I was looking at recruiting this week, and really Mickey has done a fine job, but I don't know if some of those recruits are difference makers right now. I would take a chance on a bigger name and more experience coach right now.

I think alot of people are now realizing that we lack talent. I think that most are realizing that we gave 4 years plus to Frost who evidently didn't recruit and try to recruit viable talent. We are realizing that our chances at a splash hire might not happen. I think that this season is proving to us where we stand at as far as being a power program in the current state of college football. Yeah, there is a lot to be pissed about right now, I think anyway!

Often I think that we don't want to play in a bowl game. We can't coach or play a game that makes sense. We run for 80 yards in one quarter, and give up on it. Again, here we sit, losing yet one more game to a West div team. I learned that our chance to hire a good coach is feeling like its dwindling. We continue to look so bad on both sides of the ball when it matters and when it counts. We are not a 2nd half team or a 4th quarter team.

We play in the worst division in college football. We are at the bottom of the that division and we keep finding ways to lose to teams in this division. Tell me again what anyone see's that would make one believe we can improve with this current roster? We beat Indiana and Rutgers, who are in the East. We still have not beaten a West Div team yet this season. This team needs two season and off seasons of work outs to truly get better. We need to get stronger, bigger and faster. We are losing Big 10 games because teams can just power the ball down the field when ever they feel like it. We can not run the ball well enough and we can not stop the run good enough to stop anyone. The next coach, whomever, has there hands full. Rhule won't take this job, Deion will not take this job, BOB won't take the job, and these guys don't want that much work. I think this hire will shine a light on where we stand at as far as a power program.

NO one is leaving Baylor for this mess, no one is going to coach here right now while making $10 mill to do nothing. Been watching this unfold for the last 5 years? This roster is not good enough to win the west currently. WE lack in all areas as a program right now. If you are a coach with a bright future, why come here right now? Honestly? We don't have alot to work with in many areas of this program. If we don't keep Mickey in some capacity, we lose most of our recruits for next season. I think we have a mess here right now, and by letting MIckey keep on the recruiting trail, its making things worse on everyone. This leads me to think that Mickey almost has to be the next coach. Otherwise, we have a huge mess on our hands. Thats what I think.

Just because we change coaches, that will not fix this team and its issues right away. We are deficient in talent, we are lacking depth, we are lacking fundamentals, and we are lacking strength and conditioning. So all I am saying is this team needs alot, this program needs alot of things to be successful in the future. We need the coach and staff to bring in some swagger, teach fundamentals, and get back our strength and conditioning. Not to mention, we have got to get better recruits, and build them into great players. In other words the coach that is hired has a tough job to do and its not going to be easy for the first two years. We need to build our lines from the portal and recruit better players to skill positions. Today, I watched a WR not leave it all on the field, and that was the story of this whole team this season. No matter who was or is coaching this team, these players don't all sell out on each and every play for themselves or there teammates. That WR who didnt get it done today, is our best player. When your best player is not willing to leave it all on the field, the rest of your team will not either. He can go back to LSU.

Whipple is my biggest issue going forward. Don't care if our starting QB is out, don't care that our backups are not passers. Fix the offense so your Qb's can compete. Coach the players you have to their ability level, not your scheme's level. This game again, put another nail in Mickey's coffin. I don't think he is the man, but still think it is unfair to totally blame him for this lack of production. In inherited a mess and is doing what he can with it. The little things that I don't like are fixable, but that haven't been fixed yet. Not running Grant more, not playing Smothers more, stop just eyeballing Palmer down the field on pass plays, O-line still not blocking, and we had a 10 point lead. We still play terrible football and had a 10 point lead...........This shows how pathetic the Big 10 west actually is this season............

My question would be what is more important: OC or DC? I think we need to have a good OC, and good offensive scheme. Defenses are now all 3 down and either a bunch of corners or nickel like players. The game has changed enough in that capacity that we just need 3 or 4 really good D-line players to get pressure on the QB and that seems to work out well. Regardless of what we think, we all know that if we don't get better O-line play, it won't matter what or who is OC.

I can back Mickey. I think he would bring in a good staff. He can recruit. He knows the type of athletes to recruit to have success. He learned and watched alot during his time with LSU. That team was a great offensive team with some great talent, talent that he helped bring in. If any of this has legs................

When you all are describing Bert at Illinois, you are also describing Aranda at Baylor. That concept works then for both in both ways. At this point, I think that we are now falling down the list of best job available list. Truthfully. We are not that job anymore and with Wisky and Auburn out there, and the recent success they have had, we are not in that tier. WE are better than most jobs out there right now, but if we don't make a move before the end of the season, we might be in lower tier of available jobs. This is my concern at this moment.

At one time Auburn was a good to really good job. Since Saban, its really tough. I would take a shot at it, especially knowing that someday Saban willl retire. Once Saban retires the SEC will be wide open for schools like Texas and OU as well. Right now its not a better job, and also not a worse job. They are more relevant in recent history, but not much more than that.

Question for everyone. Do we have top 35 talent on this roster? Have you seen anything on the field that would tell you that we do? I will tell you that our linebackers are not top 100 talent. I will also tell you that our lines on both sides are not top tiered talent. They are in position to make plays and just don't-whiff or just can't make the play. That is talent. That is want too as well. Our talent level is not real high at this point. The right coach for this job needs to have some solid reputation on transfers and will need to be a solid recruiter/developer. I think we have pieces, but those pieces are not good enough to win against better talented teams like Illinois has right now. The sad thing about all of this is Illinois is still a notch below MIchigan and Ohio ST. So that tells me that we are 2 to 3 notches below. We do have talent, but its not on the most important parts of a team. Developing talent has been our real issue.

I truly don't know if anyone wants or would take this job outside of a former Husker. Realistically. We put Mickey in a position that he is coaching players he didn't recruit. He is being asked to coach with coaches he might not want to have as coaches, and we think this now is all on Mickey all of a sudden is amazingly very Husker like. I will point out a few things: Aranda now has his own recruits and is not going to win 11 games this season. Kiffin: loses his coordinators every other season. If not Urban, then your stuck with Mickey at this point. I like Leipold, but I don't know even if he would take this job right now. I think KU has more developed talent on its roster currently. Kleiman is a great coach, and again his roster is better with more developed players. If we could get a tried and true all timer in here, lets go get him (Urban) (Stoops) are those guys. Next level coaches are many, many, too many to even start comparing resumes. Napier was this hot candiadate a few years ago, and with the talent he inherited, is struggling to win. Just showing that these hot coaches are not always the best fits for some places.

Bielema won't come here, he had this job once when he was at Arkansas and that lasted 5 seasons and wasn't good enough for that fanbase. Iowa is Bert's next job, thats his alma mater.

Really our program is prestigous, but our fanbase is viewed as ridiculous, spoiled, and just rotten to some extent. We get a coach here who can win 8 games for a few years, then we will want more and fire him. Why would anyone want this gig? This gig is not pleasant. We don't have golf course open year around, no beaches. You just have football, and most coaches families don't want that. This job is for a special person who either reveres this job as elite or is a former Husker. Yes the program is huge in some ways yet, in other ways were far behind others. We have to have that special coach right now to turn things.

Yes, the Tradition and History is great for us fans, but really current recruits and the nation overall, doesn't care about that anymore. We fired Solich and lost all of that. To this day, Steve Pedersen is the blame for this messing situation. Then we fired Pelini when he was at least getting us some relevance. Now we have none. How freaking hard is it to hire someone who can win the West Division? I am still slightly rooting for Mickey, but only if he gets rid of Whipple and some other pieces. Truthfully, if we can't get Urban Meyer, I don't know who else really can make a huge difference. I will pose this question once again? If we end up with Mick, does that really mean that we struck out with others? I think that is more the story right now. By the way, Baylor and Aranda is 4-3 this season, with now most of Aranda's recruits, not Rhules. Let that soak in some. Aranda might want to leave before that record next season is 3-4 or worse at this point.

Casey is part of this team and its issues. Whipple and this coaching staff didn't have Purdy ready is part of the problem and the other part is it won't matter much with an Oline that is as bad as ours. Palmer today was a big baby at times as well. When he doesn't get the ball, you can litterally see him pouting as he is running off the field. That would be the reason why he left LSU, not just for Mickey. He is a cancer. Bad attitude. I think we have far too many cancerous players on this roster at the moment. The next coach will need to evaluate this mess and weed out this roster in quick manner. I think today was the first time since Mickey became interim that this team looked like it was done. I think some of that was Illinois beating us at every facet of the game, but not all of it. We won't win another game now until Iowa. Not sure about Iowa game either right now. We will truly see if Mickey has the pulse of this team going into next week.