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58 minutes ago, Packerhuskerfan said:

The cost of leaving the weaker Big 12.  Not as many wins, loss of Texas recruiting area, but more money in the pockets.  Nebraska was a way better fit for the Big 12.

Staying in the Big 12 may have resulted in a different overall makeup of this year's team, but if this year's team with its current roster and set of coaches had played a big 12 schedule, it likely would have fared even worse.

I'm too lazy to look this up, but could the offensive numbers be skewed by an out-of-the-ordinary number of instances when the team is down one or two scores in the 4th quarter? When a team is down one or two scores in the 4th quarter, the opponent often goes into a "prevent" type of defense that gives up short plays to prevent the big plays. If you get the ball 2 or 3 times in the 4th quarter under those circumstances, you can count on 50 to 100 "easy" yards that likely wouldn't have been gained if the opponent remained aggressive on defense.

In other words, an average offense can post above-average numbers if it has significantly more opportunities against a "prevent" defense.

On the flip side, defensive numbers could also be skewed a bit if a defense never has to play "prevent" defense and the opponent's offense goes "conservative" to avoid an interception.

Sooooo, if my totally unscientific theory is correct, a team can have deceptively good numbers on both sides of the ball if it plays a large number of close games that it loses.

43 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

I know the angry fans hate this argument, but Frost is 11-20 and could very easily be something like 17-14. Riley was 19-19 and very easily could've been 10-28. I really do understand the wins are what counts. But for the long term prognosis it does matter how close/far we are, and Frost has been close to 7-8 wins the past couple years. I get the W/L argument, but I firmly stand by the view that Riley's teams were worse than their record and Frost's have been better.

 

I'm much more confident moving forward with a 2-5 team that advanced stats say is in the 30-40 range than 2016's 9-4 team that was ranked in the 60s. In everything except record we trended down consistently under Riley - the 4-8 team in 2017 was below 100th. I'm not happy about consistent losing seasons under Frost, but the underlying numbers look good and I'm willing to see if that comes to fruition. In any case, do you feel better about being able to solve penalty/turnover mistakes, or figuring out a way to not let a D2 LB run for 200 yards as a QB? We have come a long way, and it sucks that the record doesn't show it. I'm betting it will before long.

 

I wouldn't classify myself as an angry fan, but I do think it's dangerous to evaluate the situation based upon "what could have been." Yes, we have lost many close games, but many of the few games we have won have also been close. Frost's 11-20 could also easily be 7-24. To me, the eye test is important. You can look at historical stats and recruiting rankings 'til you're blue in the face, but if the product you see on the field every week looks the same, it becomes pretty clear that "progress" is just a mirage created by those who want to see Coach succeed. That is human nature. Anyone but Scott Frost would be justifiably on a very hot seat right now. On the other hand, it would not be smart to gamble on catching lightning in a bottle with a new coach without giving it another year or two to see if things get turned around.

20 minutes ago, Born N Bled Red said:

 

Hey I got an idea. Let's you and I both go in for a heart surgery. The crew working on you, is learning on the job they've been there a mix of 1-3 years. The crew working on me has been there mostly 5 years, with a standout or two that has been there 3 or 4 years.

 

Which one of us is more likely to survive?

Or, we could both go in for heart surgery and I could have the crew with 1-3 years experience which has a 95% positive outcome rate and you could have the crew with 5 years experience and a 60% positive outcome rate. My crew was better trained in its 1-3 years than yours was in 5 years. Who is more likely to survive?

Your argument totally ignores the fact that many coaches have gone into "dumpster fire" situations and turned the program around in the first 3 years.

This whole "transparency" argument is ridiculous. Do you really think that the experts who provided the medical information upon which the postponement of the season was based provided that information only to the Big 10 and no one else? That the information they had is some sort of top secret, confidential, not-to-be disclosed false research? The information the Big 10, and the other conferences/organizations had to postpone sports and activities is out there for all of us to see. It's been used by all of the other conferences and organization that decided to postpone activities and mass gatherings. You may not like it or agree with it, but it's there. If "transparency" is code for " tell us who voted against the fall season?," then your quest for transparency has nothing to do with the validity of the decision and everything to do with anger at those who voted to postpone. And why aren't these players also suing the other teams and conferences who canceled and prevented a full slate of nonconference games? Aren't they complicit in this "breach of contract?"

2 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

Nice try Warren

As to credibility on this topic, I'll put my 30 years as a lawyer up against your attempts at humor any day.

1 minute ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Let me give you an example why anything is possible with our joke of a legal system. 

 

Once upon a time someone went to a restaurant- they ordered a hot coffee. They spilled the hot coffee on themselves. They brought a lawsuit against the restaurant for giving them coffee that was too hot. The restaurant was penalized 2.86 million for selling hot coffee.

That had nothing to do with a temporary injunction.

The fact that it's a novel, never-been-tried-before, legally-flawed claim that football players are third-party beneficiaries of a conference contract among 14 universities makes it virtually impossible to get a temporary injunction. They also have necessary party issues because the the member schools made the decision and they are entitled to input in the case and should have been made defendants. Filing this lawsuit and seeking the temporary injunction could easily be deemed frivolous which, in Nebraska, entitles the other party to have their attorney's fees paid for having to defend the frivolous proceedings. I hope these parents are ready to open their pockets to pay the BIG's attorneys. My guess is that Attorney Flood did not mention this aspect of the case as he pursues the publicity that accompanies the lawsuit.

56 minutes ago, Omaha fan said:

If Kevin Warren wasn’t responsible for the big10 not having their protocols and processes in place To play this fall should there be a season, whose responsibility was it? Who other than Kevin was supposed to get that done in the last 5 months? Should that have been the Omaha world herald? University of Iowa? Me? My mom? Kevin’s dog? His secretary? The cafeteria bus boy? Who is supposed to do that?? Who can we pin it on? 

 

Who is responsible for laying out what spring football will look like and how it will be handled safely ? So the players have something they can legitimately look forward to working towards and playing? Nothing, zilch has been communicated because no work had been put into it. 
 

This talk about just being a figurehead is baloney, Jim Delaney led from the front. He put forth his opinion and made things happen, he wasn’t just a ballot counter. Warren was a two faced empty suit at his previous job and I’m not impressed with him at all where he is now. 

Uhhh.... I think he told you exactly who he thought was responsible and your response actually answers your own question. Re-read his post and put some thought into what you've read. He's taking the position that our leaders, political and otherwise, and the general public, all have responsibility for the season being canceled. It's not Kevin Warren's fault that businesses prematurely reopened, public gatherings prematurely resumed, and people refused to wear face masks and appropriately socially distance. Warren is just doing his best to clean up the mess while relying on medical and educational professionals -- the exact people he should be relying upon. The fact that you can't watch your favorite team play football every Saturday is small potatoes compared to the significant health concerns and uncertain long-term impact of the virus.