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f#&% this s#!t, I am out of here. Moderators - Please cancel my account.

Do you have any evidence for Russia's involvement with Tulsi's campaign?

This is about as non-committal as it gets! https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/09/politics/hillary-clinton-health-care-public-option-bernie-sanders/index.html

Cool... been to Vienna and Linz.

Please provide a cite for this.

Syrian Kurdish leader says deal reached with Damascus and Moscow https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/86966e18-1977-4924-b17d-606097dabc53?fbclid=IwAR1ubfYntZhMxHWvcvLPFCqxdhOcZJxfozS6otAJb8ay61k7I6PCo-FqHNk Turkey Warns Of War As Syrian Army Heads To Turkish Border https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/syrian-army-enter-turkish-besieged-kobani-manbij-within-48-hours-us-exits Esper says U.S. staying in Syria, but withdrawing south of Turkish advance and deal in works to have Russians protect Kurds https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/10/13/esper-says-us-staying-in-syria-but-withdrawing-south-of-turkish-advance-and-deal-in-works-to-have-russians-protect-kurds/?fbclid=IwAR2_L55sXAW1mqnAHCNhxtbFo83qiGR8I0jRJ804L4P033E66iaKxrtanM0#.XaNZ8BoLSZ4.facebook

That would be Eisenhower's fault, who was president when Incirlik Air base was opened as a joint use base.

Which countries?

The "fight against the center" is against centrists who epitomize the similar corporate values of both major parties.

I don't give a f#&% what you or anyone else thinks, but I do answer questions when asked (as you did). If you don't give a rip (whatever that means), then don't ask.

That was a while back, sometimes I block for a moment to diffuse disagreement, then unblock. I may unblock the three on my list in a day or so.

I believe that only one 2020 candidate was with the Native American water protectors at Standing Rock.

I have blocked three people, none of which were interested in civil conversation.

Right, Hillary was about ACA status quo, and Trump is about death through medical bankruptcy. While he is a monster on healthcare, she is all about the profit margin. While he is much worse here, she was expected to be worse on militarism. All and all on those two items, it's pretty much a wash. But I am happy to have the illusion of a choice in 2020.

Reading through the disagreements in the discussions in this folder is tame compared to the football folder. At least in politics we get to vote after pretending to be smarter than Scott Frost (which I am not). And like in the football folder, people just want to vent at the system. We all see that it is broken, but how to fix it has a million different solutions. And sometimes we just can't understand how others don't see the obvious solution as we do. All we can do is present our ideas on politicians and policies here, as we do on personnel and play calling there, and hopefully realize that what we see and value may not be what others see and value.

It is lame to block people just because they disagree with you. However it is prudent when they have no interest in honest discussion.

By your response, it looks like you disagree. But instead a silly gif; can you explain why you believe that Hillary was less warlike, and how she showed any support whatsoever for single payer or medicare for all?

Bye Moiraine, I am blocking you. You have no interest in discussion, only pointless argument.

Most people can't understand those who do not subscribe to one of the two party lines. Unfortunately we have a two party system where your choice are one of the two evils, a protest vote for a third party, or to stay at home. Since American voter turnout is low, it seems that a near majority often picks the latter. Many people blame progressives who did not vote for Hillary as being idealistic purists. Others say as you did, that "a candidate doesn’t check all your boxes". Well, Hillary did not check any of my major boxes. Neither did Trump, other than opposing TPP and TPIP. And as I said many times before, with both candidates really sucking (like our performance today vs Minnesota), that the most important thing for me was to hope for a progressive alternative in 2020. And that sure as heck would not be from the Republicans. That was not an attempt at a moral point, it was 100% calculated pragmatism.

I asked you a question, and you ducked it with a non-answer. What source did i use that is alt-right? What sources are acceptable to you? And I never mentioned that you did watch MSNBC. Ar right about CNN, they are nor radical left. They are corporate left.

Trump sucked less on those specific issues than was expected of Hillary.

That does not make Interfax Ukraine "alt-right", nor RT or Sputnik. And as I asked... "Can you name a better source from Ukraine?"

The objective is to keep Turkey in the military alliance (but not the EU), and to distance them as far as possible from Russia and Iran.

That's fine, I don't expect that I will be in agreement with everyone. As long as we can respectfully disagree while understanding the other's values, we'll get along fine.

What most all on the left here failed to understand, is that progressives did not view Hillary as "nothing special". Speaking for myself; my two most important issues are (1) ending our state of constant warfare, and (2) implementing single payer medicare for all. 1) Hillary was seen as more warlike than Trump. And as bad as he is, things could be a lot worse. 2) Hillary was firm;y set on for profit health care, and their would not have been any reform. And then there were the twin disasters known as TPP and TPIP that she supported.