Nebraska55fan

You don't know what is in the algorithm. Would be extremely difficult to assign some arbitrary number to a play where an early receiver open is passed up or the countless nuances of a game that would take endless hours to analyze. You are making assumptions you can't. YOU are making assumptions to fit your narrative- you don't know all that is what is measured in model. Rules for thee not me again.

Of course- the schedule is the schedule I was just pointing it out I read somewhere YESTERDAY that NU statistically has the #1 most difficult schedule from now until the end of the regular season. Three top 10 teams and no patsies. One would think that tougher teams and no patsies would mean lower numbers. Yes they have looked very good last 5

Well if we are to believe what HCSF said about Yants weight and what Yant said about Yants weight- then the story was Yant wasn't going to be allowed to play much until his weight got to X. When Yant hit X he was given the chance to play significant downs early and often in a must have game. Was he always HCSF's top pick and was just waiting for him to hit the weight threshold that was set? Seems plausible. Held told him to make sure he maintained the loss.

Yep- the second play on this clip is just like what all the other RBs are doing? He runs right over the LB. You watch the game and analyze every play right> That play was posted on a thread you commented on https://www.newschannelnebraska.com/story/44874245/nebraska-dominates-run-game-in-homecoming

Yes, and I hate those 20 yard facemask and roughing calls.

That isn't really true- its a statistical model- and many are skeptical about the results. The model grades plays- no human interface. Misses a deep open route for a TD and throws to the short guy or 5 yard run instead. Yips on an easy throw that could have been a game winning throw. All you need is a TD to win or tie- drive stalls. Clutch plays. Tough to put that into a SAS algorithm. Like everyone Im rooting for him and he looks improved but youre putting the cart before the horse here. https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/3/13/16839982/5-oclock-club-difference-nfl-passer-rating-and-quarterback-rating-redskins-alex-smith-kirk-cousins

It does not take everything into account. There are many nuances to the game that a statistical model will not be able to account for. Missing an opportunity to run early with lots of green and pick up a first down- instead throwing an incompletion or taking a sack. Holding onto the ball long instead of hitting an open receiver early. Making a last possession drive count that can tie or win the game.

I think we can all agree We've already played the 4 worst teams on our schedule- where the numbers would be expected to be higher than most teams right ? We have to play the 4 best defenses on our schedule in the coming 6 games- where the numbers would be expected to be lower than the bottom 4 right ? Or are we living in some alternate universe? Im hoping his numbers come out like the post stated. Also Im expecting our defense to keep us in most of these games so the garbage time numbers thing hopefully doesnt come into play like in years past.

Hopefully so. Michigan is truly impressive in their front 7. Callahan said last night that Teddy is a different guy. When Teddy went to a Nike Camp in East St Louis- the belly of the beast as a skinny 10th grader, that he totally held his own. He was VERY confident and mature. Callahan was very descriptive- he was there. In HS obviously he was way bigger than anyone else, but that actually made i it harder for him- little guys sliding under etc. Now against guys much larger he is doing even better. I always loved his aggressiveness and finishing in HS- he gave no mercy. Hopefully he will be up to the task.

When someone prides themself on extreme accuracy- holding others to that standard and the minutia detail in post after post after post and almost every source had the number at 25- you "round up" for a reason- we all know that.

Same distance to 20 and rounding down isn't it? When you pride yourself on accuracy and holding others to that standard- seems intentional.

My point was- he had 4 teams where he could pad some really big numbers and those kind of teams dont exist on the back end of the schedule. The next 6 games are against significantly better competition than the first 6. THere will be no last/second to last place teams, MAC or Fordham teams left. He has improved and done very well- however saying hes going to amass about 3800 yards 30/4 is a bit much- even for the most positive NU fan.

The first part of our schedule had Illinois, Fordham, Buffalo and Northwestern. We have some pretty stout defenses on our plate from here on out Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin Those numbers would be awesome- but can we really extrapolate the top paragraph 4 opponents to the ones on the bottom- probably not.

Mav Very selective in your data. "Significantly Better" Your words "But many were talking about how bad he was last year when he was actually significantly BETTER than his Freshman year" I think not. His TD/INT was significantly worse last year than Freshman year His YPA was worse last year than Freshman year His QBR was worse last year than Freshman year His rushing yards were worse last year than Freshman year His rushing yards per attempt were worse last year than Freshman year He was benched last year- not his Freshman year STATS 2021 2020 2019 2018 CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD INT LNG RTG 100 150 66.7 1,463 9.8 6 2 70 159.1 108 151 71.5 1,055 7.0 4 3 38 135.0 149 251 59.4 1,956 7.8 10 9 75 130.8 224 347 64.6 2,617 7.5 17 8 75 139.5 Career stats arehttps://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/adrian-martinez-2.html updated nightly

I'm thinking HCSF and the player himself and all the experts know less about how AM was playing than us.

We look at a QBs entire game. That determines wins and losses- not just completion percentage etc YES< he's slimmed down and has that explosiveness back- it's GREAT to see that. And I like him running out of bounds as he has some.

No metric is going to measure the plays he could have made or should have made. We all saw a significantly different AM in 2019 and 2020. The 2021 version is certainly more decisive and similar to the 2018 version than the other years.

Not just the stats He had plenty of opps to run for first downs with plenty of green- he wouldn't. When he would run it was usually too late and he looked slow and indecisive when doing so. That doesn't really show up in stats- but we all saw it if you were watching the games closely with an open mind.

Not everything a QB does can be measured to determine how effective he really is. The QB sack, where he could have thrown out of bounds The inopportune fumble that leads to loss of momentum, points, losing the game Missing a chance to run with plenty of daylight for a first down, instead holding onto the ball for a late sack, late covered throw, or short gain Missing wide open receivers for game winning throws even with time In the clutch being able to get a key first down so your team down the field to secure the win In the clutch being able to lead your team to the tying or winning score on the last possession- I think he is 1-14 in that regard and we haven't gotten a first down in 3 Overtime games. No winning season in 3 1/2 years. So yes, he does a lot of things well and has made progress this season so far. But pure numbers don't tell the entire story. I like how he's trending, time to pull one of these games out.

If anyone is trying to downplay Michigans defense because they haven't had a very difficult schedule so far is missing the mark. Great defense is great defense no matter who you play, it comes out on film- like this. Watched 2 of their games so far- impressive. Like their aggressiveness and pad level.

As you know= Luke never really played a lot of QB until his senior year. Great body control and burst but never a QB. Loved getting brothers- lot of them played like each other so yep, the bloodlines do matter. Lowers your risk a bit.

Makes sense- however how much of that may have been posturing? In 2019 Martinez had no competition- he gained a bunch of weight and by any reasonable metric he regressed. So you create some competition, real or imagined. No one I knew- that knew anything about football was thinking Luke would be an improvement over AM at the QB spot. Secondly we all know Luke was a daddy ball QB, great athlete but no College QB. Maybe part of the strategy was to build Luke up a bit to get him to stick around- in another capacity.

Others have- a good number of times- never said you did. I said " I'm not going to say he's should be a Heisman candidate or NFL QB just yet like some" . To even mention a QB from a 3-3 team and the word Heisman even in speculation is way off. IMO same goes for the NFL at this point. If he can sting together 5 more games like the last 5, that may be a different story. Im certainly hoping that he does. Tired of not going to Bowl games.

Guy Chamberlin Totally agree- and I've seen every game he's played in and cheer every good play he makes. Just because some of us have been critical of his poor play- shortcomings and decision making (many of which have been confirmed by the Coaching Staff or even him), it doesn't mean we don't think that he has talent- isn't a great team mate- isn't a model citizen- isn't the best chance this team has to win etc etc

I said he played " a very good game" What more do you want? Sorry I'm not going to say he's should be a Heisman candidate or NFL QB just yet like some, if that's what you want me to proclaim Im excited to see the ceiling on some new young talent who blew it out on their first time on stage.