A lot of convenient cherry picking going on in here. I had to wait over 2 hours at our most recent local voting polls. There were a couple black folks waiting in line as well, so I guess that must of been why. I should of asked them while we were in line if they thought shorter voting lines would prevent some of the culturally-driven bad decisions made by those living in the inner cities.... The larger point I'm trying to make is: There is a lot of finger pointing coming from the black community, as to why they have so many issues within their communities. They (and most of you) blame white people.... I (and some prominent black people) believe that a lot of inner city communities need to get their own houses in order (literally is some cases) before pointing blame at others, who in most cases, have zero impact on their lives. Even if the modern oppression of black people wasn't a fallacy, it still doesn't make you: 1) Father children, and not take care of them. 2) Join gangs, and partake in illegal activity that you KNOW will land you in legal trouble. 3) Shoot/Kill your fellow minorities at an astronomically higher rate than whites (or cops) are killing minorities. But, I've been down this road with most of you before, so..... Back to the Football forums I go.