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  1. 45 minutes ago, SODAKSKERSFAN20 said:

    The only ones you could be truly disappointed in were Lovett, Van Dee, and Pinto. Robb could have won one more. 125 was tough! Hardy getting 3rd is great. Taylor placing at 165 is great! Allred ran into the only guy in the round of 12 he didn’t want to. Any of the other 3 draws in R12 he would have placed. The three I mentioned above cost Nebraska a Top 3 performance. 

    I'm not sure that I was disappointed at individuals specifically, but more so the team coming out with such a strong start the first day and then getting the reality checks in the quarters. There were some very tough draws so I don't blame anyone in particular. With half the lineup reaching AA status, that's an impressive feat alone. However, pairing that with finishing outside the top 5 is kind of a letdown. Whole lot of progress this year though and should have a great group returning. Hopefully the team can shore up a few spots and make a run at the title next year. 

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  2. 9 hours ago, admo said:

    Yeah true, but maybe he so clever that he knew he would never get fired from Nebraska and have to be the AD for the next 20 years.........working all the time......stressing.... but if he goes to A&M and get's fired in 3 years, he still gets PAID.   

     

    And then he can retire and enjoy life during his 50's with his fam with millions.  Who would really care at that time?   

     

    That's what I would do.  Think ousside of the box.  Be a lifer at Nebraska, or go to A&M, get fired, and then Enjoy your wealth with your fam and friends living on the Coast for the next 20 years instead.  I mean, who wouldn't want to do that instead ?  ;) 

     

    If early retirement was the goal, he could just as easily have stayed here 3-5 years then retired. Based on comments Frost made back in the day and Trev's comments this week, it sounds like the roles (AD & Head Football Coach) had/have pressure from above to perform duties beyond the scope of the typical job description most coaches and ADs do at other schools. I don't suspect that A&M is too much different, however A&M also has the structure in place to support the program and is in a big state with enough competitors that there may not be as much meddling from the top-down, and more from the outside (boosters). 

     

    I remember reading something to the effect of 'now Scott can get back to focusing on football' once Trev was hired and became more of a fence between the coach and boosters/BoR/whomever. Similarly, I believe Green & Carter might have had that role between Trev and the BoR/whomever. If the meddling was getting to be too much without the leadership to fend off requests/demands, I can understand looking around. However, what I can't understand is the rug-pull aspect of this and staying too politically correct to not find a subtle way to drop bread crumbs of the issues to others. Did he handle it professionally by not revealing more about the issues prior to the action? Sure, but in doing so, it puts the school he loved in a bad light again and leads to immense speculation with no identifiable solutions other than burn down the whole structure to "solve" the ongoing problem(s). All the goodwill Trev built over the past several years is essentially wiped out, he turns into a villain, and Nebraska remains no better off (for now). Quite the bummer. 

  3. Just now, Mavric said:

    For as good as we played on both ends in the first half, we've been just as bad in the second.

    Too much one-on-one action and not enough running the offense. Also getting overpowered on the defensive end, Illinois playing bully ball definitely plays into their strengths.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

    I’d be surprised to see Trev there long. 

    I forgot who mentioned it in the thread earlier, but they mentioned that he had thrown his hat in regarding being Big Ten commissioner and something regarding the playoff. They also highlighted that this step would mean he's led at a mid-major (UNO), a Big Ten school, and now an SEC school. It's a resume that could potentially put him in line for something overseeing college athletics at-large ahead. No idea if that's his gameplan or what his goals are, but if the Big Ten & SEC were to break away from the NCAA down the line, he would likely be on a shortlist of candidates to lead the joint venture.

  5. 2 hours ago, I am I said:

    Can we win some games during the football season this year? 
    Are the coaches and players, on a day to day level  affected by this? 
    Will our players not lift enough weights, or the coaches not go thru enough film to win some games? 
    Will players transfer or will we lose recruits because of our AD loss? 
    Will the volleyball team not compete as hard? 
    Will the basketball team turn in their jerseys? 
     

    Will our 1 hitter strike out because of this news? Will he not steal a base? 
    Will our 2nd team women’s striker on the soccer team not run as hard? 
     

    We gotta think, as a collective group, that  the day to day of coaches and players will go on as necessary to compete in games and practices. The players play and the coaches coach. 
     

    Who the AD is and why it matters doesn’t even inch into the players and coaches competing right now. At all. 

    it will affect how things are “run” and the ability to “get better” over the long haul, for sure.
    But does anyone think the kids who compete give 2 f’s overall? 
    nah, this doesn’t matter overall, in the short term. 
     

    This move hurts us as fans, and we understand that there are systemic problems, needs that should be addressed, that we can get worse or better real fast in the Admin phase of things….

     

    But damn. We need to slow our role on the overall affect of this news. Sun comes up tomorrow. 
     

    The only part I'll disagree with is the coaches being affected. The AD is ultimately their boss so there has to be a little concern on who their new boss might be. If there is uncertainty about who will lead them, it could easily cause a coach to start looking around at other schools with stability. Essentially, a fear of the unknown sort of thing. Now that said, you're spot on that it should not have an effect on the players, teams, or on field performances whatsoever. 

  6. 2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

     

     

    People need to realize a moving truck is maybe .05% of Rhule's yearly salary. 

     

    True, it would not take a lot to move again when the next opportunity comes up. However if he's committed to the school, program, state, etc. to the point of actually moving his parents in their 70s halfway across the country, that's a very good sign for all involved. Now hopefully he can enjoy success on the field, our administration uses his wisdom/input in making some crucial decisions, and everything stabilizes in the levels above our coaches and programs. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, The Maudfather said:

    I don't disagree that there are issues that extend beyond the AD position. Clearly, there are. 

     

    I just think that it's pretty chickens#!t to run away from them instead of trying to be part of the solution. 

    I agree, though if his "interim" boss already was conflicting with his vision and that interim tag was considered being removed, I can partially empathize with Trev's decision even though I don't like it. Can't be easy to stay at a job out of loyalty when your direct boss does not support your vision/goals.

     

    Most relatable example I can point out is between Pelini and Eichorst. Bo got along well with Osborne and shared his vision of how to run a program. Osborne protected Bo from having to deal with Perlman. Perlman's ego couldn't stand Osborne or Pelini so in walks Eichorst who had a different vision of how an athletic department should run. We all know how that played out and have been suffering the consequences ever since. 

  8. 5 minutes ago, The Maudfather said:

    I disagree with this take. 

     

    Trev was already very well compensated. Hell, if it was a money issue, this could've been solved without leaving town. 

     

    Trev was a Husker. This is about more than money - this is about loyalty and what it means to be a Husker. Strip this motherf#&%er's name off the North Stadium and let's hit a home run on the next hire. 

    I agreed with you up until this part. "Loyalty and what it means to be a Husker" could mean any number of things (characteristics) to anyone. You can bash him and blame him for whatever you would like. However, as we've learned in the past 24 hours, the problems within our system extend beyond the AD position and don't appear to have a firm solution on the horizon.

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  9. 1 hour ago, soup said:

    So, why again is that a problem?  Maybe the BoR and the new president didn't want to spend a half a billion dollars on a stadium project.  They could build a new one for close to that. Not NFL quality but pretty damn nice.  Trev might want it to happen, but he wasn't budging at all on the scope of the stadium project.  Which leads us to where we are now.

     

    The BoR changed the structure, because Carter left for a top 3 presidents job in the country.  Otherwise Trev would not have had anyone to report to.  And as has been stated the 200 + days to find a new president and chancellor is not far off from the "norm"

    It's a problem because we lost the three most high profile University leaders in less than a year and a half. We don't appear to have a direction as a University and the Board to oversee this direction appears to be dysfunctional. Previously, the AD reported to the Chancellor and University President. They swapped the Chancellor for the BoR after seeing how much trouble Perlman caused with Athletics for 20 years. Unfortunately, as previously mentioned, the BoR appears to be messed up on priorities and with no President in place to guide or at least stop the BoR from meddling, Trev didn't want to be their puppet anymore. Hence, we have problem solvers who appear to be the key source of the problem. 


    Regarding the stadium and costs... most fans agree that changes were needed for the stadium. To build a stadium filled with the modern amenities expected from fans, coaches, and players would be significantly more than the suggested remodel price (est. $450 million). A new stadium for +70k would almost certainly exceed $1 billion to be competitive in the modern day. Trev's vision on the stadium was absolutely necessary, it sounds like the BoR were good with the stadium projects... so long as someone else (boosters) would foot the bill. Therein lies the problem.

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  10. 35 minutes ago, soup said:

    And to me that is pretty petty.  The employee doesn't get to hire their boss.  Could you imagine the problems that would create!

     

    Not to say they don't have input, but it's not their decision to make.

    The employee doesn't get to hire the boss, but the employee doesn't have to stay if he doesn't like the boss(es). The two key figures he signed on to lead "under" were Carter and Green. Green left, the Board of Regents changed the structure to have the AD directly report to the President (Carter). Carter leaves, "interim" President inserted who Trev doesn't align with and Trev bails. There is probably more nuance to the decisions made, but on the surface it appears that Trev didn't like his new boss and didn't see a path where their visions could line up together. 

     

    I hope the Regents strongly evaluate who they end up signing on as the University President. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, Hilltop said:

    I think you put Matt, Fred, and John in a room and ask them their opinion on who should be hired.

    Absolutely! I'd also recommend they take the opinions of Manning & Revelle into account as long-tenured coaches who know what is successful and what isn't. If nothing else, figure out the characteristics of an ideal candidate for the athletics side of the equation. Though I also hope/wish they included Cook & Rhule in the interviewing process as both seem to understand and express opinions on matters beyond just their individual sports.

  12. 2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

     

    Agree with everything Dirk has been saying the last 24 hours.

     

    I think there is plenty of blame to go around here.  BOR, lack of President, Chancellor, Governor, Legislature, and Trev - all of them.

    Agreed, there were plenty of ways he could have gotten his message across over the past year with how frequently he was taking interviews and interacting with reporters. Instead, the action yesterday comes across as impulsive, though I'm sure the idea had been under consideration for months. The unfortunate part is that the abrupt change has turned fans from praising him the past several years into an angry group searching to find dirt on him or justify why he's a bad leader/person. We would be dumb not to take him back tomorrow (should he get cold feet), but I'm not sure there is a bridge to get him back. Just sucks all around.

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, The Dude said:

     

    Which begs the question, what does a University president actually do?

    For one, they act as a quasi-fence between the AD and the Board of Regents. No President presumably means the Board of Regents have more control over the AD (and others) which can lead to the Regents treating those under them as their puppets. The lack of alignment within the system is a big problem. 

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  14. 3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

    It’s so damn frustrating. 
     

    The problem is, it’s obviously as far up as the Regents, governor and legislature. So, it’s us as Nebraskans that are causing it. 
     

    I would love for these guys to come back and explain honestly why they left. But, I would guess that the average Nebraskan won’t accept it. 

    For sure Regents not filling the President spot is a problem. I don't know about the internal politics to give a firm opinion on the governor/legislature end. I can't help but wonder if there were simply too many cooks in the kitchen and without a clear leader, Trev was stuck in limbo trying to make it all work. I do wish his dissatisfaction could have been more well-known prior to today. Not that public sentiment would have changed anything, but it could at least help us avoid being embarrassed again had we had a little heads up that there were issues behind the scenes, enough to the point where Trev leaving was a possibility.

  15. 4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

    I’m going to say this, I went from being so excited about husker sports last night to very negative right now. 
     

    I thought we had the bad administration crap behind us. 
     

    We have lost the President, chancellor, and now AD in what, 15 months?  
     

    These  were bad. 

    Fully agree, the one spot we thought we had stability in was with Trev as AD. Instead of getting to enjoy the turnaround stories and programs on the rise, we instead will split focus towards the merry-go-round of administrators and AD candidates. 

     

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  16. Just now, Micheal said:

    If he is worried about leadership issues in the university Texas A&M isn't no perfect place. 

     

    I wouldn't feel super safe being AD there. You think our boosters /regents are crazy. 

    Key difference... he knows who is boss is at A&M and clearly believes in the guy. We apparently don't have a firm vision or leaders in place that instill confidence that the University is set up for success. @knapplc was spot on that the problem lies with the University administration and the Board of Regents. Sad to see it play out as it did today.

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  17. 8 minutes ago, ECisGod said:

    He may have let the powers that be know the lack of clarity is a problem and their lack of response could be the reason he's thinking about leaving.

     

    I've had jobs where I took issues to my boss & nothing happened.  It's really frustrating & part of the reason I no longer work at those places.

    True, though I wish if it was causing a headache, he would've mentioned it more often in his interviews. Not necessarily airing dirty laundry, but simply "we're hopeful to have a President lined up by X date" to spur some action. Today felt like a rug pull out of nowhere, which hopefully it turns out to be a false alarm. 

  18. 10 minutes ago, Micheal said:

    So we think Regents and Interim President and Vice President are in damage control to try and keep him? 

    Absolutely. In reading the OWH article, Ted Carter was one of the key reasons why Trev took the job as Carter was 'a leader he (I) can follow.' Carter announced in August that he was leaving. The Board has not found a replacement, and doesn't sound like they were close to installing anyone permanent. My hunch is that lack of clarity is a key reason Trev is frustrated, though I wish he would've made it more known that it's been a problem. 

  19. 32 minutes ago, Loebarth said:

    anyone able to find and post the clip of the aTm player grabbing a husker players genitals... kind of feels like that's again happening here.

    Ben Cotton wishes you wouldn't, Tony Jerod-Eddie wishes you would. 

  20. 12 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

    A&M is a worse job because of external expectations and booster ego's that compete to run the place. They have very little success in sports because they have 20 mega boosters pulling Athletics in 20 different directions. There's a reason they've never won anything before, it's a pressure cooker without a leader. 

     

    It does pay more than Nebraska and boosters with more money. But he's going to inevitably be fired because TAMU inevitably fires all their ADs.

    Some might say that Nebraska has had similar issues with boosters, administrators, and fans having outsized expectations or ego issues. Outside of volleyball and bowling, it's hard to find any of our programs that have had reasonably sustained success in the past 20 years. A strong argument could be made that A&M has accomplished more than us during that time. Unfortunately, we shot ourselves in the foot with a few coaches who were successful (Solich & Pelini) because of high expectations and it took quite a while for our administrative alignment to fall back into a good place. 

     

    I'm still hopeful that Trev decides to stay and sees the progress through. It's been quite an impressive turnaround within the department, to lose that momentum would suck.

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  21. 2 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

    In all honesty, Texas A&M is a worse job than Nebraska. They have no historical success and the boosters - who run the Athletic Department - expect Alabama success.

     

    Trev is valuable to Nebraska but it's also not a major loss. It'll be interesting on if the pending financial disaster that is the stadium remodel continues to move forward or not. 

    I disagree that losing Trev would be a major loss. As we saw over the past 20+ years, getting the AD position right is vital to success. 

     

    As for A&M being a worse job than Nebraska? Maybe, but it's a totally different dynamic and a whole lot more money. 

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  22. Not sure there would be a good time for any coach or administrator to be poached unexpectedly, but this definitely is unfortunate timing if it turns out to be true. 

  23. 1 minute ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

    I wonder if knee is still an issue

    Probably aches at the very least, still not sure his face is fully recovered from the preseason. That said, most players are sore at his point in the season. So long as they continue playing together and avoiding the Hero ball, we could have a special postseason. 

  24. 3 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

    Mast has 3 rb,  poor effort.

    Not sure it's an effort thing for him as two of the three rebounds are on the offensive end. With Gary & Allick combining for 17, everything seems to be flowing as well as Hoiberg could hope on the rebounding end. 10 offensive boards as a team is pretty solid.

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