BigRedN

Chuckle, chuckle ... ain't no way Bama takes a *** star recruit. This kid goes way up in rankings is my guess. :-)

He does have four really nice offers, so, looks like the schools at least see his gifts.

The predictions are over 75% now, so why is that percentage not 50% for us and 50% for Oklahoma in your mind? Why are others predicting him to be ?

Addiction Foundation Chart Presentation Addiction Foundation Chart THREE-PART PROGRESSIVE ILLNESS “The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.” P. 30 “An illness of this sort -- and we have come to believe it an illness -- involves those about us in a way no other human sickness can. If a person has cancer all are sorry for him and no one is angry or hurt. But not so with the alcoholic illness, for with it there goes annihilation of all the things worthwhile in life. It engulfs all whose lives touch the sufferer's. It brings misunderstanding, fierce resentment, financial insecurity, disgusted friends and employers, warped lives of blameless children, sad wives and parents - anyone can increase the list.” P. 18 Our book breaks down the three-part progressive illness into a PHYSICAL CRAVING, a MENTAL OBSESSION and a SPIRITUAL MALADY. “For we have been not only mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick. When the spiritual malady is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically.” P. 64 PHYSICAL CRAVING: What Happens In The Body Of An Addict. LOSS OF CONTROL: The left side of the Foundation Chart is characterized by this. “At some stage of his drinking career he begins to lose all control of his liquor consumption, once he starts to drink.” P. 21. The addict might start out with ability to “take it or leave it alone” (P. 20) but over time form a “habit badly enough to gradually impair him physically and mentally” (P. 20-21). “We lost our ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control … ”. P. 30 The progressive statements others make of the addict as this “queer mental condition” (P. 92) and “loss of control” develops are: “he does not see it”, “he wants to want to stop”, “he desperately wants to stop but cannot” and finally … “he appears definitely insane when drunk.” P. 108-110 SEEK AN EFFECT – HOW IT STARTS “Men and women drink essentially because they like the effect produced by alcohol.” P. XXVIII “They experience the sense of ease and comfort which comes at once by taking a few drinks.” P. XXIX ALLERGY LIKE / NEVER ENOUGH The “allergy like” means it only takes “one drink”, “drinks which others take with impunity” (P. XXIX). “We believe, and so suggested a few years ago, that the action of alcohol on these chronic alcoholics is a manifestation of an allergy; that the phenomenon of craving is limited to this class and never occurs in the average temperate drinker.” P. XXVIII “This phenomenon, as we have suggested, may be the manifestation of an allergy which differentiates these people, and sets them apart as a distinct entity.” P. XXX CRAVING / BINGING The “craving” is characterized by this statement: “One is too many and a thousand is not enough.” “Once he takes any alcohol whatever into his system, something happens, both in the bodily and mental sense, which makes it virtually impossible for him to stop.” P. 22 “The phenomenon of craving at once became paramount to all other interests.” P. XXIX “These men were not drinking to escape; they were drinking to overcome a craving beyond their mental control.” “The one symptom in common; they cannot start drinking without developing the phenomenon of craving. This phenomenon, as we have suggested, may be the manifestation of an allergy which differentiates these people, and sets them apart as a distinct entity.” P. XXX CONSEQUENCES “The fact is that most alcoholics, for reasons yet obscure, have lost the power of choice in drink. Our so-called will power becomes practically nonexistent. We are unable, at certain times, to bring into our consciousness with sufficient force the memory of the suffering and humiliation of even a week or a month ago. We are without defense against the first drink. The almost certain consequences that follow taking even a glass of beer do not crown into the mind to deter us.” P. 24 “It [alcoholic illness] engulfs all whose lives touch the sufferer's. It brings misunderstanding, fierce resentment, financial insecurity, disgusted friends and employers, warped lives of blameless children, sad wives and parents - anyone can increase the list.” P. 18 “Our behavior is as absurd and incomprehensible with respect to the first drink as that of an individual with a passion, say, for jay-walking. He gets a thrill our of skipping in front of fast-moving vehicles. He enjoys himself for a few years in spite of friendly warnings [first consequence] … (then) he is slightly injured several times in succession [second consequence]. Presently he is hit again and this time has a fractured skull [third consequence]. Within a week after leaving the hospital a fast-moving trolley car breaks his arm [fourth consequence]. He tells you he has decided to stop jay-walking for good, but in a few weeks he breaks both legs [fifth consequences]. On through the years this conduct continues, accompanied by his continual promises to be careful or to keep off the streets altogether. Finally, he can no longer work [sixth consequence], his wife gets a divorce [seventh consequence] and he is held up to ridicule [eighth consequence]. He tries every known means to get the jay-walking idea out of his head. He shuts himself up in the asylum [ninth consequence], hoping to mend his ways. But the day he comes out he races in front of a fire engine, which breaks his back [tenth consequence].” P. 37-38 ROCK BOTTOM / BUSTED At last, the addict “breaks their back”. As learned in the jay-walking example, the addict goes from “getting a thrill out of skipping in front of fast-moving vehicle” and only getting a “friendly warning” [first consequence] to a busted moment of “racing in front of a fire engine, which breaks his back [tenth consequence].” Every addict’s “rock bottom” or “busted” is different. SWEARING IT OFF / “NO MORE!” “NEVER AGAIN!” “After they succumbed to the desire again, as so many do, and the phenomenon of craving develops they pass through the well-known stages of a spree, emerging remorseful, with a firm resolution not to do it again.” P. XXIX “By every form of self-deception and experimentation, they will try to prove themselves exceptions to the rule, therefore nonalcoholic.” P. 31 “In our belief any scheme of combating alcoholism which proposes to shield the sick man from temptation is doomed to failure. If the alcoholic tries to shield himself he may succeed for a time, but he usually winds up with a bigger explosion than ever.” P. 101 MENTAL OBSESSION: SWEARING OFF Takes The Addict Up The EXPRESS ESCULATOR LOSS OF CHOICE: The right side of the Foundation Chart is characterized by this. “The main problem of the alcoholic centers in his mind, rather than in his body. If you ask him why he started on that last bender, the chances are he will offer you any one of a hundred alibis. Sometimes these excuses have a certain plausibility, but none of them really makes sense in the light of the havoc an alcoholic’s drinking bout creates.” P. 23 “And the truth, strange to say, is usually that he has no more idea why he took that first drink than you have. Once the malady has a real hold, they are a baffled lot.” P. 23 “At a certain point in the drinking of every alcoholic, he passes into a state where the most powerful desire to stop drinking is of absolutely no avail.” P. 24 “All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals—usually brief—were inevitable followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.” P. 30 “These allergic types can never safely use alcohol in any form at all; and once having formed the habit and found they cannot break it, once having lost their self-confidence, their reliance upon things human, their problems pile up on them and become astonishingly difficult to solve.” P. XXVIII SENCE OF CONTROL / PRESSURE IS OFF / “I GOT IT!” Here, the addict enjoys a temporary relief in his mind as he has asserted his own will. Most likely, he is trusting in his own “human power” (P. 60). MENTAL BLANK SPOT “We are unable, at certain times, to bring to our consciousness with sufficient force the memory of the suffering and humiliation of even a week or a month ago. The almost certain consequences that follow taking even a glass of beer do not crowd into the mind to deter us. If these thoughts occur, they are hazy and readily supplanted with the old threadbare idea that this time we shall handle ourselves like other people. There is a complete failure of the kind of defense that keeps from putting his hand on a hot stove.” P. 24 “They had said that though I did raise a defense, it would one day give way before some trivial reason for having a drink. Well, just that did happen and more, for what I had learned of alcoholism did not occur to me at all. I knew from that moment that I had an alcoholic mind. I saw that will power and self-knowledge would not help in those strange mental blank spots.” P. 42 “The alcoholic at certain times has no effective mental defense against the first drink.” P. 43 RATIONALIZING / PLANNING The illusion of the addict mind is that perhaps this time, he can “control and enjoy” (P. 30) by being smarter. Examples: “This time I’ll wait to she’s gone.” “Next time I’ll use cash.” “There is the obsession that somehow, someday, they will beat the game.” P. 23 “It won’t burn me next time, so here’s how!” P. 24 “The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker.” P. 30 RESTLESS, IRRITABLE, DISCONTENT Basically, in this part of the cycle “life happens” and amidst that “restless, irritable and discontented” feeling any opportunity for “ease and comfort” (P. XXIX) is appealing to the addicts “queer mental condition” (P. 92) or “peculiar mental twist already acquired” (P. 33). “They are restless, irritable and discontented, unless they can again experience the sense of ease and comfort which comes at once by taking a few drinks-drinks which they see others taking with impunity.” P. XXVIII-XXIX OPPORTUNITY Life will always present a new opportunity, whether it be from being “restless, irritability, discontented” (P. XXVIII) or it could be “the end of a perfect day, not a cloud on the horizon” (P. 41). In an event, whether it’s five minutes of free time or a weekend … the “suddenly” (P. 36) opportunity comes! “In some circumstances we have gone out deliberately to get drunk, feeling ourselves justified by nervousness, anger, worry, depression, jealousy or the like. But even in this type of beginning we are obliged to admit that our justification for a spree was insanely insufficient in the light of what always happened. We now see that when we began to drink deliberately, instead of casually, there was little serious or effective thought during the period of premeditation of what the terrific consequences might be.” P. 37 UNMANAGEABILITY Will I? Won’t I? Yes? No? Does the addict really have a choice? NO! “The fact is that most alcoholics, for reasons yet obscure, have lost the power of choice in drink.” P. 24 The addict mind perhaps says “NO” ninety-nine times, but inevitably, his sick mind finds the justification … “then comes the insidious insanity of that first drink” (P. 8). The addict mind says, “YES! I want this. I’ll control and enjoy just one drink!” “YES” Takes The Addict Up The EXPRESS ESCULATOR Back To The PHYSICAL CRAVING: The addict mind wants what it wants! In this case, the addict seeks the effect again of the “ease and comfort” (XXIX) that alcohol brings to the mind. Thus, the addict does it again and the cycle continues. “This is repeated over and over, and unless the person can experience an entire psychic change there is very little hope of recovery.” P. XXIX “So many want to stop but cannot.” P. 25 BAD NEWS: The Physical Craving (Left Side of Chart) Never Goes Away Well, if you have the “manifestation of an allergy” (P. XXVIII, XXX) you are “100% hopeless, apart from divine help” (P. 43). This truly is “Bad News” to an addict, “I’m screwed!” In fact, if the addict has this “manifestation of an allergy”, as with any allergy, the addict must give up the substance that is causing the reaction. Thus, the PHYSICAL CRAVING part of the illness never goes away. The Doctor’s Opinion, a chapter in Alcoholics Anonymous, makes a profound statement: “The only relief we have to suggest is entire abstinence” (P. XXX). Gulp! The authors are very clear … “We are without defense against the first drink” (P. 24). “Remember that we deal with alcohol—cunning, baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is One who has all power—that One is God. May you find Him now!” (P. 58-59). Remember, the opportunity will always come to the addict mind … “Again it was the old, insidious insanity--that first drink” (P. 154). The question presented to every addict is: “Do you want to quit?” DO YOU REALLY WANT TO QUIT? GOOD NEWS: The Mental Obsession (Right Side of Chart) Can Go Away There really is “Good News” … “So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves … “ (P. 62). Yet, “The Mental Obsession” part of the “Three-Part Progressive Illness” is something that can be broken and fixed. It is not uncommon to see this “Mental Obsession” broken in 45-60 days by working through the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, which “are suggested as a program of recovery” (P. 59). A recovered member, called a Sponsor, can direct you through the 12 Steps and share precisely how he recovered. The “Forward to the First Edition” shares this purpose. The Foreword to the First Edition states: We, OF Alcoholics Anonymous, are more than one hundred men and women who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book.” P. XIII NOTE: The verb “HAVE RECOVERED” is written in the “past perfect” tense. The use of that verb tense implies that it is an action that occurred in the past but which has become PERMANENT. THAT’S DARN GOOD NEWS! Additionally, the authors share “precisely how they recovered” via 12 Step instructions. SPIRITUAL MALADY: Characterized By A LACK OF POWER SPIRITUAL MALADY The Spiritual Malady is a disconnect or separation from power. Thus, the malady is characterized by a “lack of power.” “Lack of power, that was our dilemma. We had to find a power by which we could live, and it had to be a Power greater than ourselves“ (P. 45). There is a “hopeless feature of the malady” (P. 92). Additionally, the illness is considered “a fatal malady” (P. 92). “Even when you understand the malady better, you may feel … a natural annoyance that a man (addict) could be so weak, stupid and irresponsible” (P. 139). Regardless, “When the spiritual malady is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically” (P. 64). If an addict doesn’t “pursue the spiritual remedy for his malady“ (P. XIV) then the hopelessness of the cycle progresses creating an “infinity loop”. THE DEATH SPIRAL / INFINITY LOOP The “Infinity Loop” occurs when the addict cycles through the PHYSICAL CRAVING of the body, up the EXPRESS ESCULATOR to the MENTAL OBSESSION of the mind. The cycle occurs, reoccurs and with each impression of the next loop the mind works harder (going faster and deeper) and harder spiraling the addict toward insanity and death. Once the “Death Spiral” reaches maximum velocity the addict becomes an emotional tornado. “The alcoholic is like a tornado roaring his way through the lives of others. Hearts are broken. Sweet relationships are dead. Affections have been uprooted. Selfish and inconsiderate habits have kept the home in turmoil” (P. 82). “Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.” P. 30 “When this sort of thinking is fully established in an individual with alcoholic tendencies, he has probably placed himself beyond human aid, and unless locked up, may die or go permanently insane.” P. 24 “To continue as he is means disaster, especially if he is an alcoholic of the hopeless variety. To be doomed to an alcoholic death” … (is) “not always an easy alternative to face.” P. 44. For the addict, “There was an insistent yearning to enjoy life as we once did and a heartbreaking obsession that some new miracle of control would enable us to do it. There was always one more attempt - and one more failure. The less people tolerated us, the more we withdrew from society, from life itself. As we became subjects of King Alcohol, shivering denizens of his mad realm, the chilling vapor that is loneliness settled down. It thickened, ever becoming blacker. Some of us sought out sordid places, hoping to find understanding companionship and approval. Momentarily we did - then would come oblivion and the awful awakening to face the hideous Four Horsemen - Terror, Bewilderment, Frustration, Despair. Unhappy drinkers who read this page will understand! GOD – POWER GREATER THAN OURSELVES “When, therefore, we speak to you of God, we mean your own conception of God” … “At the start, this was all we needed to commence spiritual growth, to effect our first conscious relation with God as we understood Him” … “We needed to ask ourselves but one short question. ‘Do I now believe, or am I even willing to believe, that there is a Power greater than myself?’” … “It has been repeatedly proven among us that upon this simple cornerstone a wonderfully effective spiritual structure can be built” (P. 47). “Much to our relief, we discovered we did not need to consider another’s conception of God” (P. 46). For the addict, “We had to find a power by which we could live, and it had to be a Power greater than ourselves” (P. 45). “With few exceptions our members find that they have tapped an unsuspected inner resource which they presently identify with their own conception of a Power greater than themselves.” P. 567-568 THE WALL – The Deeds Of The SPIRITUAL MALADY In Affect It’s important to note that “The Wall” that formed between God and the addict is the direct result of the addict “playing God” (P. 62). As is with most addicts, “we had been worshipping … ourselves” (P. 54, 62). In reality, the blocks that are in “The Wall” are the direct result of the addicts “SELF” being in power. In the diagram, the blocks are bracketed by “SELF” which entail the “Ego” and “Pride” of “SELF”. The authors tell us, “Selfishness—self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles (P. 62). Thus, those two blocks form the cornerstone to this part of the diagram. The authors tell the addict “to watch for Selfishness, Dishonesty, Resentment, and Fear (P. 84). Thus, these form the base blocks of the diagram. “Anger” is directly in the center as this the emotion that seems to surface with most selfish addicts. “Anger” is surrounded by its friends “Shame” and “Blame”. Above “Anger” is “Self-Justification”. The rest of the blocks are all selfish words the authors chose to describe an addict caught in the cycle of addiction: “Self-Seeker”, “Self-Delusion”, “Inadequacy”, “Self-Reliance”, “Self-Knowledge”, “Self-Will” and “Self-Pity”. “So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves … ” (P. 62). “It is plain that a life which includes deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness” … “this business of resentment is an infinitely grave. We found that it is fatal. For when harboring such feelings we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the Spirit” … “we had to be free of anger” … “the wrong-doing of others, fancied or real, had power to actually kill” … “resentments must be mastered”. (P. 66) “We had been worshipping things other than God: people, sentiments, things, money, and ourselves”. (P. 54) “Selfishness--self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate.” (P. 62) TEARING DOWN THE WALL – Leads To A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE “Tearing Down The Wall” occurs when an addict works through and takes each of the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous with a recovered member called a Sponsor. A Sponsor “has had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps” (P. 60). “Are you alcoholic” … “If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer” … “to live on a spiritual basis is not always an easy alternative to face” … “But after a while we had to face the fact that we must find a spiritual basis of life—or else” (P. 44). As a protégé’ (term for a new, fellow addict) works the 12 Steps with a Sponsor, he starts to get “rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kills us! God makes that possible. And there often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without His … Neither could we reduce our self-centeredness much by wishing or trying on our own power. We had to have God’s help” (P. 62). “God can remove whatever self-will has blocked you off from Him” (P. 71) and the “sunlight of the Spirit” (P. 66). Thus, as an addict abandons “SELF” for a Power greater then themselves as he works each Step he comes into a “spiritual experience” or “spiritual awakening”. WHAT DOES A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE LOOK LIKE? Recovered “alcoholics have had what are called vital spiritual experiences” … “They appear to be in the nature of huge emotional displacements and rearrangements. Ideas, emotions, and attitudes which were once the guiding forces of the lives of these men are suddenly cast to one side, and a completely new set of conceptions and motives begin to dominate them” (P. 27). This “Spiritual Experience” or “Awakening” can and will look different to every addict. “To this man, the revelation was sudden. Some of us grow into it more slowly. But He has come to all who have honesty sought Him. When we drew near to Him, He disclosed Himself to us (P. 57). More perspective and insight on what might occur can be found by reading the Spiritual Experience on pages 567-568. Believe it or not … becoming sober is the start of a “Spiritual Experience.” Once sobriety is established many recovered members experience freedom. As stated, “We are sure God wants us to be happy, joyous and free” (P. 133). However, the real “end game” is knowing “the consciousness of the Presence of God” and that being “the most important fact of their lives” (P. 51), … and finally … “that I could STAND in the presence of infinite Power and Love” (P. 56). For many recovered members … “Life will take on new meaning. To watch people recover, to see them help others, to watch loneliness vanish, to see a fellowship grow up about you, to have a host of friends—this is an experience you must not miss” … “it is the bright spot of our lives” (P. 89). The authors of Alcoholics Anonymous stated, “What seemed at first a flimsy read, has proved to be the loving and powerful hand of God. A new life has been given us or, if you prefer, “a design for living” that really works” (P. 28) and in “rough going” (P. 58). Question: Are you ready to “trudge the Road of Happy Destiny” (P. 164)?

The guy has an impressive first move. On the film I've watched he seems to be better as an OLB than a WR. I could see him playing a bit of safety with a good first step and he seems to have little fear. Kid really looks like a manchild. Looks like he's in his mid to late 40's. A bit concerned the guys attitude might ignite a few too many penalties. Love the passion. This is the kind of kid we need on defense though.

I'm not debating you. I get your point. I did not say all that you said here either. We won't rebuild with 2 and 3* guys and Nash is a highly ranked winnable get for us. Sure, the program isn't restored and contingent on any one recruit. Yet, we are going to need 12-15 4* kids and hit on them plus coach them up. Even with this, we will only be a Top 10-15 in recruiting type of team. Thus, if we can survive without hitting on a very possible win in getting Nash, he does have to be replaced with an equal or better player if the "restore the order" is gonna take a stride in the right direction, IMHO. For me, it's like the end of the season, didn't we really need to go 4-2 down the stretch, win that Michigan State game (tough and close) to create the momentum? Isn't this how it's restored? We need to start winning the winnable games first, right? It's the same in recruiting. We can't just shock off a miss on the #122 player we have every possible opportunity to win and just say we are gonna get where we want to go with missing on our #1 targets at key positions. It's all semantics in a post but I know you and your posts and I believe you know mine over 10+ years. I don't need yo be right. I think the view presented here isn't "eye roll" material, although you have every right to do that. I have no issue with you or any member of the forum. PS. Attenbury is an example of a guy we "could" win but with the other Top 5 schools he has listed and with where we are at in rebuilding the program, to miss on him in my mind with those other programs is okay. Yet, if we win this battle is not the order more restored with him. If we were five years into the restore I think will have an even better chance of landing a kid like this, as I'm sure you and others do. Attenbury is an example in my mind of "could" win versus "should" win. But, in 5 years I will hope that when we are in the Top 5 that our percentages increase.

The eye roll is because some have a view that because we have Scott Frost and we are :bigredn: that we can basically take 2* and 3* guys and make Nebraska into Alabama and win 6-7 Natty's in a row. Well, I guess that is what it means. To your point, we just need to find the best kids who want to put the on their helmet. In this case, this kid is like #122 in the country as a ranking for a player, let alone at the DT position ... and in SD and close to us ... I don't know what the "eye roll" guy is looking for. This is a battle we could/should and WILL win. Oh well, we all have an opinion ... it is a forum.

Ya but ... the order isn't gonna be restored with a miss like this. So, if we miss ... then the brand will take longer to be restored. This one kid is the battle right now and helps in the rebranding of the product.

The Huskers are just absolutely horrible in recruiting St. Louis. No need to question this kid not picking us or slamming or insinuating anything toward Illinois. The fact is the fact ... we are absolutely horrible in that market.

^^^ The question I would still have is a poly kid gonna choose in the next two years (length of time this guy seems to stay) when his degree takes 4-5 years to complete. On top of that, it takes him two years just to get physically ready to play. So, I like the hire ... but I don't see major inroads or building blocks in the next two years. Je has to be here for 4-5 years to be impactful in recruiting poly kids, at least I understand it.

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This is how it went down ... :-) Just adding some humor from one of my all-time favorite movies ... https://youtu.be/yJJA6WRpvlg

That QB then, is already chosen, as we have our 2020 QB commit.

I'm gonna be happy with 7-5, not surprised if it's an 8-4 season.