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  1. I don't think this is an either or situation. I think we're also in on some big bodied guys. I think we're still in on Manning, we had Hutchinson and Robinson on campus recently. The staff is going after the people they need, but one of the big problems we've had is guys getting open. Speed is never going to hurt us there. 

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  2. 6 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

    For me I would feel better if Frost thought he had a 6-6 team- but if he felt like they would be a dangerous team preseason I would be concerned about his ability to have an understanding of what talent we do or do not have. 

     

    I had a different experience. I felt like the leadership of the program all talked about the goal of making a bowl. I think the media really played up the end of last season. Many of us (including myself to a degree) got really caught up in that. I think it's easy to forget what message was coming from where though. 

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  3. I do not disagree about us looking at Minn as a model. I actually think we're on a similar path. That said, I encourage you all to look at another program that is struggling, MSU. 

     

    I was talking to my father in law today and he brought up how badly they had one class hit by attrition. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/678994002

     

    This is a team that had one aberrition of a year but has mostly been stable. What's interesting is that they have the exact same recruiting class as us also get hit extremely hard. I think this is a good reflection of both what this does to team chemistry but also gives us an outside view of a somewhat similar program or what we hope to be. Our situation was the worst part of Minn and the worst of MSU. I still think we recover and move forward, but I think we need to look at all the relevant comparisons. 

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

    It will be interesting to see where coaches go during the bye week. We will probably see a random offer or two and/or a random visit to a recruit we haven’t heard much to this point.

     

    I can only hope so. If we're still aiming for 22-23, it means we need to be hitting our LB and WR group hard. One of our LB targets just committed elsewhere, so I expect we'll be going to wherever plan B is. 

     

    Very curious how we're going to handle LB recruiting. 

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  5. 10 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

    Really only 1 thing pissed me off in this game - I hope I'm wrong, but I think they played Rahmir for one freaking play. I get wanting to use him in games where we have a comfortable lead and they can live with more mistakes, but if that's the case don't play him until we have a lead.

     

    There was a lot of disappointing stuff, it's amazing how much we can shoot ourselves in the foot and still almost pull it out.

     

    Martinez was off - they mentioned a lot of guys being sick (only Taylor-Britt sick enough to not play though), wonder if the QBs were in that boat. I'm sure some people are saying that's how Martinez has been all year, but this was different IMO. He really does need to work on his touch - he's got a little bit of the Cody Green style of throwing everything on a line, no arc. That just doesn't leave a large margin for error on deep balls like the one to Noa or screens.

     

    Tackling was atrocious, and I think that's largely a talent thing. I love guys like Sullivan, but they are just at a big disadvantage there.

     

    As I feared, our plan to deal with the TEs on the game winning drive was to have LBs man them up. We do not have the LBs to do that, that was frustrating.

     

    On the bright side, Lamar balled out. Oline pass protected ok I guess? And for a chunk of the 3rd quarter, we got a little pass rush with our Dline. Darrion's INT was the best moment of the season so far for me. I'm still optimistic about the future, but this year has been brutal.

     

    I agree with you about Rahmir. 

     

    As for everything else, I think so much of this are factors that make the other factor worse. Yes, our play calling isn't great, but if you don't have the players you can't call the plays. Right now we're seeing the same thing out of 2AM that we saw out of Tanner Lee that drove me nuts. Swing pass, ball at the feet of the receiver. When you can't run certain plays, you get predictable and can't break things for larger gains. 

     

    This is happening on both sides of the ball where we have limited depth and arguably one good position group on the whole team (secondary). I don't think it's just a players issue, but the players impact the play calling in meaningful ways.  

  6. 4 hours ago, Treand3 said:

     

    It's why I'm personally not as critical of him as others are. It's not his fault he has to play Tackle. Had the little fat bald guy recruited better, thay might've allowed for him to play Guard. Granted the current staff probably could've went for a JUCO stop gap in their transition class but the are addressing the OL.

     

    Another thing to consider is most of the OL are suited to playing in a pro style scheme.

     

    I think it's fair to be critical of him and also recognize that he'll likely be significantly better when he's in his proper position. 

     

    Regarding the gap year, I'm starting to think that the coaches sticking with UCF hurt us more than we thought. It  might help us understand why we have a 2 year gap in recruiting instead of just one. I don't hold it against them, because it got us HCSF who I still think is the right person for the job, but I am leaning towards it extending the rebuild another year. This in turn sucks because we have a much harder schedule moving forward. 

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  7. 10 hours ago, runningblind said:

    So Hail Varsity has an article talking about staggering attrition:

    https://hailvarsity.com/s/8163/nebraska-recruiting-looking-at-the-huskers-staggering-attrition

     

    Because 38% seemed like a lot, I wanted to see what was normal. I came across this, and even though its 4+ years old, it seems 38% was actually the normal percentage amongst P5 programs between 2002 and 2014.

     

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9ASSW4INt1crs9Zt-SZblYHGLOvODYODJbGzggMyS0/htmlview#gid=296423990

     

    I think this is a great example of zooming out to the point it makes it hard to see things. Attrition isn't a big deal, it happens.

     

    The problem for us is that the attrition number is not evenly distributed. Further, it seems that the attrition is taking the guys we spent the majority of our resources on (the high 3* and 4* guys). Looking at the article you posted, 2015 and 2016 had 30.95% attrition. Not bad by any means. 2017 and 2018 had 45% attrition rate. While that might not seem the most concerning, you also want to consider context. 

     

    The sheet you linked eliminated all context, it just said here are the guys transferring out. Us losing the 2017 and 2018 classes means we don't have the young players right now. If I had to guess, I would think that a lot of the attrition on the spreadsheet are guys who were graduate transfers or were late enough in their careers that they knew they would never see the field and ended up quitting. I can't say that for sure, but what I can say for sure is that we don't know if this is the end of us losing players from the 2017 and 2018 class. 

     

    All teams are hit by this sure, but it's not always concentrated in the same way. Additionally, the context isn't always the same. 

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  8. 5 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said:

     

     

    I feel like I should get a cookie for being a week ahead on this. 

     

    The staff rushed a little with the 2018 class due to the later start than anticipated. The 2019 class is going to be the heart of the rebuild. It's possible that the staff working with UCF late hurt us more than we thought. With that said, I think we can trust the staff now that they have the stability...we just have to be mindful of this as a fanbase. 

     

    All I can say is that we as a fan base should know it's going to be rough for another year or two and be patient. I have to imagine the staff understand what's going on. They're going to recruit Juco's where appropriate, but they are going to want their guys and for as long as possible. We'll have another year or two of the team being young followed by a roster as usual. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, knapplc said:

    Piggybacking off this tweet by Jack Mitchell, we have some pretty good players to build around.

     

     

     

    And, apparently, we lose:

     

    Wyatt Mazour

    Kanavai Noa

     

    Carlos Davis

    Khalil Davis

    Darrion Daniels

    Mo Barry

    Alex Davis

    Lamar Jackson

     

    Mostly off the defense. The offensive core remains intact, including most of the O Line (barring guys winning competitions for spots)

     

    And frankly, mostly the guys we lose on defense (with the exception of Lamar) won't be that hard to replace. Daniels is replaced by his brother, and we just need him to keep doing what Darrion is doing. The twins are not impact players. Alex Davis has been out of position as much as in position all year. Lamar will be a loss (and it's amazing to think that after what he went through last year!) but we have guys to step up.

     

     

     

     

    I'm a little worried about NT next year. Little Daniels still doesn't have the endurance we need. We saw what NT trouble does last year. I don't think we want to burn a RS for a player that isn't ready and I don't think Green is a natural NT. 

     

    The rest of the line is going to be fun I think as long as our strength and conditioning did its job. Robinson's waiting, Wildeman, Rogers. I think we still have some good potential sitting out there. 

     

    Losing Lamar will hurt, but we've recruited well. 

     

    I think on Offense, we're going to be looking good. The infusion of talent will help on the line. It's broken, but the guys are young and we'll get some bigger bodies next season. We need a big body WR. If we can bring in Manning, I think we'll finally see the O we've been looking for. 

     

    I think the biggest question is going to be what happens at LB. We have a lot of incoming guys, but there's going to be some shuffling. 

     

    I think that next year the problem is our murderers row schedule at the end of the season. OSU, Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minn with no weeks off. My prediction, we start strong, fan base gets too excited, we hit a losing streak at the end of the season, people want the head of a coach. 

     

     

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  10. 2 hours ago, Mavric said:

     

     

    This was one of those games where the numbers were weird. Putting the ball on the ground doesn't help. The fumble while we were driving in the first is a great example of this. That was just a player panicking and a huge missed block. 

     

    I made post the other day that we were worse off than we thought rosterwise when frost took over. With that said, I also think we're closer than most people think after today. Our lb aren't great, but we recruited that position really well last year. The game plan was to exploit the slot and they did all game. Our OL is really young and our DL is where our OL was last year. Except I think we're better positioned for the turnover on the DL. 

     

    We need depth and we need a few key positions to be filled (big body wr, NT). The rest of the positions we have the bodies. Just need time still. 

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  11. Just now, TheSker said:

    I think there might be some surprisingly good results on the recruiting trail as Frost continues.

     

    Getting guys like Benhart and Corcoran is big.

     

    And Beckton is doing a nice job so far recruiting Florida and Georgia.

     

    Oh absolutely. I'm very optimistic about this staff. I think my point was more that if you look at Bama/Clemson, they just have SO and Fr all over the place. I think we will regularly have a few guys in that group playing for us, but they're probably not going to ever really be the meat of the team, even if they are the stars of the team. 

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  12. On 10/22/2019 at 6:47 AM, gorp512 said:

     

    Science

     

    That's not entirely true, the word “addiction” is used to refer to a compulsive, uncontrolled use of a habit-forming substance that is characterized by tolerance and withdrawal symptoms. Further definitions sometimes go into addictive behaviors. Research suggests that cannabis use can lead to:

     

    Withdrawal: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.drugalcdep.2010.04.010 ( Budney, A. J., & Hughes, J. R. (2006). The cannabis withdrawal syndrome. Current opinion in psychiatry, 19(3), 233-238.)

     

    Tolerance: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763418302665 ( Colizzi, M., & Bhattacharyya, S. (2018). Cannabis use and the development of tolerance: A systematic review of human evidence. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, 93, 1-25.)

     

    and

     

    Addictive behaviors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4877269/ ( Hughes, J. R., Naud, S., Budney, A. J., Fingar, J. R., & Callas, P. W. (2016). Attempts to stop or reduce daily cannabis use: An intensive natural history study. Psychology of Addictive Behaviors, 30(3), 389.)

     

    The research is a little more mixed than with other drugs, but the idea remains the same. 

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  13. 19 minutes ago, Red Five said:

    RB depth chart looks very thin at the moment.

     

    Mills

    Mazour

    Belt

     

    Wandale is hurt, and who knows knows when he'll be ready.

    We wasted 2 games of Rahmir Johnson.  Do they want to burn his shirt?

    Will MIles Jones get any carries?

    Is Ronald Thompkins even close to being able to get any carries against Purdue or Maryland?

    Is Jaylin Bradley still on the team?

     

    Wasn't Wandale listed at the top of the depth chart today? 

     

  14. 9 hours ago, KingBlank said:

    So why wasn't this instituted in training camp?  Or before every game or at every single practice? Shouldn't even need to be said

     

    Because you don't build a program by acting impulsively and focusing on one season at a time. 

     

    There's a concept called delay discounting, which is essentially a way of looking at how big of a difference in reward do you need to push back when you would receive it. The easiest way to look at it is is time x money. So would you prefer a dollar now or 10 dollars next week. You can manipulate both the time and money components of it.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_preference or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification

     

    So for lack of a better index, think of this like madden ratings for the players. Lets imagine player 1 is a 78 (a senior with no redshirt to burn) and player 2 is a 79 (a Freshmen with a redshirt to burn). Would you rather have the change in 1 improvement now or another season when the freshmen is at their best (maybe an 89 Senior) but that's 4 seasons away? 

     

    The team is essentially doing this math based on the differences between players now, how they project the players, the current other depth on the roster, etc. 

     

    It's easy for us as fans to say start the best player no matter what. Personally, I'd rather have the best product a few years from now. 

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  15. 42 minutes ago, knapplc said:

    Regarding this speech:

     

     

     

    It's hard to believe that seven games into the season Frost has to give a speech like this. If these guys aren't all in right now, why are they in that locker room?

     

    I'm talking without any specific knowledge, but this could be one of the problems with recruiting winners. Some people like winning more than they like competing. A lot of these kids may know how to win, but they don't necessarily know how to lose. Depending on the message these kids have received about winning and losing, it makes sense that some of them are phoning it in. My specialty isn't in sports psychology, but looking at their training and dissertations, I have some reservations about our sports psychologists. We pay a lot of attention to our strength program, but I think gains could be made on the psychology side of the program. I also think this has been true for a long time. 

     

    I see this with fans to a degree. Team isn't winning, they're not a fan. Sometimes you gotta look at the long game and focus on not just reacting in the moment. 

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