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If anything, Curtis should want to come here because he would compete and VERY likely receive major reps from day 1.

Don't we have more than one WR for the 2010 class? I thought Tyler Evans was reportedly going to start at WR, while while Carter and Enunuwa have been rumored to do the same? And we are still trying to get Hill.

I don't think UT is invincible by any means. What makes this harder than the stats suggest is that their offense appears to have improved since OU, while we've more regressed since the begining of the year. But there's nothing wrong with having hope. Find a way to rattle McCoy and they are definitely beatable.

Well, we'd have to see how they develop. But we'd certainly off to a good start.

You are correct sir!

I think the offense thing can be spun a couple ways. Yeah, he can catch balls at Mizzou but he’ll have to compete with all those players already there catching them. I think we would throw it a lot too if we had guys out there catching them. Don’t forget what our offense has been the last couple years. Pedersen, Swift, and Nunn all had plenty of ball thrown their way.

I don't think Watson is going anywhere for a while. He certainly hasn’t increased his stock much with our performance this year. Plus, the only place I see offering him for the foreseeable future is a mid major. Understandable if he would prefer to be at a major program where he is basically left alone vs. taking on a HCing gig at a school like this.

I thought Barney was a pretty well regarded OL coach in the profession?

That had to have very scary for his family.

I think Terry's switch had a lot to do with his dad being a former player there. Unfortunate, but best of luck to him. Minus the one week out of the year of course.

for that matter, why give scholarships to any white kids from nebraska? after all, they all love us enough to pay their own way. we are wasting valuable scholarships on guys like o'hanlon, crick, henery, ty steinkuhler, todd peterson, etc.? someone forward this idea to TO immediately! either pelini is purposefully sabotaging this class or barney has something on him, because there's no way the 6'7 son of an NFL lineman (and brother of a promising young tight end) could have any where near the athletic ability of kids that put together video tapes and go to camps. Sarcasm aside, you are suggesting he may not be that bad of a prospect and comes from a good football family. This is true, and for all i know he may indeed be a good prospect. But if so, why haven't we heard of him before now? As stated, he comes with a good pedigree and his father is even the OL coach at a major D1 football program. I find it hard to believe lack of exposure is the problem here. More likely there have been plenty of people that have seen him play, just that none of them came away very impressed with his abilities. I can't say he's a poor prospect anymore than you can guarantee he's a good prospect - all we can do is go off the information at hand. And to me that suggests that this offer is a shaddy one. Obviously, i would love for Jake to come here and prove me wrong about this. The comment about NCAA rules violations is interesting. Maybe the only way the staff could put him on the team was to put him on scholly. I’d be less critical in this situation, but still not happy about using a scholly in a limited year for an offer like this. Also, I thought coaches sons have walked onto the football program at other places. in addition to the possible reasons i already listed above about why we may not have heard of him, you might also consider the possibility that recruiting services (as well as coaching staffs) are not omniscient, particularly when a kid plays for a low profile school. even moreso when that kid has a huge late growth spurt that increases his potential dramatically. as far as the offer beign shady, what do you mean by that? did you intend to say confusing or baffling or do you actually think something nefarious is afoot? you're correct that you and i can't make any definitive statements on this kid's ability to play football, but it does seem obvious that people can only believe one of two things: either that the coaching staff feels this kid displays athletic potential deserving of a scholarhship or that they are purposefully taking a kid with lesser potential (presumably due to nepotism). if you, or anyone else, believes the second option, then i dont think you understand bo pelini. that man seemingly wants to win as much or more than any coach we've had. we've had coaches sons walk on in the past and at least one (ben cotton) get a scholarship (apparently with good reason). i think it's obvious that the difference is talent. just like every other offer, they go to the kids the coaches think can be significant contributors. if you at least agree that the coaching staff sees something in this kid, the question becomes whether or not they are correct. as others have said, we won't know the answer for a few years. but, to this point, i'm willing to trust our staff's ability to evaluate prospects more than i trust recruiting services (or even other schools) to first find and then properly evaluate every player. for what it's worth, i wouldn't mind grayshirting this kid, or any other lineman that could use a year to develop and is willing and able to do so. also, NCAA rules are unlikely to have anything to do with it. adam watson and austin cassidy are both current walk-ons. I’m not worried about rivals or scout lack of stars. Supposedly he didn’t play the game with them so they didn’t evaluate him. I can believe that. What troubles me is that this offer literally came out of nowhere. It appears nobody was expecting this, there had not been any rumblings about his performances at past NU camps, etc. Usually a good prospect in the state of NE attracts these things, and I would think especially so when his family is very prominent with the NU athletic department. By shaddy, I mean at least baffling for the reasons listed above. Take the white, NE part out of the equation. Say this is just some kid from Mississippi or Wyoming – wherever you like. Woudn’t it seem strange to offer a kid from these areas nobody has ever heard, and whose biggest interest to date had been mostly DII schools? For me, this has nothing to do with “hating” on NE kids. Imagine a politican awarding a very important and highly lucrative contract to some small engineering firm nobody has ever heard of. Seems strange yes? Now imagine the owner of this firm is related to the politician. In such a situation wouldn’t we all question the honesty of what is going on? To me, similar questions arise with this offer. I don’t doubt Bo wants to win, but I suspect part of Bo’s management style is not to micromanage his assistants. I can see them having a lot of leeway in determining players they want and making offers. Could be a situation where Bo trust Barney to choose his OL, but Barney is not being impartial enough when he looks at his own son. Something like this is what I fear. so you question either the honesty of the staff or bo's ability to prevent his employees from pulling a fast one on him. got it. Essentially. Again, hope i'm wrong.

for that matter, why give scholarships to any white kids from nebraska? after all, they all love us enough to pay their own way. we are wasting valuable scholarships on guys like o'hanlon, crick, henery, ty steinkuhler, todd peterson, etc.? someone forward this idea to TO immediately! either pelini is purposefully sabotaging this class or barney has something on him, because there's no way the 6'7 son of an NFL lineman (and brother of a promising young tight end) could have any where near the athletic ability of kids that put together video tapes and go to camps. Sarcasm aside, you are suggesting he may not be that bad of a prospect and comes from a good football family. This is true, and for all i know he may indeed be a good prospect. But if so, why haven't we heard of him before now? As stated, he comes with a good pedigree and his father is even the OL coach at a major D1 football program. I find it hard to believe lack of exposure is the problem here. More likely there have been plenty of people that have seen him play, just that none of them came away very impressed with his abilities. I can't say he's a poor prospect anymore than you can guarantee he's a good prospect - all we can do is go off the information at hand. And to me that suggests that this offer is a shaddy one. Obviously, i would love for Jake to come here and prove me wrong about this. The comment about NCAA rules violations is interesting. Maybe the only way the staff could put him on the team was to put him on scholly. I’d be less critical in this situation, but still not happy about using a scholly in a limited year for an offer like this. Also, I thought coaches sons have walked onto the football program at other places. in addition to the possible reasons i already listed above about why we may not have heard of him, you might also consider the possibility that recruiting services (as well as coaching staffs) are not omniscient, particularly when a kid plays for a low profile school. even moreso when that kid has a huge late growth spurt that increases his potential dramatically. as far as the offer beign shady, what do you mean by that? did you intend to say confusing or baffling or do you actually think something nefarious is afoot? you're correct that you and i can't make any definitive statements on this kid's ability to play football, but it does seem obvious that people can only believe one of two things: either that the coaching staff feels this kid displays athletic potential deserving of a scholarhship or that they are purposefully taking a kid with lesser potential (presumably due to nepotism). if you, or anyone else, believes the second option, then i dont think you understand bo pelini. that man seemingly wants to win as much or more than any coach we've had. we've had coaches sons walk on in the past and at least one (ben cotton) get a scholarship (apparently with good reason). i think it's obvious that the difference is talent. just like every other offer, they go to the kids the coaches think can be significant contributors. if you at least agree that the coaching staff sees something in this kid, the question becomes whether or not they are correct. as others have said, we won't know the answer for a few years. but, to this point, i'm willing to trust our staff's ability to evaluate prospects more than i trust recruiting services (or even other schools) to first find and then properly evaluate every player. for what it's worth, i wouldn't mind grayshirting this kid, or any other lineman that could use a year to develop and is willing and able to do so. also, NCAA rules are unlikely to have anything to do with it. adam watson and austin cassidy are both current walk-ons. I’m not worried about rivals or scout lack of stars. Supposedly he didn’t play the game with them so they didn’t evaluate him. I can believe that. What troubles me is that this offer literally came out of nowhere. It appears nobody was expecting this, there had not been any rumblings about his performances at past NU camps, etc. Usually a good prospect in the state of NE attracts these things, and I would think especially so when his family is very prominent with the NU athletic department. By shaddy, I mean at least baffling for the reasons listed above. Take the white, NE part out of the equation. Say this is just some kid from Mississippi or Wyoming – wherever you like. Woudn’t it seem strange to offer a kid from these areas nobody has ever heard, and whose biggest interest to date had been mostly DII schools? For me, this has nothing to do with “hating” on NE kids. Imagine a politican awarding a very important and highly lucrative contract to some small engineering firm nobody has ever heard of. Seems strange yes? Now imagine the owner of this firm is related to the politician. In such a situation wouldn’t we all question the honesty of what is going on? To me, similar questions arise with this offer. I don’t doubt Bo wants to win, but I suspect part of Bo’s management style is not to micromanage his assistants. I can see them having a lot of leeway in determining players they want and making offers. Could be a situation where Bo trust Barney to choose his OL, but Barney is not being impartial enough when he looks at his own son. Something like this is what I fear.

for that matter, why give scholarships to any white kids from nebraska? after all, they all love us enough to pay their own way. we are wasting valuable scholarships on guys like o'hanlon, crick, henery, ty steinkuhler, todd peterson, etc.? someone forward this idea to TO immediately! either pelini is purposefully sabotaging this class or barney has something on him, because there's no way the 6'7 son of an NFL lineman (and brother of a promising young tight end) could have any where near the athletic ability of kids that put together video tapes and go to camps. Sarcasm aside, you are suggesting he may not be that bad of a prospect and comes from a good football family. This is true, and for all i know he may indeed be a good prospect. But if so, why haven't we heard of him before now? As stated, he comes with a good pedigree and his father is even the OL coach at a major D1 football program. I find it hard to believe lack of exposure is the problem here. More likely there have been plenty of people that have seen him play, just that none of them came away very impressed with his abilities. I can't say he's a poor prospect anymore than you can guarantee he's a good prospect - all we can do is go off the information at hand. And to me that suggests that this offer is a shaddy one. Obviously, i would love for Jake to come here and prove me wrong about this. The comment about NCAA rules violations is interesting. Maybe the only way the staff could put him on the team was to put him on scholly. I’d be less critical in this situation, but still not happy about using a scholly in a limited year for an offer like this. Also, I thought coaches sons have walked onto the football program at other places.

i dunno why he couldn't have just walked on. Maybe cause Barney won't be here next year?

Best of luck to him. BC is a good school.

I'm with those that are puzzled. It's not just a question. Even if he is a good prospect, why hand out a scholly to someone you could have for free? Hawkins is struggling because he has trouble managing CU with his son on the roster. Barney may be doing something similar and if so, Bo will pay the price for it.

With Vestal, Ashburn, Rome and now Guy, Okuyemi that's a lot of DL. Is there a chance one of these players could move to LB?

Being from Illinois and with Zook at UI, i would expect this to be a tough battle for him.

Darn. I was really hoping to get Sasser or Swiggert.

I don’t know that all the heat the receivers are getting is fair. Lee’s passes are often high and/or behind. As a receiver, I would imagine it’s hard to run your route when you are always guessing where the ball is going to be coming out you. And similarly, I don’t think that Lee is as bad as has been said. His passes aren’t perfect, but the receivers aren’t helping him out much. Imo, the timing is just not there right now which is making everyone look worse than they really are.

Honestly, i don't think we are in any position to say what is going. The visits by Reece and Wright came completely out of left field. I get the impression even the recruiting services are very much in the dark about our recruiting. Whatever is going on, good or bad, only the coaches seem to know.

Yeah, I have no clue. He also talked about how was surprised just how much Nebraska threw the ball. A lot of people around the country still think we play the triple option?!?!? Apparently our opponents do too. ULL was yet another sunbelt team that stacked the box against the run. That comment about the cold makes me wary of the Arizona schools.

Either way, it's a very long drive. Too far for a quick weekend trip to see family and pretty expensive with gas. If he is interested in Miami, i'd say the family explanation is sham.

Sounds like a pretty big weekend. Is there a comprehensive list of the recruits who will be at the game?

If something happens to either Helu or Burkhead we are in big trouble. I'd say getting a decent back in this class is imperative.