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I call bulls#!t on your post... what alt-right sources? Do you only accept links from CNN and MSNBC?

Thank you very much. When the party that you believe should represent you values does not, you vote to change them, not the other guys.

I was following the recent Israeli election between Netanyahu and Ganz, plus a bunch of third parties. I would be interesting to see how an election would happen here in the US if we had multiple parties with the same media access, and a coalition government had to be formed.

Labeling progressives as "the extreme left" is the ultimate Republican talking point... borrowed and now owned by the centrist Democrats.

Primary elections have consequences too, as 2016 showed us. This can't be buried under the rug, lessons need to be learned. But which lesson? Lesson #1) Trump is bad, we should have voted for Hillary. Lesson #2) Hillary was bad, we should have voted for Sanders.

If you read my post, I stated that my choice was that Hillary was not the incumbent in 2020. So yeah, I guess that means that I "preferred' to suffer through four years of the orange anal wart. At least we have a choice in 2020, no TPP or TTIP, no No Fly Zones in Syria or Ukraine, and (as of yet) no hot war with Iran or Russia.

Great job Trump, he's turned our armed forces into a mercenary business.

The error in your analysis, is that I and other people like me would learn to make McRibs [a progressive candidate] ourselves and not rely on McDonalds [the DNC controlled Democrats] to supply them for us. In doing so, the fate of Burger King [the Republicans] would not be relevant, and McDonalds [the DNC] would go out of business.

That is a strawman assumption. I would be less happy knowing that after four years of Hillary, that our choice was between more Hillary and another Republican. What does make me happy, is the chance to support a progressive candidate in 2020.

War creates dynamic situations, things do not always go as planned. I can see how this mistake was made, but we should never have been in a position to allow it to happen. ISIS is not a homogeneous group. Different state actors support (especially the Turks and Saudis) and oppose different groups within it. Some accuse the US and our Kurdish allies of claiming military victories over friendly ISIS while allowing them to escape and redeploy elsewhere. Some of those prison camps are real prison camps, others are military bases being readied to spring into action when liberated by their Turkish allies.

One of the principal reasons progressives did not vote for Hillary in 2016, was that if she won she would be the incumbent in 2020. And if the was the incumbent right now, we would not be having a spirited primary with the chance to vote for someone like Sanders. The same goes for the 2020 cycle, we don't want centrist garbage.

If Trump did not exist, progressives would still be criticizing Biden and other neoliberals. We called CNN and MSNBC fake news long before he was running. Two people can look at a situation and see a problem, and criticize it for completely different reasons. If you think that we are smug, we have the same opinion of corporate Democrats. Is there a common ground between progressives and neoliberals? Unfortunately I do not belirve so, mostly because of the donor base. That is why progressives want to see the DNC destroyed. Progress cannot be made until Trump and the Republicans are opposed by good candidates.

Let me explain this again for the umpteenth time... The DNC has very significant control over who runs as a Democrat. They have admitted in court to legally cheating in the 2016 primary to favor Clinton over Sanders. Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate who alienated progressives, and a significant number of us did not VBNMW. We believe that Sanders would have easily beaten Trump in 2016, and can do so again in 2020. Trump cannot stop a progressive from becoming the president, and in our two party system only the DNC can stop him. That is why I oppose the DMC and corporate Democrats, and not the Republicans. Regarding the Democrats; in my opinion they should be the party on the left that represents the people. They aren't, and I am fighting to change that. While the current DNC is in power, that change won't happen. Regarding the Republicans; I have friggin' zero expectations that they will ever represent the people. Their goal is to represent the oligarchy, and their base is beyond hope. All the fighting to change that will not fix something that is rotten to the core by design. They cannot win unless the DNC f#&%s up with really terrible candidates like it did in 2016. Trump is a truly horrid human being with no redeeming values, but he would not have won without a major assist from the DNC. All the complaining about Trump one can do will not fix anytrhing, if the DNC is allowed to continue to control the opposition that Dems offer in elections.

How is being sympathetic to the plight of our individual soldiers stuck in a bad situation, being sympathetic to Trump? How was my statement in any way critical of the Democrat establishment?

Mistakes can be made by our military too. Perhaps after that Turkey will not make any more mistakes.

Ryan Grim is a very progressive journalist from the Intercept. Democrats (the corporate neoliberal type) are not at all progressive. That is why news outlets like the Intercept will criticize Biden on Ukraine, while doing so is blasphemy on CNN and MSNBC. And the neoliberal Democrats will blindly accuse progressives of repeating Republican talking points.

How has he lasted so long there? Shep was great when he mocked Bill O'Reilly on the air.

Fair enough. I'm sure more will come out on this, and if your interested you can investigate more with sites you have come to trust.

More Republican talking points from Ryan Grim.

Everything I have posted indicates that I oppose the DNC and corporate Democrats, believe in progressive values, and despise Trump and the Republicans. Most progressives have learned that the DNC would rather lose to Trump than win with a progressive. Neoliberal Democrats like yourself cannot fathom that their are more than two sides, and that anyone who is not a fan of establishment Democrats must by default be a Republican.

That's why I posted... However she is not very progressive, and has abandoned M4A. Her foreign policy is too supportive of our current conflicts for my comfort.

I found two items from that video to be very troubling, and then there was her failure to prosecute fraudulent banker Steve Mnuchin (now trump's Secretary of the Treasury). 1) Although she says she opposes them now, Harris had been a supporter of private prisons. She did keep people in prison (a taxpayer expense) longer than necessary to take advantage of forced low cost labor. https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/08/01/opinion-why-kamala-harris-is-unfit-to-be-president/ 2) Harris knowing withheld evidence that would have exonerated someone on death row.

As someone on the progressive side, I found Harrris' fundraisers at Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons to be troubling, along with her strategy meetings with Hillary Clinton. Despite being an early supporter (post 2016) of M4A, Harris has changed her position on it. I would have a difficult time voting for Kamala for POTUS or on a ticket with her as VP, but I do think that she would make a good Attorney General under a progressive president.

This is what happened to Kamala Harris' campaign. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfp_IIdVnXs

One can only assume that you did not read the post of mine that you quoted and hastily replied to.