Jeremy

Being at the game, and seeing it in person, one thing that stuck out was this: Thomas Fidone. I didn't realize that kid was so big - for whatever reason, I couldn't see it on TV before. Wherever he lines up, the guy in front of him is literally out-manned significantly. Is it crazy to thing that a 6-10 yard curl would be nearly automatic? He could basically box-out the defender, and the QB (HH or JS) just throw it chest level. Pitch and catch. 

At this point, we don't really have any real difference-makers, no real edge on offense. We can't run it real well, and we definitely aren't a huge threat passing downfield.  Fidone, however, could be a problem for defenses. Not that we should force it, but he would pull defenders away from places they would probably rather be, opening up other receivers, or setting up running lanes.

Rhule mentioned the need for developing offensive linemen. I like to hear that

If Mickey beats iowa, I would be okay with Trev picking him.

O'Brien would be incredibly underwhelming. Bama fans can't wait to get rid of him, and the end of his Houston stint was a Callahan-level disaster. No thanks. 

Traylor is a name I didn't expect to see. He has used the QB run game to great effect, so that would be interesting. I honestly think he could make that work in the B1G, but he'd have to flip the OL quickly. 

A Bronco hire would destroy what little is left of Nebraska football. 

2 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

And if I remember correctly Brook Berringer was going to get drafted in the first rd which was reported until the plane crash. 

I'm not sure about that - I don’t know who had him on their draft board at the time. 

1 minute ago, Hayseed said:

It wasn't our fault that everyone ahead of us in the rankings choked and the game fell to us. None of us thought that should've happened.

I completely agree, like said, it's just the perception nationally.

1 minute ago, RedDenver said:

Oh, I don't care to argue with you because you're not going to change your mind no matter what. But I was amused that someone who is so invested in TO's offense didn't remember Fryar.

You have a point. I should have definitely remembered one of the triplets, for sure. 

16 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Thats not success since we lost lol

We were a laughingstock after we were destroyed by Colorado, didn't even play for a conference title, and still ended up playing for the title, where Miami beat us up.

The win over Oklahoma was nice, though. 

4 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

Hey im down with all of that. We did do some Brewington lead blocker QB power when Scott was here and also a few times early on we ran QB counter where the HB ran lead block. I cant remember if it was QB or HB counter but Riley had something working with that for a minute. I dont think adding those things will exclusively help a ton since we have had years with good offense running wildly different schemes here. We just need a good HC to make sure every part of the program is effective and manage the roster properly. With a coach like that a lot of schemes will probably work.  I think Rhule is definitely that type of coach if we can land him. 

 

Also I know it seems bad now because he got boat raced at home but Leipold runs all of the stuff everyone is asking for. They run 12, 21, and 22 personnel, and when you watch the games the oline makes nice alleys in the run game and their #1 back has been tearing it up. Their talent rating is 71st which never tells the whole story but if your base talent is that low sometime the 6th rated roster in the country is gonna just push you around. 

Leipold would be alright. I'd definitely take him over O'Brien.

2 minutes ago, admo said:

Leading candidates (not in order)

 

Leipold KU  (not gonna happen)

 

 

Jeff Monken Army  (could happen)

 

 

Bill O'Brien (odds on favorite)

 

 

 

 

Go big red... 

God help us if it's O'Brien...

Ugh.

6 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Ok we lost numerous conference championship that doesn't mean we having had success. I think for you its the end all be all. If you ain't winning then there is no success and that is flat out wrong.

I don't necessarily consider winning a conference championship to be the only measure of success, but the rest of the country absolutely sees it that way. 

We went on in 99 to destroy a pretty good Tennessee squad with Eric Crouch and power-option football. Since then, nationally, we haven't accomplished much.

1 minute ago, RedDenver said:

It does matter who the next HC is because we can spend the next 2 seasons sucking and rebuilding to get better or not rebuilding and continuing to suck. We all have our wild a$$ guesses, but no one knows which HC and assists will rebuild vs continue sucking.

 

x1000

 

Irving Fryar

I stand corrected. But what offense did we run then...?

Just now, Huskerfollower4life said:

Thats a lie we won a conference championship with Zac Taylor or did that not happen???

Nope.

We played an Oklahoma team that really wasn't great in 06 and Taylor threw 3 interceptions. We lost, 21-7.

31 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

How did i get sucked into this nonsense with yall again. One team not having success does not negate any other number of schools having success.  Meanwhile you still have 0 examples of what yall want actually working.

We haven't had success since 1999. When we were a power-option team. Boom.

1 minute ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

And yet Wisky managed a whole 15 points vs a bad defense with some pretty good HBs, and both TDs scored by the QB. I dont understand where yall are seeing a good p5 offense that runs what yall want and having actual success on offense with it. 

How much success are we having?

3 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

I'm all abroad the Craig Bohl train y'all.  It's roomy in here.  Jump on in!!!

I was just thinking about him. Getting a Wyoming guy worked once, didn't it?

6 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

You honestly think that if Nebraska went back to bully ball with the option we be winning? Those coaches you named would bring us back from the blink of disaster, I certainly don't think so not at all. 

Absolutely I do. We have NEVER landed a kid that ended up as a first round QB or WR. We never will. 

Well, I'll qualify that - if we got Urban, maybe. 

Since Pedey pulled that trigger in 03, how many coaches tried to recruit how many QBs and receivers, and what has been the result. Why do we keep trying different spread/passing offenses when we can't recruit for it? What if we had a coach that told Benhart to drive block most plays? I think he could do it. 

Wouldn't it be nice to push other teams around instead of getting pushed around?

5 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

That's true with your first part but defenses aren't built to stop the option bc coaches have figured out the way to stop it. Once coaches figure how to stop a certain offenses they move to the next? 

The good thing about the Flexbone is that while the option is the main feature, there are several other ways to counter and attack defenses, especially with play-action. The safeties everyone is raving about coming screaming toward the LOS, and a wing or TE is wide open behind them

2 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

So what's your point? They don't suck..........or we should consider them either way I dont give a damn lmao. Jk of course 

Monken or Calhoun would bring the Nebraska brand of football back very quickly 

21 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Yeah I just think that if you play a great defense that can defend the option your screwed bc you really don't have much else to lean on to try to move the ball to get yards.

If anyone plays a great defense, they struggle to move the ball. Defenses today aren't built to stop power option football. They're built to stop the spread. 

What I wouldn't give to play bully-ball against conference opponents again instead of patty-cake and getting pushed around...

20 minutes ago, Husker816 said:

I get it alot of the fan base participates in military cosplay. Monken sucks he plays an extremely soft schedule and still manages to lose to teams like Uconn & Ball State. You can't run the option today, linebackers run like WRs & Safeties have range of the whole field. Way different story in the 90s. 

Bullcrap. Navy just beat ranked UCF with FAR inferior athletes. Air Force was bowl eligible a month ago. Army just beat up bowl eligible UConn. The service academies can't really recruit, yet have won 11 games multiple seasons the last decade. What we've tried to do the last 20 years doesn't work. 

A few things Mickey's wife has put on twitter recently leads me to believe it won't be Mickey. She's cryptic to be sure, but it's obvious she isn't happy about something that's happened in the last couple days.

I'd say the sooner the better. Get the staff in place early and get started ASAP. Recruits will know who we are and the fans will have something to hope for again. 

Now I gotta watch old Baylor games...

9 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

The thing is imo it's about finding a good HC and overall staff. We have run all those offenses and a lot of them have been good enough to win a lot of games but didn't have the rest of the team to win. 

 

Honestly it's a crapshoot hiring coaches so you never know but my best guess is any one of Leipold, Malzahn, DeBoer, Rhule, Aranda, Klieman, Kiffin would have a good chance to turn this around and then once you get to winning 9-10 games I think we would recruit up into the 15 range where we would have the talent to compete with top teams. 

 

Who do you think will come in and run the offense you want to see and win? 

I would actually be okay with most of those guys, but I seriously doubt any of them leave where they are for Lincoln. 

Urban would be my first choice. Yes, I  know it goes against my pro-triple option rants, but Urban would turn us into a recruiting juggernaut very quickly. Nebraska football would be exciting and fun for the first time maybe since Osborne retired. 

After him, I would go after Calhoun and then Monken. I truly believe Nebraska running power/triple option again is what will bring us back. An identity, a brand we would all get behind as a state. 

Chadwell would be an interesting pick after that. Somewhat of a wildcard for sure, though.