Triaging the QB room

[Mavric]

22 minutes ago, CheeseHusker said:

Well.... what do we do now?

 

I don't know how you don't at least give Purdy a shot.

 

But Rhule seems to be particularly averse to changing QBs.

[BoSolich]

not getting dylan raiola really hurts when you realize we are 1 good QB away from being a good team.

[floridacorn]

That was a brutal outing, but 1 play in particular would drive me nuts if I'm the coaching staff.  I believe it was in the 3rd quarter, but the play was a shallow cross screen.  Fidone blocks Lloyd's man off the LOS, Lloyd comes underneath Fidone and crosses down the LOS, and the receiver running a shallow cross from the opposite side also blocks coverage LB's.  All legal because Lloyd is crossing at the LOS.  HH dropped back in a clean pocket & just as Lloyd is about to break free & into a ton of open space, HH inexplicably climbs in the clean pocket and runs himself into a sack with eyes down field the entire time.  

 

Any pass that doesn't go to Lloyd turns all those blocks into penalties, because they were blatant blocks, not subtle picks.  So what in the world was HH looking at, and why did he abandon a clean pocket while the screen was being set up?  IMO, you can only assume he wasn't aware what they were running & that the receiver down field was just clearing out coverage.    As frustrating as the endless array of the inaccurate passes were, they can be accounted for.  That play isn't mechanics, it's between the ears.  

[gobiggergoredder]

11 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Here are the top QBs so far in 2023. In looking at the top 20 on the list, I could see a couple guys who might be willing to move to the BIG. Oregon States QB and the QB for Liberty (Kaidon Salter) who appears to be a good fit for Rhules offense. Salter has 19 TDs and 3 INTs and is a sophomore.

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr

 

 

The Oregon State guy may be possible Because they have a freshman they really like.  But he’s already transferred once so that doesn’t seem like a good option.  He’s also a really big dude.  Given our line probably won’t improve over night I’m sure he’s be a mobility concern.

 

Theres been some rumors around the QB at Tulane. His stats and highlights are impressive.

[BigRedBuster]

43 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

The Oregon State guy may be possible Because they have a freshman they really like.  But he’s already transferred once so that doesn’t seem like a good option.  He’s also a really big dude.  Given our line probably won’t improve over night I’m sure he’s be a mobility concern.

 

Theres been some rumors around the QB at Tulane. His stats and highlights are impressive.

Here’s the thing. If HH is seeing the open receivers and hitting them, the job for the O line becomes easier.  MSU has to commit more players covering receivers. 
 

And….if we have a QB doing that, we win by at least two TDs. 

[twofittyonred]

Sam Hunt out of Missouri..  asking for a friend...  

[Toe]

12 hours ago, BoSolich said:

not getting dylan raiola really hurts when you realize we are 1 good QB away from being a good team.

 

...

 

Psst! Dylan Raiola is still in high school. He wouldn't be doing us much good right now.

[Toe]

3 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:

Theres been some rumors around the QB at Tulane. His stats and highlights are impressive.

 

*flashbacks to our last QB from Tulane*

 

[Mavric]

 

[Mavric]

Despite missing some throws badly,  HH was actually not that bad on short and intermediate throws.

 

Throws 0-10 yards: 5/9, 47 yards, 5.2 ypa

Throws 10-20 yards: 4/8, 86 yards, 10.7 ypa

 

Not spectacular, but solid.  Should have hit a couple more but missed open receivers.

 

The behind the LOS throws were a mess, but not really HH's fault.  They were just all over those passes, especially early.

 

Behind the LOS: 3/4, -4 yards, -1.0 ypa

 

It was the deep throws that killed us.

 

Throws 20+ yards: 0/5, 2 INTs (should have been 3)

 

Yikes.

[Vizsla1]

Sounds like Simms is ok with being ok...maybe this has been covered already, but he has "asked" not to be put in anymore so he can retain his legibility to play more seasons elsewhere.    

[SouthLincoln Husker]

9 hours ago, Mavric said:

Despite missing some throws badly,  HH was actually not that bad on short and intermediate throws.

 

Throws 0-10 yards: 5/9, 47 yards, 5.2 ypa

Throws 10-20 yards: 4/8, 86 yards, 10.7 ypa

 

Not spectacular, but solid.  Should have hit a couple more but missed open receivers.

 

The behind the LOS throws were a mess, but not really HH's fault.  They were just all over those passes, especially early.

 

Behind the LOS: 3/4, -4 yards, -1.0 ypa

 

It was the deep throws that killed us.

 

Throws 20+ yards: 0/5, 2 INTs (should have been 3)

 

Yikes.

I did not think he was that bad early, but with the injuries the majority of our offense is FR & SO.

[ZRod]

47 minutes ago, Vizsla1 said:

Sounds like Simms is ok with being ok...maybe this has been covered already, but he has "asked" not to be put in anymore so he can retain his legibility to play more seasons elsewhere.    

I'm curious where you're hearing that? I think on reddit early in the season a GA Tech fan said something exactly like this would happen. They said Sims never played in a major game, and basically shrunk away from the spotlight when games got tough. He some how always ended up on the side lines.

[BigRedBuster]

10 hours ago, Mavric said:

Despite missing some throws badly,  HH was actually not that bad on short and intermediate throws.

 

Throws 0-10 yards: 5/9, 47 yards, 5.2 ypa

Throws 10-20 yards: 4/8, 86 yards, 10.7 ypa

 

Not spectacular, but solid.  Should have hit a couple more but missed open receivers.

 

The behind the LOS throws were a mess, but not really HH's fault.  They were just all over those passes, especially early.

 

Behind the LOS: 3/4, -4 yards, -1.0 ypa

 

It was the deep throws that killed us.

 

Throws 20+ yards: 0/5, 2 INTs (should have been 3)

 

Yikes.

Yeah...those behind the LOS passes along with the run game would be way easier if the defense needed to commit more guys to defending the long passes.  But, when they can put one guy in single coverage with all of our WRs, it becomes to easy for them.

[Red Five]

Haarberg climbing the NU single season fumbles chart (data only goes back to 2006).

 

2012 Taylor Martinez 16

2010 Taylor Martinez 16

2011 Taylor Martinez 14

2018 Adrian Martinez 12

2023 Heinrich Haarberg 11

2014 Tommy Armstrong 10

2019 Adrian Martinez 8

2020 Adrian Martinez 7

2007 Sam Keller 7

2006 Zac Taylor 7

 

He currently leads the NCAA in fumbles, despite only really playing in 7 of 9 games.  (KJ Jefferson of Arkansas is 2nd with 10, then 3 are tied with 9).

 

He's also 4th in fumbles lost at 4 (3 are tied with 5 lost).