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  1. What an odd thread.

     

    As of others have said, there isn't really an accepted definition of what is required to be considered a "blue blood" CFB program. That said, I have yet to see any published list of "blue blood" football programs that doesn't include Nebraska (or one that does include MN).

     

     

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  2. 4 hours ago, knapplc said:

     

    It's got legs. We're going to get smoked by the Sooners this Fall, and then at home next year. Both times this is going to be the focus of conversation, and probably moreso the larger the margin of victory is.

     

    I'd bet it's brought up again in 2029 & 2030 when we play. It's the kind of shameful thing the people who hate your school don't forget.

    Agreed 100%.

     

    It's our "TEXAS IS BACK, FOLKS" moment but so much worse.

  3. 16 minutes ago, Toe said:

     

    So... they're saying that the team with the most wins in the East, who holds a head-to-head victory over the #2 team in the East, which wouldn't have changed even with a loss to Michigan, should be considered the champ of the East? And they're still not letting Ohio State schedule an out-of-conference game this weekend? And this is what people are getting their panties in a bunch about?

    They don't have the most wins. tOSU is 5-0, Indiana is 6-1. The h2h tiebreaker rule is only supposed to apply if there's an actual tie.  ESPN updated their rankings to show tOSU, a lot of other sites still have Indiana at 1.

     

    Granted there's a pandemic going on, but IMHO Indiana should have been given the opportunity to play their way into the championship. Beat Purdue this weekend and they are in. Lose and they are out. 7-1 beats 5-0, 5-0 beats 6-2.

     

    EDIT: Nevermind, apparently IN-Purdue is also cancelled. They're saying it's COVID but I'd be curious if the decision came before or after the tOSU vote. The ESPN story doesn't make the timeline clear, although the tOSU story posted at 11am and the Indiana-Purdue cancelation at 1pm. :dunno

     

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  4. I think this is 2009, put-the-second-back-on-the-clock for good ol' Mack Brown BS.

     

    On some level, I'd be fine with this if Indiana lost to Purdue this weekend, but to declare it before the games are even played is a joke and an absolutely sh!tty way to treat the Indy coaches and players. 

     

    If there's any cosmic justice in this Plague Year, tOSU will get curb-stomped in the playoffs. Roll Tide, I guess.

  5. 7 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

     

    It is interesting what kind of deaths we choose to overlook, and which ones spark outrage. We're pretty inconsistent that way. American soldiers, Coast Guard and firefighters will often risk multiple lives in order to save a single life, and we generally celebrate that.  4 Americans died in Benghazi in 2012, while 951 were killed by lawnmowers. 

     

     

  6. A few updates from SEC country.

     

     AL and Auburn are reporting significant increases in positive tests (5x for Auburn in the week since classes began)

    https://www.al.com/auburn/2020/08/auburn-universitys-covid-19-cases-multiply-by-five.html

     

    U Alabama convinced the mayor of Tuscaloosa to completely close all bars in town for 2 weeks in attempt to get the cases among UA students under control (after cancelling all student on and off campus events for 2 weeks and sending threatening emails didn't work):

    https://www.al.com/news/2020/08/tuscaloosa-bars-shut-down-2-weeks-to-slow-covid-spread-on-alabama-campus.html

     

    Nick Saban advocates for football season:

    https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2020/08/passionate-nick-saban-defends-efforts-to-play-football-amid-pandemic.html

     

     

     

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  7. 7 hours ago, Bledred said:

    Not going to happen.  Too much at stake.  The Spanish Flu killed half a million people in this nation and we still played college football.  Unless more than half an entire conference gets this all at once, they will not be stopping.  

    Too much at stake is right, which is why some program/conferences are trying to force a season and why it's all going to collapse. 

     

    Do you think Alabama, Georgia, or LSU will let the rest of the SEC play without them? Even if they do, at what point does ESPN point out that a Mizzou-Arkansas SEC championship is not exactly what all that SEC Network money was supposed to produce? 

     

    We might be so thirsty for any college sports to think we're content with Nebraska v. North Dakota Eastern Tech but it doesn't mean it makes financial sense for the networks or the even the teams to actually play those games.

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  8. 11 hours ago, Bledred said:

    Whats next for Nebraska you ask?....Watch Alabama win another National Title via the playoff.  A lot of people have yet to figure out that by delaying our season to the spring we (B1G) have just taken ourselves out of the playoff picture without even playing a single game.  

     

    Alabama is just one week into the semester and is already using 200+ of the 450 quarantine beds they leased from a local apartment complex to house sick kids of campus.

     

    No one is playing through to a national championship.

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  9. I just don't see football happening at the college level. College football teams aren't in a bubble - they're part of campus and local and state communities - and every campus has a protocol in place that will cause a shutdown if certain triggering events occur. 

     

    UTexas will go remote if any single one of their ~50k students dies of COVID.  Alabama supposedly looks at conditions in the local community, and statewide ICU capacity has been sitting at or below 15% for the past week in AL. 

     

    No way Texas lets the Big 12 play without them or Alabama the SEC. Teams will start toppling along with their states/campuses and the season will collapse.

     

  10. Interesting. I assumed that if a school didn't field a team for games or practices, then it couldn't count as a year of eligibility for the player. The schools just take the financial hit of paying scholarships for no games. 

     

    But if they loose a year even if sitting idle, then that explains why so many are pinning their hopes on spring ball instead.

     

    Failure to plan on so many levels.

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  11. While it's hypocritical for colleges to go on but cancel sports, tons of colleges are reversing their plans too.

     

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/08/12/hundreds-colleges-walk-back-fall-reopening-plans-and-opt-online-only-instruction

     

    For any school that goes forward, this semester is going to end up just like the last one - cancelled sports and remote learning.

     

    At this point, I'm more curious to see how coaches try to protect eligibility for players after they go forward for a few games before the season blows up. Why burn eligibility on an aborted season full of fill-in opponents from North Dakota? 

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  12. As a nation and as states, we have not flattened the curve:

     

    "According to UT's model, Texas is predicted to see a steep increase in coronavirus deaths by the end of August. By Aug. 31, the model predicts nearly 23,460 Texans will have died from coronavirus. As of Aug. 10, 8,459 people have died, according to the State's coronavirus dashboard"

     

    https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-ut-deaths-prediction-model-texas-austin-august-cases-update/269-f3523a4a-658f-460a-aff7-5bfa369d7067

     

    For those keeping score at home, COVID-related deaths in Texas are predicted to nearly triple in the next 2 weeks

     

    We were supposed to be in a lull right now and all plans related to K-12 and college education and athletics were premised on that assumption.  But instead the entire footprint of the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 will be a complete horrorshow in the next month or so.

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  13. On a sports talk show I heard last week, one of the hosts said to pay attention to what the military academies are saying about fans in stands because what they say is based on protocol from military brass, not administrator-speak.

     

    It was all in the context of UTexas' plan to have 50% capacity being BS. About 2 days after that, UT revised down the capacity to 25%. Granted NE isn't having the outbreak Texas is having, but I'm going to put Moos' statement in the hopeful BS category.

  14. 1 minute ago, teachercd said:

    I have been on mask patrol for summer school...it sucks.  

    I bet!

     

    I teach and run a department. In my class, I will have an attendance policy and reference the campus mask policy.

     

    In the department, I've told may staff to offer a disposable mask to anyone that "forgot one" and remind them of the policy. If they refuse to comply, we'll call campus security. If campus security refuses or is unable to enforce, it's going to be a short semester.

  15. 2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

    In all my time in college there was one time where I saw a Prof "correct" a behavior.  Dude kind of lost it on the kid too!

     

     

    You're right, it is a huge problem and one not most faculty or staff are going to want to take on. It's like being the doorman at Wal-mart - is it worth risking your life because someone doesn't want to comply with store policy?

     

    On the other hand, there are capital B billions of dollars riding on at campuses campus wide. If a college imposes the rule there will be means to enforce it. Maybe campus security/police, maybe just by expelling or flunking flagrant violators.

     

    That 's where this differs from all the Panera meltdowns. Students are paying a hefty fee for the privilege of being in that 8am survey course.  They are perfectly free to donate that sum to the university and go home.

     

    Don't get between the Man and his money.

  16. 2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

    Yeah, maybe in the classroom, maybe.  But what about just on campus?

     

    Interesting stuff for sure!  Most profs become profs because they don't want to deal with the s#!t we deal with when it comes to students.  

    There's always double-secret probation...

     

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  17. 9 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

     

    Some colleges are going to try in-person learning. They will also have an online-learning option. Some colleges aren't even trying. My friend's daughter's college, University of Seattle, finally gave up this week. Online only. If the dominoes start toppling, others may yet join them. 

     

    But "completely online" is a recipe for a different disaster. Imagine paying $30,000 to $60,000 for your kid to sit in their bedroom taking classes on Zoom. Imagine every class and vocation that requires physical tools and interaction. How much value do you put on the college experience itself? Many colleges have to raise tuition because they are bleeding cash all over the place. My daughter and her friends are all planning gap years and hiatuses, and both private and public universities may not survive the exodus. 

    It's a bad situation - parents and students don't want to pay the same fare for online classes but it's a fiscal apocalypse for most colleges and universities to charge less. In many circumstances, it's no easier (and often harder) to teach content via Zoom... especially if that's not how the course was designed at the outset.

     

    I hope your daughter's semester goes as well as it can. 

  18. Yes, colleges can require masks - it's actually pretty straightforward, at least on campus: just add them to the student handbook or honor code for students and employment contracts for faculty and staff.

     

    The only issue I've seen is in Georgia where the Governor has been trying to override all political subdivisions of the state (including colleges) from requiring masks. There's been a semi-revolt at Georgia Tech over that...

     

    Of course, what students due on on their own time or off campus is another story.

     

    Edit: there was supposed to be a quote from an earlier question - not sure why it didn't show up.

     

     

  19. On 7/10/2020 at 2:29 PM, kansas45 said:

     

    The plans set up by campuses to start later and end at Thanksgiving is TENTATIVE which means the whole thing can be called off at a moment's notice. I am stressing this and will stress this again: if a campus is opened up for face-to-face classes and if there is ONE case of covid, and I mean ONLY ONE case of covid, the WHOLE thing shuts down. This is no different than the scene in Caddyshack where there was a Baby Ruth candy in the pool. For those that do not remember it, here is a clip.

     

    But the plans aren't tentative - if you want to end in-person classes by Thanksgiving that will mean some combination of starting earlier (and moving up orientation, changing contracts for non-12 month employees, etc.), cancelling fall break, Labor Day, and other days when campus is closed and no classes held, and.or amending class schedules and times to get the necessary number of hours in before the cut off.

     

    Once you put those things into place you kinda have to follow through with it - unless you send everybody home even earlier.

  20. 34 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

    Honest question here, does anyone know, if after all the various highly conditioned athletes who have contacted Covid "recover", have they typically regained their strength, their VO2 max levels, etc, and if so how long has that taken?   

     

    Everyone keeps talking about death rates but these people are precision machines and it seems like getting this virus is like having sand dumped into your engine. 

    I've been wondering about this too, especially since some reports indicate there may a serious inflammation/vascular/blood-clot aspect of the disease:

     

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/health/what-coronavirus-autopsies-reveal/

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  21. The wild card is that many of the most populous and football-as-religion states are surging right now. This won't stay a sunbelt problem for long - we're weeks away from mass migrations of 20 somethings all across the country.

     

    All those three *** recruits from AZ, AL, GA, FL, and TX are heading north for mandatory workouts.

    All the kids in the north are heading south for the tri-lamb rush week because the tuition is cheaper and the winters are warmer.

    All the city kids are heading to the swanky liberal arts colleges in the sleepy, quaint little towns.

    All the country kids are chasing their dreams at the big city schools.

    Dogs and cats living together.

    Mass hysteria.

     

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