TonkaSker

Yeah, Jim Leonhard will assume that program in the next 2-3 years and elevate it. Guy is going to be an absolute star there.

It would be extremely funny if 2-10 was the year we beat Iowa.

Same. Washington and Boise have both come open since he's retired and he didn't bite at either so he must be at peace with his pace of life. Only way I see him coming back to coaching is at the FCS level up in the PNW. Guy's big on pace and family.

Nobody would say no to a guaranteed 10-2 in two years. The issue is that there is absolutely no way that can be guaranteed. Nick Saban couldn't guarantee it.

Dude I am on board that Urban could do it but its hyperbole like this that makes the whole notion sound ridiculous. There are dozens of coaches out there that could do it over a longer timeline than Urban. Could he do it faster than most? Sure, if he's at the gear he was at in 2016. Is he? You and I have no idea. Does he even want to coach? If he does, why here instead of ASU or Auburn? Both easier recruiting jobs. You guys are assuming a ton with no real basis in reality. In whose eyes is trev getting fired before thanksgiving?? Lol this is qanon-level fake insider nonsense.

No, it doesn't. Fickell has been there for six years and has steadily improved their depth. Frost was at UCF long enough to bring in a single recruiting class, essentially. Fickell has had total command of the program for six years, or six classes, or two classes start-to-finish. His second, or this past year's made the playoff and hung with bama about as well as anyone did last year. They lost a ton of pieces to the draft and will take a step back this year, but every program goes through that cycle unless you're Georgia/Alabama/Ohio State and constantly reloading. Honestly, it's healthy cause it means your guys are developing.

This team has significant mental and emotional hurdles they have to overcome before they can beat anyone. None of those games are as winnable as you think.

Well, this program HAS been run like a high school for the better part of a decade so that's not a bad read in hindsight.

There is absolutely no way Trev is losing his job next year unless he commits a crime on the job or there's a massive NCAA violation.

Unless it's Matt Rhule no coach would leave his team prior to the end of the regular season.

I admire your optimism

Easily proven fake. Lotta media illiterate folks out there

I'm pretty positive we have an AD that understands that and doesn't care about short-term popularity. Guy talked non-stop about process improvement in his presser. It's definitely the direction he's going and it's probably the first time that's actually happening around here.

Well said. At this point it's not about this year. By all accounts, if you're on this team you haven't been practicing as much as you've been scrimmaging. The teaching style of this staff prior to letting Frost's guys go was "here's your technique, let's try it at full speed and correct it." I've been around a lot of great coaches and that's not how they operate because that's how you form bad habits. It shows up pretty evidently in tackling, footwork (think QBs and OL), hand placement (think DL/OL), alignment and assignment (LB's overpursing, Dismuke tossing DB's around pre-snap, guy's chasing motion men, being out of position on a 60-yard QB run, OL getting beat on stunts) Firing Chins, Frost, Austin, Mario, and anyone else who's trusted these kids to out-talent the big ten sends them a message that their effort in relearning how to learn is appreciated for the rest of the season and going forward. It's not about this year. These guys understand that. This is a culture-first move. When Trev gets up there and says it's 'about the players' that's what he's talking about. It's not about keeping kids competitive this season, it's about wiping the slate clean and letting someone with championship habits start fresh instead of having to do this in spring ball.

When was the last time a big ten team had success with the option? Honest question, because it makes absolutely zero sense that those are our only two ways back to competitive football. Talented kids don’t want to play for an option offense, they want to play in the NFL.

I don't want the guy cause he's got a ton to prove still but he's the only rising star over there. I've heard a lot of good reviews about his work and teaching habits. Sun Belt has kinda become the coaching cradle conference the MAC was when I was working in football. MAC's really been a victim of recruiting exposure and camp circuits. Used to get some sick QBs that played at small HSes. Big Ben was one of a few dozen.

If you have the blueprint to a Cinderella season there are 128 ADs who are on hold

LSU had a Cinderella season. It only took 8 first round picks grown in their backyard and the most incredible QB development job in history. Auburn also had a Cinderella season. Only took the greatest athlete in CFB history. Nebraska isn’t going to have a Cinderella season. Those don’t exist for us.

Theres one guy in the MAC right now (Sean Lewis) that would fit your criteria but I don’t think you need to go that far. Your larger point is correct though

Curious who some guys ‘like’ Kyle Whittingham are

Lebby’s probably going to Auburn.

Nothing about Kingsbury makes me believe he’s cut out to be a HC. OC? sure. On Rhule, guy is 5-16 in one-possession games since the start of 2020. Seems like he needs a year at the Saban Coaching academy to get his juice back.

Don’t understand the love for Chadwell. Can someone enlighten me? The win/loss seems generous to his skills as a coach and his success seems least likely to translate among anyone that’s been mentioned.

FOLKS, We’ve officially crossed the threshold.

Not arguing against Rhule, I’m a believer. My point was that Iowa State is a far more difficult place to take to that high gear than Baylor. Temple is even easier since every program in the AAC is at risk of losing their coach as soon as they show progress. I see both guys as proven program builders.