EngineeringHusker

Agree completely. Also, who says we'd even get 6 wins with this staff? UND and Georgia southern sure. NW is always a toss up- doesn't matter if we blew them out this year. Indiana beat Frost before. Rutgers is likely a win, but a Schiano Rutgers isn't a guaranteed win- we don't really have those with Frost. I mean we probably could make 5 or 6. But then if you fire frost, which you totally should in that case, recruiting has bombed and you give the new coach the tougher 2023 schedule.

I hate when people being up covid as an excuse for Frost. By that metric Mel Tucker is just about the greatest coach of all time. Taking over a shaky Michigan state team during covid. Being unbeaten in his second, scratch that, "first" year. Must be all of that talent and their reasonable expectations of building a program. Maybe it's their easier schedule? I mean we were on it. We can't even make a bowl game in year four.

I'd venture to say it's our talent that keeps us within one score of UM, OU, and MSU. Development is an issue for sure. We've had some recruiting misses for sure. But weve had players transfer and succeed- Avery Roberts, Wandale, Greg bell. Heck, Matt Farniok made an NFL roster. All he had to do was give up our S&C to slim up and gain flexibility. He didn't exactly light it up here, but obviously had the talent and/or measurables. Is there anybody we feel the staff, mostly talking offense here, has made better than when they started? None of the running backs. WRs, not really. JD spielman and Toure were good before. Austin Allen was gonna be an NFL player anyway. Jurgens snaps improved sure, but that should have never been an issue to start with. We've had four years of a QB who plays like a pretty good freshman. He's never progressed past the stage where a player makes sports center top 10 plays but in the same game makes some really awful ones as well- something you expect from a young up and comer, not a four year starter. There may be somebody on offense or special teams the staff has made better, and if so please enlighten me. However, it seems that anybody who is good, is good in spite of the staff and not because of.

What does Frost need that he doesn't already have? Just curious.

Big 12 was more fun. We either need to admit we are/were rivals with Colorado or admit that in the 2000s we were to Oklahoma what we think Colorado is to us.

You mean some of the people who say they know don't actually know?

Not sure why anybody ever puts stock into what ADs have to say about a coach during season. The current coach is always the coach they want, need, etc. ...until he's not

This is a good question, and I'm genuinely interested. What games have we won because of Adrian? Games that we couldn't have won without him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we have had one game winning drive at the end of regulation, and it was done by Vedral. Would we have only won 14 games rather than 16? Would we not have the close losses? I really don't know. This probably sounds harsher than it is supposed to. This isn't supposed to be an indictment, just an honest question.

This is where I'm at as well. See a lot of positives to this. Alternatively I'm nervous that if we keep frost next year, we get somewhere between 5-7 wins, he gets another year (cause improvement), stinks it up again, and now we're 8 years removed from a good season.

Seems like a great time. Talent is decent. Bar has been lowered. Next year's schedule is better. Seems like the prime time to be a new coach here.

There's always a new way. You'd think once, just once, we'd accidentally make the right call and actually pull one out. Coin flip has better odds.

I'm not that well versed on all coaches, so here's where they coached at. Not a great lousy of schools to be compared to. Mike Stoops got 8 years to figure it out and had two 8 soon seasons. Derek Mason got 7. Curry got 7 with a single 9 win season. Johnson had 8 seasons to try. Nobody turned it around, obviously. This list might make me feel worse...

Seems a little presumptuous to assume that anyone questioning whether Frost should stay or go obviously is overreacting. Also a little presumptuous to assume there is a correct answer to this question. It actually seems that the most emotional have been the ones who won't consider replacing Frost. Fortunately, nobody cares what any of us on a message board think!

I voted 0-4. Not an emotional reaction. Sure, we could win one. Not saying it couldn't happen. But, I don't see evidence saying we will. Haven't beat anyone with a pulse yet- why would we start now? Kinda feel anyone voting for 2-2 or better is voting based on their emotional investment into Frost.

Not like we won the game anyway...

Honest question. If you were an assistant coach, with no ties to Frost or the program, would you come here? I know money talks, but would it be enough?

But he's been close, which we now apparently judge things by. And by that standard he's been closer than frost has.

So, lots of people are saying Frost just needs to get Big10 style coordinators (although Chin seems fine). What makes that situation better than a new coach who brings better coordinators with him? Native son? Continuity?

I know 7-6 Minnesota in 2018. Who was the other?

What took so long to call the TD?

Even if they didn't quit, what shows that could or would beat anyone else left on the schedule? Our wins against buffalo, Fordham and northwestern?

Fixed that for ya

Our fans will continue to trash the guy just cause he's weird. Row the boat or not, the dude owns frost

Finding new ways to lose. Just astounding

Our two minute offense stinks. Maybe our 5 minutes offense will be ok?