What did we learn Illinois edition

[gobiggergoredder]

54 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

What is up with this obsession Nebraska fans and sports writers have of cutting off any discussion about the officials when we lose? 

 

Five of Illinois' first downs were due to penalties. 

Because it’s our fanbase “go to” when we lose.  That and saying announcers are cheering for other team.  It’s tired.  Illinois was the better team.

 

They moved the ball at will the entire game.  The first down was inevitable and not because of penalties.

[The Dude]

Bad officiating is a time-honored tradition in college football.  It's part of the charm.

 

Outplaying the bad officiating is part of what separates the good teams from the bad.

[knapplc]

Just now, Red Five said:

 

But it is whining about the refs.
 

I don’t think we were called for a holding last night, so did the Nebraska OL never hold?  Or are you just choosing to see the Illinois “holds”?

 

I am genuinely curious about how refs are “always being biased against Nebraska” works?  Did the B1G put out a memo to the refs to screw us?  Is there a ref group text chain where they talk about not giving Nebraska calls? Did Jim Delany come up with this master plan and make sure Kevin Warren and Tony Petitti kept it going?

 

I didn't say that. I said we should be able to discuss the refereeing when it's warranted. Don't insert that hyperbole into my argument. 

 

Nebraska went a year without a holding call called on our opponents in Big Ten play. That's not only statistically improbable, it's almost certainly intentional. 

 

[Undone]

7 minutes ago, floridacorn said:

 

I've only seen one angle of this replay, but it seems to me incomplete was an option not even considered.  That DB pulled the ball out with his right hand, but after the ball comes free & both players are on the ground, Neyor has his right hand trapped, & he comes up with the ball in his left.  Unless the ball is trapped between them, he scooped it off the turf. 

 

 

 

This is such a good point, dude.

[knapplc]

1 minute ago, gobiggergoredder said:

Because it’s our fanbase “go to” when we lose.  

 

It isn't. And if the refs are part of the reason the results were what they were, we should be able to talk about them without people immediately dismissing the conversation because Nebraska also made mistakes. 

 

Two things can be true at the same time.

[knapplc]

Nebraska made good plays - we can talk about that

Nebraska made bad plays - we can talk about that

Illinois made good plays - we can talk about that

Illinois made good coaching decisions - we can talk about that

Nebraska made bad coaching decisions - we can talk about that

 

The refs made bad calls - we can't talk about that

 

 

Make it make sense.

 

[gobiggergoredder]

14 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It isn't. And if the refs are part of the reason the results were what they were, we should be able to talk about them without people immediately dismissing the conversation because Nebraska also made mistakes. 

 

Two things can be true at the same time.

We each have an opinion.  Mine is that they didn’t impact the outcome of the game.  I know others believe they did.

[floridacorn]

16 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

This is such a good point, dude.

 

There's a point in this play where the ball is free 1000% and you can see the DB reach with his left hand and palm it.  I think everybody assumed it was a wrestling match for the ball and completely overlooked it.

[Cobra Kai]

I learned that some fans actually drank the preseason/nonconference kool-aid.  I still marvel at how extreme we are as a fan base.  When we win, we are back...get out those receipts.  When we lose, the sky falls so hard.

 

I guess I also learned that there are fewer rational fans out there that understood this team would be better than last year...but far from a world beater.  

 

We won all 3 games we should have won...convincingly...that didn't happen last year. 

 

I really don't care that Vegas had us as an 8.5 favorite...anyone that didn't have scarlet and cream glasses knew this was a pickem...and we lost...in overtime against a good team. 

 

Vegas is smart.  They wanted your money.  

 

Have a great week!  It'll get better!  GBR!

[The Dude]

The people who forgot to tell us so are coming out of the woodwork to tell us they told us so.

[Moiraine]

15 minutes ago, floridacorn said:

 

There's a point in this play where the ball is free 1000% and you can see the DB reach with his left hand and palm it.  I think everybody assumed it was a wrestling match for the ball and completely overlooked it.

 

 

I kept saying there is no proof anyone caught it.

[Jason Sitoke]

20 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Nebraska made good plays - we can talk about that

Nebraska made bad plays - we can talk about that

Illinois made good plays - we can talk about that

Illinois made good coaching decisions - we can talk about that

Nebraska made bad coaching decisions - we can talk about that

 

The refs made bad calls - we can't talk about that

 

 

Make it make sense.

 

I think the point is we can talk about bad calls and they do affect the game of course..but what is the logical conclusion of your argument?  Is this a conference conspiracy against Nebraska?  If you think so, say it and explain how it could be executed in secrecy for a decade, and more importantly why. 
 

I had a few problems with the refereeing last night. I thought the spot was terrible on the Illinois 4th down. I thought the offsides call was BS. I thought the defensive Pi against us on the 3rd down hitch route was bad and inconsistent with the non call in the end zone on our second drive. 
 

However, the calls I hear being debated, like the end zone INT, the personal foul after the 4th down play, the non call on the OT hit on Banks…all were correct in my opinion.  Illinois had an argument on a few non calls as well that went our way.  
 

So there…we talked about it. 

[Jason Sitoke]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

The people who forgot to tell us so are coming out of the woodwork to tell us they told us so.

It’s our job to entertain it. It’s how they cope.  They take it out on us…Huskerboard domestic violence. 

[krc1995]

So many things go into being a consistently good team that gets better throughout season, and we’re not there yet. It’s was a very good test that we failed,   but I’d rather know these things now than in October/November.  At least we can try to fix them. 
 

And I think it’s time to get away from home. Maybe it will help the focus issue. 

[walksalone]

The penalties did them in.

 

9 for 89 yards, and I'm betting at least 3 of those kept an Illinois scoring drive going.  

 

Without half of those penalties, it's probably a W