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9 hours ago, M.A. said:

Part of it wanting there to be resolution, closure to the ongoing heartache. Our patience has gone to the wayside to a degree. Just give me answers! Another part is the whole mystery of it and attempting to determine whom it will be. We don't have any control of it. We'd like to think so though. 

 

It's not necessarily a "bad" thing. Just demonstrates how passionate we are! It's okay to have differing opinions about our team.

All of this...and it's completely normal for any fanbases who give a crap about their football programs. I've watched several coaching searches pretty closely for several teams over the last few years and all the fans are the same way and go through all the same things we're going through.

10 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Auburn can have him if we can get the Lane Train

I just can't see Lane making the move to Auburn. Seems lateral at best. Unless he's just fed up with Ole Miss and doesn't feel he's getting the administrative support he needs there to be successful. But by all accounts, Auburn wouldn't be the place to go to improve that.

10 hours ago, BIG ERN said:

The longer we wait the more doubts it's Mickey right? If you are going to stick with him then you would announce for recruiting, NIL, transfer portal purposes. IF Trev wants it to be him then you can't wait to get trounced @ Michigan. The earlier the better IMO unless it is someone else then he will wait till day after Black Friday I would think. 

Yeah, common sense would tell you at this point, it's not Mickey. He's had a long enough interview for Trev to make that determination. In fact, IF (big if) there's any truth to the reports that his agent is shopping him around, he may have already been told.

9 hours ago, M.A. said:

Lol The media has about as many good ideas and theories as the general public at large. 

Sometimes fewer. They have to generate clicks and appeal the the masses and sell ads and try to balance all of it with trying to maintain some semblance of credibility. We can just have our own singular stupid ideas and stand by them with no agenda or consequences.

9 hours ago, Hayseed said:

I don't get what all the speculation is about. I can just wait until they tell me what they decided.

Then why click on this thread? Why not just skip it and wait?

8 hours ago, Toe said:

Might as well link the article... https://www.on3.com/teams/nebraska-cornhuskers/news/nebraskas-mickey-joseph-emerges-among-candidates-for-vacant-arizona-state-job/

Hahaha...

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HuskerOnline has confirmed that there has been contact between Joseph’s representation (Atlanta-based law firm Kilpatrick Townsend) and an entity directly tied to ASU’s coaching search.

Joseph’s representation:  "Hey, how about Mickey Joseph?"

Entity tied to ASU’s coaching search:  "Who?"

Joseph’s representation:  "You know, Nebraska's interim."

Entity tied to ASU’s coaching search:  "Never heard of him."

Joseph’s representation:  "Well, he's pretty good."

Entity tied to ASU’s coaching search:  "Really, then why doesn't Nebraska want him?"

Joseph’s representation:  "Well, I mean...some of the fans on the internet do want him."

Entity tied to ASU’s coaching search:  "We'll pass, thanks."

Joseph’s representation:  "But, he..."

Entity tied to ASU’s coaching search:  "CLICK"

Joseph’s representation:  "Hello? Hello?"

1 hour ago, Lorewarn said:

Nobody made that claim chief. 

Little late there brah. Asked and answered.

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

If he brings back Coke I'm 100% on board.

Well, there's something we can agree on.

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

You're mistaken.

 

You said the next head coach needs to be "experienced." You've been pimping Deion since you joined the board. I'm simply, rightly, pointing out that by your criteria, your proffered candidate is not qualified. 

I'm not sure why you're bringing Mickey into this conversation. Mickey's experience, or lack thereof, doesn't qualify Deion by your standard. 

First of all, my post was in response to a post about Mickey in the Mickey thread. I didn't bring Mickey into this conversation, he was already in it. Second, my post specifically mentioned 4 other candidates and alluded to 3 others, and you honed in on Deion. Third, by my definition, and just about everyone else's in the country outside of here, Deion is considerably more experienced than Mickey. There's a reason he's in the top 3-5 names mentioned for every P5 opening and Mickey is not even part of the conversation.

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

You're gonna have to explain this bizarre leap in logic.

What's bizarre about it? I said "an experienced CEO coach who's actually proved to be successful at running a program" which Deion is. It was in the context of as compared to Mickey, which Deion is. You then said Deion is ruled out from that statement because he doesn't have enough experience. I'm just trying to clarify if we're still talking about the context of in comparison to Mickey? Or you just think neither is experienced enough based on your subjective definition of "experienced"?

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

Deion isn't "experienced." He's been a head coach for 2 1/2 seasons at an HBCU. Zero P5 or even G5 experience.

So, just so we're clear, you think Mickey has more experience at running a successful program as a head coach than Deion?

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Which rules out Deion...

How so?

3 hours ago, VectorVictor said:

This. And let’s be honest, there are some posters and boosters that have gone overboard with the anti-Mickey derp. 

I don't know about boosters, but there appear to be far more posters who have gone overboard with the pro-Mickey derp.

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The fact is, there are zero (realistic) slam dunk hires out there this season.

While there are zero sure thing hires ever, there are several who are far closer to being a "slam dunk" than Mickey. Urban, Petersen, Deion, Kiffin, Fickell, to name a few.

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and a lot of mediocre or unproven hires from guys who will have one eye on the exit the whole time they’re here

This is the worst argument ever. You're going to pass on someone who might end up being so great that he has other options and may entertain other options when that day comes? Makes no sense.

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Mickey ticks all of the boxes.

No he doesn't.

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He has a plan and a vision.

So does every single candidate out there. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

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He’s great at recruiting.

He's good at recruiting. Great at recruiting are guys that have put together top classes a few years in a row for an entire team. He hasn't done that yet. He's been a really good regional position coach recruiter.

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He’s saying and doing all the right things as head coach, he’s had a positive impact on this team and their play on the field (along with Busch, even in the Illinois game),

He's saying all the right things. He's not doing all the right things. He's turned diarrhea into a chunky turd.

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and for some of the boosters and purists, he’s a Nebraska man.

This means nothing.

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Why not hire Mickey, make him a CEO coach (a la Mack Brown), and go use our B1G money to get the best OC and DC out there that aligns with the vision he has? 

Why not hire an experienced CEO coach who's actually proved to be successful at running a program, and go use our B1G money to get the best OC and DC out there that aligns with the vision he has?

I'm actually higher on keeping Mickey than this post would indicate. I agree that once we get past the top candidates, then we might as well give Mickey a shot. But I don't know why you're just ready to skip over getting those 8 or so guys (I think we identified about 8 names that would be much better in some earlier posts) and settle for him?

28 minutes ago, admo said:

And I am afraid it will be Bill O'Brien that gets the job.

And I’m afraid if that happens, we’re right back here in 3-5 years having this conversation all over again.

10 minutes ago, admo said:

It's all about keeping the bright lights shining on Nebraska.....  meaning, we are exactly like the Dallas Cowboys. 

 

Half the country loves us, Half the country hates us and laughs.  But every year both team coaches, players, fan bases and media expect us to play for Championships.  Well, what have you done recently to get there ?

 

The 1990's was so long ago.  Time to start from scratch.  Burn it down and rebuild.  Maybe keep Mickey around in some aspect, I don't know.  

 

Nebraska Huskers, Dallas Cowboys.  Same thing.  

We wish we were as relevant as the Dallas Cowboys. I don't think half the country loves us or hates us, I think most of the country doesn't even think about us.

3 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Chadwell won't get a lot of love because: Gof5, offensive mind with a great QB -  the wounds are too fresh. But I like the guy too. 

Yeah I hear you. Like him but he’s not moving any needles. He’s a hope and a prayer type. So we’re down to Urban or Deion? Works for me 

7 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Here is one example from just a few months ago. Does Petersen sound like he wants to get back in coaching?

 

https://footballscoop.com/news/chris-petersen-opens-up-about-why-he-left-coaching-i-didnt-have-a-great-game-plan-for-my-life

Yeah honestly he might be the least likely and worst fit of the bunch.

4 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Do guys like Stoops, Peterson, Urban and Prime need a huge pay raise? Urban gets 10 mil a year to sit a FOX desk. Peterson and Stoops got out of the game for a reason and aren't hurting for money. Deion is coaching his kid and is already worth millions. Guys like Kiffin, Aranda, Mark Stoops, Gundy - maybe we could get them a slight raise but their schools will get close to matching. The only guys getting a huge pay raise to come here are Gof5 coaches. 

I think Bob Stoops is done. Urban and Petersen, if they want to coach again, why not NU? Deion, yeah he takes P5 level resources all day. He’s on record saying that. His kid can come with him and start immediately and have a better heisman shot. Rhule is probably landing somewhere.

Sorry, but until I see otherwise, I think we have a shot to make a splash hire. And we need one badly. A lot of people around here don’t think we need one, but they’re delusional.

Agree on the rest. Lateral move or worse for most of them. I wouldn’t sleep on Chadwell either though.

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

Here's an honest question regardless of if you're for or against hiring Mickey as HC: Would any other coach that was placed in the same situation as Mickey as interim HC have done any better?

Heres another honest question. Will Mickey Joseph’s name even enter the conversation to be the head football coach at a single other blue blood, P5, or even FBS program?

16 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Well I have not seen any indication that the first 3 are willing to come out of retirement and have interest in Nebraska.  Have you seen anything showing they have interest?

I’ve seen as much indication that they do want to coach again as I’ve seen that they don’t.

1 hour ago, Jason Sitoke said:

Trev should hold all interviews in front of a wall, and if he doesn’t run through said wall within 2 minutes of talking with the candidate, he should end the interview abruptly and throw the candidate through this same wall. 

I like it. I think you should be on the hiring committee. Hell I might even join you. Wait…we talkin drywall or brick?

18 minutes ago, Decked said:

Insert “he’s right you know” Morgan freeman gif here

But, like…Brinks trucks and stuff. I thought we could back them up and make them say no and all that? No?

Are we that bad that we really can’t get get a top name? I think we can. And I’m not gonna believe otherwise until it’s final.

You don’t think at least one of them takes a huge pay raise? I do. I think there’s a a handful of names who can save this thing and I think one of them takes the offer.

18 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Assuming we will not land big names thrown around like Bob Stoops, Chris Peterson, Urban Meyer, and Deion Sanders, here is who I would like to see Nebraska target in no particular order:

 

• Kalen DeBoer-I am still a huge fan of his and he is in his first season at Washington.  He has the second best win-loss record of any active coach who has been head coach for more than 50 games.
• Chris Klieman-He is moving up my list.  He beats a ranked team 48-0 without his starting QB. Pretty impressive.
• Mark Stoops-He may finish the year 8-4 but he has made Kentucky a reliable and consistent program in the SEC
• Lane Kiffin-He has gotten better and better with each coaching move.  The risk with him is that he may not stay long.
• Kyle Whittingham-Very unlikely to leave at his age but he has been very consistent for many years

 

https://www.coacheshotseat.com/WinningestActiveCoachesIA.htm

 

Why would you assume that?

4 hours ago, Ggodd002 said:

I don’t understand the love for prime.  What has he really done to earn him a place beside urban or other top names?   A couple years at a low division football?   I have no interest in his personality.    We need a proven coach.  A proven recruiter.   Someone that has proven to be able to turn teams around with time  we need a guy who can get us to 8-10 wins in 5 years and then be consistent at that level

Hahaha ruined your whole speech.

3 hours ago, The Whale said:

Frost's hire was a huge deal at the time, and we got TONS of media. Show me where the "gold" from that event is being stored.

3 hours ago, The Whale said:

Deion has no coaching mentors, he hasn't put in the grind. Where was he an assistant coach? High school doesn't count. I believe Deion will get a HC job at a Division I program after this season, and odds are that he will fail spectacularly.

 

MJ would be and is, at least twice as qualified as Deion for this particular job, and MJ isn't even a fit.

Is this a bit? Trolling? My sarcasm meter is broken? You can’t possibly be serious.