CriticalFan

Nope, but I thought Iowa natives didn't know how to drive? Are we sure they know where the brake pedal is?

Yeah, who thinks college students should care about academics! Crazy!

Yes. After a 4-8 season, the burden of proof is on the coaching staff to prove to us they can have what it takes.

Below are the Heisman contenders from 2018-2019 season...Note how the only significant 1st or 2nd place votes were cast for Kyler Murray, Tua Tagovailoa, or Dwayne Haskins....from teams who have a good record. Nebraska will have to be in National Championship contention (in other words a very good record) before AM will even compete for the Heisman. Yet you think people are crazy for pumping the brakes on a Martinez for Heisman? Kyler Murray Oklahoma 2018 Record (12-2) Tua Tagovailoa Alabama 2018 Record (14-1) Dwayne Haskins Ohio State 2018 Record (13-1) Will Grier West Virginia 2018 Record (8-4) Darrell Henderson Memphis 2018 Record (8-6) Gardner Minshew Washington State 2018 Record (11-2) Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 2018 Record (8-5) Travis Etienne Clemson 2018 Record (15-0) Quinnen Williams Alabama 2018 Record (14-1)

Can someone older than me (I was born in '87) tell me if this amount of Koolaid and Hype (Heisman Watch Top 5, Best QB in the Conference) used to start before anyone had even played a game in the 70s and 80s? It seems like they push it earlier and earlier every year. I feel like they are trying to sell us Xmas decorations before Halloween.

4-8 last year, and now ranked #19.....pumping a straight IV of Koolaid into the veins

I would say that most if not all of the "changing the culture" argument in favor of Scott Frost is based, if you drill down far enough, to working harder or making players more team oriented. What else are you supposed to gain from "The Program", or in the words of Erik Chinander : " “The ‘care factor’ is high right now — about each other and about the program. Scott does an unbelievable job. And I think what makes him the best is the culture piece of this whole thing.” I think there are some people who think Scott Frost brings great coaching ability and skill to his position. I also believe there are others that believe all he had to do was "change the culture". You heard it on the radio when he was hired (especially in reference to how the culture had deteriorated under Reilly), and particularly in regards to former players, here is what Matt Davison had to say: “I don’t think character was something that was looked at enough. I don’t think fit in Nebraska was looked at enough,” Davison said. Frost’s staff is placing an emphasis on character on the recruiting trail, Davison said. If they like a kid’s film, but not the kid, they won’t offer. They don’t just watch the highlight film, they watch entire games of recruits. They want guys who compete every play, Davison said. Other problems that added to the culture the past few years, according to Davison, were issues in the weight program and overall accountability. “We need better players and we need guys that are willing to go do things that we ask them to do,” Davison said. When Davison looks at the team right now, he sees guys who want to win. Guys who had no fun a year ago and want to get better. But the culture needs work. Jason Peter on Mike Riley and what Frost had to fix "An undisciplined, player-coddling culture " When Davison looks at the team right now, he sees guys who want to win. Guys who had no fun a year ago and want to get better. But the culture needs work. You are really telling me that no one believes that all Scott Frost had to do was come to Nebraska and change the culture (instilling hard work and team first attitude)? Or if you have a different definition of culture, what is it?

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You are right, they weren't caring enough until game 7. (Posted from the hills I ran to - CriticalFan)

We will have to agree to disagree on whether or not people believe that all NU has to do is "work harder" or be more "team oriented", I see too much evidence of this in the forum and in those I talk to on a day to day basis. However, I do think you are right that I could have been missing some of the point in painting it as a black and white situation. Thanks for a constructive reply.

Defensive coordinator Erik Chinander hears all the suggestions about physicality and execution and scheme. He offers something else. “They want to play for each other,” he said. “The ‘care factor’ is high right now — about each other and about the program. Scott does an unbelievable job. And I think what makes him the best is the culture piece of this whole thing.” A large amount of pre-season "journalism" (way too strong a word for gossip and propaganda/hype) is just to fill pages with ink so you can give something to readers who are aching for something to fill in their football diet....also as a disclaimer I could not read the full article, because I am not a subscriber. HOWEVER, whenever I hear touchy feely things coming from the coach's mouth, like 'caring', 'work ethic', etc, it makes me want to run for the hills. The farther the coaches get away from concrete things they are doing different, and the closer they get to "working harder" and "caring more", the more worried I get for our season.

"The Program" and routines like it are commonplace in college football and have never been shown to be effective. I don't post this to be a downer, but I just can't stand all the sunshine pumping. People seems to think all Nebraska has to do is "work harder", and "be 100% committed and team-oriented" and we will win championships. The idea that treating football like a military exercise is a good tactic, to either win football games, or build team spirit, has been debunked over and over again, from Paul Bear Bryant at Texas A&M, through to the modern medical understanding of sports injuries and psychology. Ohio Bobcats 2014 after Navy Seal Training: 6-6 record Northwestern Wildcats 2014 after Navy Seal Training: 5-7 record Arizona Football 2016 after Navy Seal Training: 3-9 record You could go on and on and on and on and on. You could also find great teams that go through Navy Seal Training in the pre-season and do great in the regular season. Because those teams are already good. https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Can-Save-Sports/dp/1442242647 https://www.foxnews.com/sports/preseason-military-style-training-becoming-commonplace-in-college-basketball-other-sports (2013)