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I don't think this is about control. Michigan has seen their cases climb since the last week of February. I think the B1G is taking a let's wait and see approach. It's only March. A lot can change between now and September. There are still a lot of unknowns with regards to the different vaccines and the variants.

Do you have anything to back up the bolded? Maybe, a better question would by why are we heading into year four so young? We are young and inexperienced. Why, as we enter year four? Are we still going to be using this excuse as we head into year six or seven?

I agree with you that the majority of those listed could rise back into upper-mid elite status. However, there are two that stick out like a sore thumb. One in particular with regards to recruiting hotbed. For all the parity we hear about in college football, isn't it amazing that year in and year out it's almost exactly the same teams in the playoffs? I'm just hopeful we can become more of a force in the West.

Isn't that Nebraska's MO? The exact same could be said about Solich. Had we fired him the year before we did, we more than likely wouldn't have had to endure the Clownahan years. Michigan and Nebraska are in the same boat. They have both hired their saviors, but it hasn't exactly panned out. Harbaugh is further along at Michigan than Frost is here which makes it very interesting to see what they do the next couple of years.

So, was Bill Snyder just that good; just that lucky; or a combination of the two? His recruitment of high school players was typically at or right at the bottom of the Big 12 which really shouldn't surprise anyone considering Manhattan, KS is roughly the same size as Grand Island, NE. However, they ranked near or at the top with JuCo recruiting. KState had some pretty decent seasons with those JuCo players. It takes a special coach to not only identify JuCo talent but to also cultivate that said talent within their program. I don't see a future where Nebraska is successful trying to bring in elite high school players into the program. It's going to take a mixture and more than likely a heavy mixture of JuCo players to get us where we want to go.

Your prediction is more than likely correct. However, I'm not sure Moos can really be found at fault here. He landed the two coaches that almost all fans and boosters wanted. Can he really be held accountable if/when they don't pan out? Considering we don't know all the in's and out's of ducking OU, I'm not sure he really is at fault. Who even knows if it was his idea? It would appear to me that he is doing everything within his power to make sure his coaches do succeed.

To the bolded: this is a really bad take. It is true that OU fell on hard times. It is also true that when the Big 12 was formed they didn't have to play us every year. However, they didn't vote the way they did to duck us. They did it so that they would play Texas every year. The same Texas where a lot of their talent comes from. Other than the history, what exactly did they have to gain by playing Nebraska every year? Absolutely nothing. When was the last time OU recruited a Nebraska high school player? Nebraska did themselves zero favors with regards to recruiting when they left the Big 12. We should be trying to schedule Texas and A&M annually. Back to the topic at hand. This is probably the lowest we have fallen in my lifetime. At first, I didn't really think much about the transfers of some of our better players. Now, I'm beginning to wonder if there aren't a lot more problems within the program than I originally thought. I know I've asked this before, but how many top notch coaches suffered through as many miserable seasons as Frost has before turning the corner into an elite program? Has there ever been any?

Just icing on the cake. All jokes aside, Bohl is getting a bit long in the tooth for the rebuild here (62). Plus, he has a losing record at Wyoming whereas the Bobfather won 75% of his games there. We've dinked around long enough playing musical chairs with coaches. It's high time we stick with one. As we go into the future, it appears there will be more and more money involved in college football. The teams that have stability will be the ones that are successful.

And he's currently at Wyoming?

I have no idea. It's why I asked.

I'm just not sure a bowl game will be a fun experience for the players considering the covid protocols and the amount of lockdowns. Depending on which bowl, their parents might not even be able to attend. A bowl game this year more than likely will be viewed by most players as just another game in a strange, weird season. I hope they do make a bowl, but I doubt the experience will be viewed as fun for most.

You might be on the right path, but I don't think it plays out this way. First of all, there's not a snowballs chance Bo would have stayed for the long haul under Solich as DC. He had aspirations of being a HC all along. If Solich were to retire here, I'd say it's a lot more likely that either Turner Gill or Bo replaces Solich after he retired as long as Solich didn't stay too long because Bo more than likely bolts by 2010 or before. I'm not sure about currently being in the Big 12 either. If memory serves me right, TO was the AD when we joined the B1G. I'm guessing no matter what we're still in the B1G.

1. Frost ended up at Stanford because Bill Walsh recruited him to play QB there. TO may have been great at a lot of things, but putting QBs in the NFL wasn't one of them. If one has aspirations of playing QB in the NFL, it was a no brainer. You go play under the coach that had won three Super Bowls. 2. He didn't suck at Stanford. Walsh retired in 94'. Frost was a two year letterman while at Stanford. 3. I'm not exactly sure what Frost had to do with Prince William's wife. If you are going to throw $hit against the wall, at least try and make an effort to at least come close (Kate McEwen btw). It must be some powerful stuff you're smoking if you're going to try and lay blame on Frost for Lawrence Phillips's life. I'm not going to comment on any of the rest because I really don't have any knowledge of it. After reading a lot of what you posted, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't either.

Which part? I think it was reported this last weekend that Texas was proceeding with Herman because Meyer had turned them down.

With Urban Meyer, I do believe past performance is indicative of future results. He didn't take his dream job at Notre Dame because they just didn't have the talent that Florida did. I don't want to take away from Urban Meyer that he isn't a great coach, but he only takes jobs where the talent is already there. Does this sound anything even remotely close to what Nebraska is? If the rumors are true that he turned Texas down, there's not a snowballs chance in he11 he'd ever take the job here. I don't follow Texas recruiting at all. Maybe they just don't have the talent he thinks he needs to win. However, I am surprised he turned them down considering the Big 12 is a weak conference. The SEC wasn't nearly the dominant force when Urbs took the Florida job. The B1G wasn't near the conference it is today when he took the Ohio State job. The Texas job seemed like a slam dunk, and he turned them down.

This is what I'm thinking as well. Now, let's tie this back to football. How many coaches have started out at their respective schools with three losing seasons in a row that now are seeing sustained success?

I would have thought a guy getting ejected from two games would have not received any post season honors. 2020 has been a really strange year.

I don't think we lost because we threw it 30 times either. My point is most teams pass more when they fall behind especially late in the game. The Minnesota game almost felt like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Instead of taking what the defense gives, we just kept throwing the ball with one incomplete pass followed by another. Is this what was meant when it was said the B1G might have to adjust to us?

What do all of these games have in common? We lost them all. Does it surprise you at all we threw it 30 times late in November when we lost 27-0?

Neither one of these guys are coming here. We fired Bo. Wasn't Bo Stoops best man? That bridge was burnt a while back. Urbs potentially is capable of the turn around we need, but he hasn't done that since his days at Bowling Green and then Utah. Florida was absolutely stacked with talent when he took the head coaching job. It's why he chose Florida over his dream job of Notre Dame. There was only one season between Tressel and Urbs at Ohio State. Tressel left the cupboard very well stocked. Plus, Urbs has had health issues. He isn't coming here. I can't think of a single coach out there that I would feel relatively comfortable with the ability to turn this thing around. We've tried the ex-NFL guy. It didn't work. We tried one of the hottest coordinators. We fired him. We tried the poor man's Bill Snyder. We fired him. Now, we've tried the 2017 Home Depot Coach of the year. Thus far, it hasn't been pretty; and we've fired others for doing better. There just isn't a slam dunk hire out there.

One of the bolded doesn't seem to fit the rest. Rust Belt vs. SE. I'm not sure why everyone bags on Harbaugh and claims he can't coach considering he not only resurrected Stanford's program, but he also resurrected a San Francisco team that hadn't made the playoffs a single time in the decade before him. Yet, he's struggling at Michigan and might lose his job. Bob Stoops made a lateral move years ago as DC for KState to DC for Florida. He was tired of working 14-16 hour days under Snyder. While he was at Florida, he rarely missed his 3:00 tee time. Recruiting is much easier in those parts. The long hours and grind just aren't necessary. There have been some really mediocre coaches win a NC at some of those schools you mentioned. I'm looking at you Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron. Nebraska and Michigan are in similar waters. Both have brought back coaches to their alma mater that had previous success at other programs. Michigan is in year 6 while Nebraska is in year 3. Both have been trying to hire "slam dunk" coaches for well over a decade. Thus far, it hasn't worked. I actually don't see a "slam dunk" hire that either could make right now.

I think we're trying to lay blame at the wrong generation. To the bolded, those responsible would happen to be their parents. It's my generation that really is to blame. I'm in my mid-40's, and my generation is totally to blame. While I am not a teacher, I have family that have been in the business for quite some time. They've all told me that about 15 years or so ago parents went from disciplining their children when they screwed up at school to blaming the teachers when their children screwed up at school. My generation has taught their children that nothing is ever their fault. If they don't succeed, it's always someone else's fault. We reap what we sow.

OK, then what about Smothers? Are we just completely screwed for the next several years because of the QB position?

BC might be a heck of an OL coach in the NFL, but that doesn't mean he would be in college. I seem to remember Zac Taylor getting pummeled on nearly every drop back pass. In the NFL, there really isn't a lot of development left to be had. Once you are at that level, you pretty much have technique down to a science. College is different. You are taking guys all over the spectrum in terms of where they are at technique wise. One of BC's biggest downfalls here was he couldn't develop talent. He was pretty good at recruiting it, but not so good at development.

Back when it was being decided how many years a high school player needed to be removed from their senior year before they could go pro, it was heavily discussed by position groups with NFL GM's and coaches. The only position group that most NFL people agreed upon that could make the leap from high school to the pros was the WR position. It is mind boggling why our young receivers aren't making more of an impact.