Hercules

This idea that Frost is only "OC-in-name" is just flat-out incorrect. He's the offensive coordinator. He's calling the plays, not Helfrich. It's a fact.

There's no doubt that Frost would be an extremely risky hire. You'd have to decide whether his star potential is so great that it's worth the risk. He'd have to decide that too. If he takes a HC job before he's ready, or if he takes the wrong HC job, he could go the way of Turner Gill (who was the last rising star coach that everyone thought would be Nebraska's HC). I don't know if Frost would be the right hire or not. It would be risky. But I think he would bring a lot of good energy to a program that right now appears apathetic. I think he could recruit, I think he could run the offense, and I think he understands what the Nebraska job is about, he understands the culture (I know EZ-E disagrees with this). The biggest reason I would want Frost is because I want our team to practice the way Oregon does. That's how Nebraska practiced during the Osborne era. And I think it's why Oregon is in better shape, more aggressive, more tough, more physical, smarter, and why they even tackle better than a Pelini-led defense. But all the other stuff... can he handle being the CEO of a program like Nebraska? Does he know what it takes to win championships as a head coach? Could he put together the staff? All unknowns. He would undoubtedly be a risky hire - but I'm not sure how many other realistic candidates there are who truly have the same potential.

The thing people don't understand about Frost is that he's already in a significantly better OC job than the one we could offer him. He has no reason to leave that position for any other OC job in the country. At this point, the only way he comes back to Nebraska is as a head coach.

Rumors are that he does not anymore. Can't find a link, but the rumors are that he doesn't. Regardless, when you cover up the name on his resume he is nowhere near qualified to be our HC. I have no clue where those rumors are coming from. There are no such rumors here in Eugene, where everybody loves Frost, and every article I've seen written about it clearly implies that he's calling the plays. Like this one written after the Washington game, which was just a couple weeks ago. Musberger and Herbstreit even talked about it on the broadcast last night.

Frost does call the plays.

It's easy to say that 9 wins is the benchmark. It always has been at Nebraska. But success at Nebraska shouldn't be measured simply in wins and losses. There are expectations that the fans have that everyone can see plain as day on any given Saturday. 1. Nebraska should always be tough, mentally and physically. 2. Nebraska should always be in excellent physical condition. 3. Nebraska should play hard every single Saturday, regardless of the opponent. 4. Even when Nebraska loses, they should be competitive against any opponent, with the rare exception of being blown out once every few years (not two-three times a season). 5. The coaching staff should be able to make adjustments, over the course of a game and over the course of a season (if you didn't notice, Wisconsin beat us again yesterday). Right now, from my point of view, our coaching staff not only lacks the ability to develop players and teach basic football concepts, but they lack basic strategic intelligence. Yesterday, not only did they get worked over by a staff without a head coach, but they made boneheaded in-game mistakes, like letting 15 seconds tick off at the end of the first half without calling a timeout. That's inexcusable, to make a mistake that even 99% of people just playing a football video game wouldn't even make. The last time our staff out-coached an evenly matched opponent was probably Missouri 2010. Ultimately, our most basic expectation is that the staff be on the right track. We want to see players getting better every week, and we want to see the program actually improving. We want to see that the staff has a vision for where they want to be and that they know how to get there. Right now, they're lacking one or both of those things, which makes it hard to conclude that changes aren't necessary. (this isn't a full list of expectations for the program/coaching staff... it's a list of the expectations we're failing to meet right now).

Really depends on how you look at it as I believe it has been mentioned before that Zook and Stoops were both offered the Co-DC job and chose other opportunities; Zook, to expand upon the business he does in South Florida, Stoops to coach with his brother. The popular candidate to be the HC at NU was also offered a Co-OC position with Tim Beck and his offer was pulled. If that is "blowing it" fine. But the thing people like to believe on this board was the Tim Beck and JP were Bo's only choices. Which is just flat out not the case. That's the first time I've heard that Zook or Stoops had offers on the table. It sounds a little like revisionist history, at this point... It's also ridiculous to have 3 co-DC's (including Bo), and being a co-OC would have been a nice title bump for Frost at the time, but without play-calling duties it was just asking him to make a lateral move (to his home school/state? yes, but also to a program on less solid ground than the one he was at, and to a program where his offensive mentor would be Tim Beck, compared to Chip Kelly... Frost made the right decision for himself turning down the Nebraska offer - can't blame him). Even if those offers really existed for Zook and Stoops, it doesn't excuse the hire of Papuchis (or Els, or Kaz), who all appear to be drastically underwhelming as coaches. It's not like Zook and Stoops were the only competent defensive coaches out there to be hired at the time, nor was Frost the only other offensive coach. When it comes down to it, the coordinators that Bo did hire haven't lived up to expectations, and ultimately he's going to be held accountable for that.

The idea that Bo isn't coaching for his job this November is absurd. Does he have to win a conference championship? No. He can scrap his way to 8 or 9 wins and live to fight another season (if he wants to... listening to his presser today, it wouldn't surprise me if he left at the end of the season, even if it wasn't for a great job). If he can only get to 6 or 7 wins, it'll get dicey. If they lose out, see ya.

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You lost me.

I honestly don't care who starts at QB. Martinez, Armstrong, RKIII, it doesn't make a difference. They can all be successful, but Beck has to put them in position to succeed. If Martinez starts, how about using the read option? Martinez went 35 yards on his first designed run of the game today. He may not be 100%, but he's healthy enough to hurt defenses with his legs, and that's the whole point of having him in the game. Yet even in the fourth quarter, when we desperately needed points, we didn't call a single read option. If you don't think Martinez is healthy enough to run, but you still want to use the QB run game, then you go with Armstrong. But you have to USE THE QB RUN GAME. If you don't want the QB run game, then you go with RKIII. He's the best passer, hands down. No matter who you start, the strength of the offense is still the running game, with the offensive line and Ameer Abdullah. That's what you rely on, that's what you go to when you're struggling. The problem with our offense is not who's at QB. It's that our coaching staff is too stupid to realize the above, or they are too incompetent to put together a cohesive game plan that actually plays to their strengths.

Yeah, I think there's something wrong with our conditioning. BR Overreaction was also talking about how some of the guys have just put on unacceptable amounts of weight the over the last month or so.

You know, we say this, but I'm not sure it's reflected in NFL prospect rankings. According to CBS sports, Quincy is the 40th rated WR for the 2014 draft. Kenny Bell is rated 18th among WR's for the 2015 draft. They're good, but not elite.

Hey may not be 100% right now, but he can run. He showed that in the 3rd quarter. But that was the first designed QB keep of the game, and they never ran any read option. If they're not going to run him, then put the backups in. But I do think he's capable of running the ball right now, and they just didn't do it. But that's the whole damn point isnt it? He also showed twice (the only two opportunities) that he can throw downfield too. But we never attempt that either. if it's an issue of having confidence enough in him to put him in those situations, then we need a qb we do have the confidence in as a playcaller. If you dont have faith enough in Taylor's health to call the qb runs, and you dont have the faith enough in his passing ability to stretch the field, and get the back 7 defenders out of the box, then explain to me why the hell he's even in the game. I basically agree, I just don't know what Beck's motives are. You're implying that the reason he doesn't ask Taylor to throw downfield or to run the ball is because he doesn't have faith in Taylor's abilities or his health. I don't know if that's the case. We've seen Beck call so many bad games, and to see him call another one like today, where Abdullah is averaging over 8 ypc and he doesn't just ride that horse to victory? That's incompetence. What is the identity on offense? There is none. They don't play fast, they're not run-first, they're not pass-first, they're not an option team. They are nothing.

Hey may not be 100% right now, but he can run. He showed that in the 3rd quarter. But that was the first designed QB keep of the game, and they never ran any read option. If they're not going to run him, then put the backups in. But I do think he's capable of running the ball right now, and they just didn't do it.

I disagree with this. People are very conveniently forgetting the WR drops that Tommy Armstrong experienced at Purdue, and his 3 interception performance in that game. What I don't understand at all is why you would play Martinez and then not use the QB run game. It makes ZERO sense. What the hell is our offense supposed to be? Is it a running offense? Then why don't you get the RB, who's averaging more than 8 ypc, more than 20 carries? Is it a dropback passer offense? Then why is Ron Kellogg III, who is EASILY the best passer on the team, on the bench? Is it an option offense? Then why do you wait until the 3rd quarter to ask Martinez to run the ball? Minnesota knows who they are. They know what they have to do. Nebraska, on the other hand, has absolutely no idea what their identity is on offense. No clue.

ballgame.

Taylor made a nice move to escape pressure on that 2nd down blitz, but if he had seen the seam route on the left side, it was a touchdown.

same here. and if he wants a pocket passer QB, RKIII should be playing every snap. If he wants a QB run game, USE IT.

MIGHTY MOUSE

Tim Beck. Why? WHY?

But Tommy hit the guy in the hands.... and the guy was tripping over himself. So which is it? Taylor throws a bad ball that hits the guy in the hands but its the receivers fault and Tommy throws a decent ball into a guy tripping over himself and its Tommy fault? lmao That entire drive has nothing to do with throwing the ball. It's about being committed to the run game, and right now, Nebraska needs the QB run game to do that. If Taylor can do that (which he just did), he should be in the game. I just don't know why they waited to use it until the end of the 3rd quarter.

WHERE IS THAT BEEN ALL GAME LONG?

Man, the way it looks right now... We're not just going to lose, but we're going to get blown out.