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If the players are really really practicing to this stuff...we are definitely recruiting the wrong types of people...It seems to show up in our lack of rhythm
Not sure if serious, but if you want to have a serious musical discussion, rap is actually one of the most rhythmically sophisticated genres of Western music...
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I would like OP to share what fun music he would play before the game if he was the stadium sound operator!
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Michigan st made a bowl last year.
My bad. I had it in my head that they were 5-7.
Actually, they were 6-6 in the regular season. My point remains the same.
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Nebraska needs to be patient. It's hilarious to me that people are comparing this season to 2003 to make the argument that Bo should be let go. If anything is to be learned from 2003, it's that programs like Nebraska need to be patient before they throw away all that is good about what they have.
Nebraska should take a page from Michigan State. They won the division two years ago. Last year, they didn't even make a bowl game. However, they stuck with their coach, they kept doing what they believed in, and here they are - division champs again, and 8-1.
This isn't to say that some changes aren't needed. They should be reorganizing the staff and their duties to some extent, and they need to re-evaluate how they go about their day-to-day business, but a complete overhaul is not necessary right now.
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There's nothing wrong with winning at least 9 games every year. When people talked about Osborne's streak, they didn't say, "He wins 9 games every year." They said, "He wins at least 9 games every year." 9 win seasons were bad seasons, not the norm. Imagine the meltdown at Oregon or Alabama the next time they only win 9 games….
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Our injury bug is another issue that I didn't mention in the OP that probably needs to be addressed. Fans were questioning our strength and conditioning even before our rash of injuries this season. Definitely needs to be looked at, though I don't know what specifically needs to be changed. Any S&C experts, feel free to weigh in...
Can any of these injuries be attributed to S&C? Maybe Kenny and Jamal need to be told to stretch more, I don't know. Other than that, can you train OL to not get rolled up, not to tear ligaments, or not to dislocate shoulders?
Don't know the answer to that. I do know that the more fatigued you are on the field, the more likely you are to play with poor technique, and the more you play with poor technique, the more likely you are to get injured.
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The hard part of the whole situation is that both TA and TM have had fumble issues. You can teach ball security all you want, but until you practice holding onto the ball while getting hit, its just not the same. Im not sure I want the QBs getting tackled in practice just to work on their fumble issues. Im not sure, but I bet many teams do not let their QBs get hit in practice.
But what about teams who want to use their QB in the run game like Nebraska does? It'd be interesting to know how much contact Braxton Miller has in practice, or even Phillip Nelson at Minnesota. I'm fairly certain that back in the Solich/Osborne era, the QBs didn't have a green jersey, and those teams had a lot of full contact in practice.
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A coach solely responsible for special teams. Not someone who already has two other jobs.
Recruiting front office people like they have at Alabama. Maybe not 30 of them. I believe I heard this is happening, though.
Is the recruiting front office needed in order to identify better recruits, or simply to lighten the work load of coaches on the staff? Or both?
And if you make someone soley the special teams coach, who takes on more duties? Does JP go back to coaching a position on defense, and then does Bo go back to being more hands-on DC? How should those dominoes fall?
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Maybe the answer is contact at practices ... until we get key players injured in practice and it is Bo's fault.
At some point, players have to take some responsibility.
I'm not sure I've ever actually heard a fan blame a coach for when a guy gets hurt at practice. Obviously, that would be a concern, but maybe it's worth the risk. I mean, our starters didn't have great ball security either, and when their backups played for them today, they still moved the ball - but it was turnovers that did us in.
Our injury bug is another issue that I didn't mention in the OP that probably needs to be addressed. Fans were questioning our strength and conditioning even before our rash of injuries this season. Definitely needs to be looked at, though I don't know what specifically needs to be changed. Any S&C experts, feel free to weigh in...
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I don't know if it is contact at practices at fault, there was very little contact in the 5 TO we had today.
Then what's needed, in your opinion?
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The defense has come a long ways this year. Pelini and his staff successfully addressed the pass rush, a huge area of need in the offseason, by landing Randy Gregory (identified by Chris Spielman today as the best pass-rusher in the country). The play of the interior line has improved over the course of this season as well. Pelini also made some philosophical adjustments by using the safety much more in run support and blitzing far more often than we've seen during his tenure, and as a result of all of that, the defense has actually started to look like Blackshirts again.
Meanwhile, the offense was able to move the ball fairly consistently on the #1 defense in the country, even without it's All-Conference QB, three starting offensive linemen, and a starting WR, not to mention all the guys who did play while beat up.
This is all to say that people calling for an overhaul of the staff are misguided. They've shown the ability to adjust, to improve, and they've shown the potential to do great things even when half of their starting offense is out.
That said, there are a few areas in which Nebraska has been trending poorly for quite some time now - punt returns and turnovers. I think most posters would agree that on Saturday, those two areas were the difference between a 41-28 loss and something like a 31-17 win.
My question is, excluding coaching changes, what adjustments need to be made? Do we need two punt returners back? Do we need three? Do we need to rush the punter more aggressively? Do we simply need to change the way we practice?
As far as turnovers go, I believe that does come back to the way we practice. I think there probably needs to be far more full-speed/full contact in practice than there is right now, especially with the QBs. It's become clear that ball security was not just a Taylor Martinez issue, but it's something that everyone on offense struggles with. I don't believe it's coincidence that over the past few years, the offense has fumbled the ball more than anyone in the country, and our defense has been consistently poor at tackling. I think if Bo wants to win a conference championship, he's going to have to make philosophical adjustments to the way his team goes about practicing.
Thoughts?
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These threads couldn't be dumber.
I suppose Tim Beck does need to stop calling those fumbled snap plays. And those ones where Tommy throws behind the WR. Oh and the one where Westy drops the return.
I was behind the coaching staff at halftime. Beck lost me in the second half.
The call to pull the guard at the goal line was one of the worst play calls I've ever seen.
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Tariiq Allen sighting!
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Lol. NOW RK3 comes in.
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this will but hut a lot of posters but NU has played good
No. Nebraska is clearly the better team, aside from beating themselves. They played so poorly they've managed to lose.
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WHY ARE WE ONLY SENDING 4 ON 3RD & 8.... FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!
The last time we blitzed on 3rd down, we gave up a TD. It's not play calling, it's execution and beating the man in front of you.
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Armstrong is an awful QB.
Take away the TOs and he is pretty good. Don't take away the TOs, and he is awful. Is there hope with proper coaching?
lol. Take away the TO's and Taylor Martinez is the greatest QB in the history of the universe.
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Tim Beck has now gone into Full-Watson mode.
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If we're just going to throw every play, where is RK3?
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Ball game.
That's why you don't just blitz all the time.
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Secondary has gotten killed on those rollouts today.
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Need a TFL. Don't want to give up a field goal.
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bad throw...
it hit him in the hands?
Barely… Was way behind him, would have been a really tough catch.
Kill the (C)rap music before the game..
in Big Red Lounge: Official BS Forum
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Ok. You guys want to talk music? I don't know sh#t about football compared to music. Prepare for my thesis:
Here are your examples. I took the tune you seemed to like by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, which, given its release date, isn't that bad rhythmically (lyrically, on the other hand…). We'll compare that to "Underground," the last track from Relapse by Eminem.
There are many different ways to create rhythmic complexity or sophistication - in these two pieces, we'll look at polymeter, syncopation, hemiola, and motivic development.
These are the first four measures of the first verse. The vocal rhythm is ridiculously repetitive - almost the exact same rhythm every bar, and there's always an accent on beat 4. It's not remotely syncopated (it always emphasizes the beat), and it stays that way pretty much the whole song. It hardly ever changes, and when it does, it still emphasizes beat 4.
Really, the vocals are comically bad, but it was in 1991, before "Illmatic" was released and changed the way everyone rapped. All rappers sounded pretty square back then. The drums are also repetitive and pretty dull - this song was saved by the bass and guitar player. That's where all the syncopation is, and that's what makes it groove. The guitar is really the only voice in the entire band that actually varies a little bit from measure to measure.
Now, check out Eminem's Underground. The excerpt I wrote out happens towards the end of the last verse.
This song starts with the chorus, but it's in a 5/8 time signature. When the verse starts, the bass/bass drum continue in 5/8, while the hi-hat cymbal, guitar, and Eminem are in 4/4 time. The snare drum is the only voice that connects those two time signatures - they always line up at the snare drum on beats 2 and 4. This use of polymeter, all by itself, makes this song one of the most sophisticated songs you'll find in commercial music.
On top of that, the hi-hat rhythm and guitar rhythm, which just repeat each bar, are both syncopated figures (as opposed to emphasizing the beat, they emphasize the "a" of beat 2, and the "and" of beat 3.
Then there's Eminem. Here's a rapper that has perfected the use multi-syllabic rhyme schemes and internal rhyme sequences to create incredibly complex rhythms in his music. Just one example of this comes in the phrase transcribed above. Eminem takes "sanity," a three-syllable sound, and rhymes it with "can it be," "vanity," (hu-)"manity," "fantasy," and "amputee."
Unlike the Red Hot Chili Peppers, he's not just rhyming everything on beat four. He strings them together to create a hemiola (3 against 2. 16th notes come in two's, so grouping them in three's like Eminem does here is dope). Doing something like this would add a lot of rhythmic sophistication to a song in any genre, but Eminem's doing it in a song that's already written in two different meters.
And as if that weren't enough, he takes that 3-syllable rhythm motif and develops it at the end. Notice that "arm and leg" and "amputee," which are both grouped in 3's, are actually slightly different rhythms than earlier 3-syllable phrases, like "fantasy," and "can it be."
This is just two measures of Eminem's vocals. While the Red Hot Chili Peppers vocals are almost exactly the same every bar, Eminem changes where he accents, and instead of always ending at the end of the bar or at the end of two bars, sometimes his phrases spill over into the next bar, which creates even more layers.
That is sophisticated.