admo Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 14 hours ago, USDSM Huskerlover said: Do Kingsbury and Holgorson cross paths in prior stops? I wonder if they are barking up the "You want to be more like Mahomes, this is the offense he ran in college" for Raiola? GO BIG RED! Yes they are good friends. Dana was Kingsbury's mentor and they go way back. Holgo is from the Mike Leach coaching tree. He was Texas Tech's Inside-WR coach when Kingsbury was playing QB for 3 years. Kliff went to the NFL, Dana eventually took over as the OC for Leach and they had some of the best offenses in the country with Dana (#2 total offense, #7 scoring offense, 42 ppg, for example). Holgorson was at Texas Tech for 8 years. Holgorson then went to Houston as the OC for 2 years. In his 2nd season, they finished the #3 offense in the country, and avg 42 ppg. When Kingsbury's NFL career ended, Holgorson reached out Kliff and got him a job with Houston. They even lived together briefly while working together. Kingsbury said if it wasn't for Holgorson, he never would have been a coach. Holgorson then went to Oklahoma State for one year. And Kingsbury took over OC at Houston, then went to Texas A&M as OC. Holgorson and Kingsbury both state they share the same philosophy - "Up-tempo, high-energy, and only care about scoring points". As Oklahoma State's OC for one year, Dana's offense was also incredible. Scoring 45 ppg, a Doak Walker finalist (RB rushing for over 1500 yards), a WR that won the Biletnikoff Award, and QB that was Manning finalist. After that, Holgorson was named the HC at West Virginia and did quite well as we know. He then finally ended up back in Houston but as the HC for a few years. When he was let go, he was owed $14.8 mil for buyout. Mahomes' OC at Texas Tech was Eric Morris, who is now the HC at UNT (North Texas). Morris has turned the North Texas program around and was a WR at Texas Tech when Holgorson was there as Offensive Coordinator. A few weeks ago against Memphis - Morris was asked a question at half time, and his short answer was "all I care about is scoring points". Just like Holgorson and Kingsbury - a philosophy that is "up-tempo, high-energy, and only care about scoring points". So it will be interesting to see how Holgorson does with Nebraska and how involved he will be. His track record as an OC speaks volumes. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Gentlemen, It is spelled Holgorsen. Maybe an abbreviation would be appropriate.... 1 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 29 minutes ago, Hilltop said: Gentlemen, It is spelled Holgorsen. Maybe an abbreviation would be appropriate.... D’hol? 1 8 Quote Link to comment
gossamorharpy Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 hour ago, krc1995 said: D’hol? I second this Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 11 hours ago, admo said: Yes they are good friends. Dana was Kingsbury's mentor and they go way back. Holgo is from the Mike Leach coaching tree. He was Texas Tech's Inside-WR coach when Kingsbury was playing QB for 3 years. Kliff went to the NFL, Dana eventually took over as the OC for Leach and they had some of the best offenses in the country with Dana (#2 total offense, #7 scoring offense, 42 ppg, for example). Holgorson was at Texas Tech for 8 years. Holgorson then went to Houston as the OC for 2 years. In his 2nd season, they finished the #3 offense in the country, and avg 42 ppg. When Kingsbury's NFL career ended, Holgorson reached out Kliff and got him a job with Houston. They even lived together briefly while working together. Kingsbury said if it wasn't for Holgorson, he never would have been a coach. Holgorson then went to Oklahoma State for one year. And Kingsbury took over OC at Houston, then went to Texas A&M as OC. Holgorson and Kingsbury both state they share the same philosophy - "Up-tempo, high-energy, and only care about scoring points". As Oklahoma State's OC for one year, Dana's offense was also incredible. Scoring 45 ppg, a Doak Walker finalist (RB rushing for over 1500 yards), a WR that won the Biletnikoff Award, and QB that was Manning finalist. After that, Holgorson was named the HC at West Virginia and did quite well as we know. He then finally ended up back in Houston but as the HC for a few years. When he was let go, he was owed $14.8 mil for buyout. Mahomes' OC at Texas Tech was Eric Morris, who is now the HC at UNT (North Texas). Morris has turned the North Texas program around and was a WR at Texas Tech when Holgorson was there as Offensive Coordinator. A few weeks ago against Memphis - Morris was asked a question at half time, and his short answer was "all I care about is scoring points". Just like Holgorson and Kingsbury - a philosophy that is "up-tempo, high-energy, and only care about scoring points". So it will be interesting to see how Holgorson does with Nebraska and how involved he will be. His track record as an OC speaks volumes. So what are the chances we replace current offensive staff with a whole new staff - DHol as OC, Mooris as WR coach Kingsbury as QB coach or some other arrangement?? Wishful thinking I know. Be nice to get the gang together to fire up our offense. 2 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 15 hours ago, lo country said: I guess I can see why Satt said 4-6 per play would be good.. 1 Quote Link to comment
nupowr Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Hiring Holgorson to help fix a team that wont run the ball and cant run the ball is like hiring a BBQ master to help a guy who is having cardiac issiues 3 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 9 hours ago, Hilltop said: Gentlemen, It is spelled Holgorsen. Maybe an abbreviation would be appropriate.... His nickname and abbrv has always been Holgo - for as long as I can remember 9 hours ago, krc1995 said: D’hol? No 7 hours ago, gossamorharpy said: I second this Stop 3 1 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 hours ago, nupowr said: Hiring Holgorson to help fix a team that wont run the ball and cant run the ball is like hiring a BBQ master to help a guy who is having cardiac issiues Um, please See below that shows what Dana Holgorsen has done with running backs when he was OC/HC for- West Virginia, Texas Tech, Houston, OSU. I think this type of production by the Running Backs might surprise you and possibly bring a tear to your eye. These are individual seasons. Charles Sims - SR season - 1095 rushing yards on 208 carries, 11 TDs, 401 receiving yards, 3 TDs, total production - 1496 yards, 14 touchdowns - in 12 games. That is the starter and I'm not including his backup stats. Wendall Smallwood - SR season - 1519 rushing yards on 238 carries, 6.4 avg, 9 TDs, 264 receiving yards - total production 1679 yards 9 TDs in 13 games Taurean Henderson - 872 rushing yards, 5.9 avg, 17 TDs, 528 receiving yards, 5 TDs, total productioin - 1400 yards, 22 TDs - in 12 games Shannon Woods - 926 rushing yards, 6.1 avg, 10 TDs, 572 receiving yards, 2 TDs - total production - 1498 yards, 12 TDs - in 13 games Injury bug season - 3 RBs - 842 rushing yards, 14 TDs rushing, 4 receiving TDs, 562 rec yards, - total production 1404yards, 18 TDs Bryce Beal - 1247 rushing yards, 6.3 avg, 198 carries, 13 TDs, 496 receiving yards, 4 TDs - total production - 1743 yards, 17 TDs 2 Back Committe - Bryce Beal - 670 yards, 7 TDs; 311 recieving yards 3 TDs; Charles Sims 698 yards, 9TDs, 759 receiving yards, 1 TD - total production from a 2 back system -1378 rushing yards, 16 TDs, 1070 receiving yards, 4 TD receiving - total - 2440 yards, 20 TDs Kendall Hunter - 1548 rushing yards, 16 TDs; Total yards 1649 - backups Joseph Randle & Jeremy SMith - 714 rushing yards, 9 TDs, 428 recieving yards, 1 TD - total RB production 2262 rushing yards, 25 TDs - total production Rush/Rec - 2789 Yards from scrimmage, 26 TDs 2 back system - Garrison & Alston 1158 rushing yards, 18 TDs, 204 receiving yards - 1362 yards, 18 TDs in 11 games 3 back system - Buie, Alston, Austin - 1880 rushing yards, 17 TDs, 1607 recieving yards, 12 TDs - total production 3487 29TDs 4 running backs sharing the ball - 2193 rushing yards, 16 TDs - total production - 2774 yards, 16 TDs 3 back system - Crawford 1184 rushing yards, Shell 514 rushing yards, McKoy 472 rushing yards - total - 2170 rushing yards, 19 TDs 2 back system - Crawford 1061 yards, McKoy 596 yards, - total rushing for 2 RBS: 1667 rushing yards, 14 TDs 3 RB system - McKoy, Pettaway, Brown - 1871 rushing yards, 18 rush TDs 2 RB system - McCaskill, Henry - 1474 rushing yards, 23 rush TDs 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, admo said: Um, please See below that shows what Dana Holgorsen has done with running backs when he was OC/HC for- West Virginia, Texas Tech, Houston, OSU. I think this type of production by the Running Backs might surprise you and possibly bring a tear to your eye. These are individual seasons. Charles Sims - SR season - 1095 rushing yards on 208 carries, 11 TDs, 401 receiving yards, 3 TDs, total production - 1496 yards, 14 touchdowns - in 12 games. That is the starter and I'm not including his backup stats. Wendall Smallwood - SR season - 1519 rushing yards on 238 carries, 6.4 avg, 9 TDs, 264 receiving yards - total production 1679 yards 9 TDs in 13 games Taurean Henderson - 872 rushing yards, 5.9 avg, 17 TDs, 528 receiving yards, 5 TDs, total productioin - 1400 yards, 22 TDs - in 12 games Shannon Woods - 926 rushing yards, 6.1 avg, 10 TDs, 572 receiving yards, 2 TDs - total production - 1498 yards, 12 TDs - in 13 games Injury bug season - 3 RBs - 842 rushing yards, 14 TDs rushing, 4 receiving TDs, 562 rec yards, - total production 1404yards, 18 TDs Bryce Beal - 1247 rushing yards, 6.3 avg, 198 carries, 13 TDs, 496 receiving yards, 4 TDs - total production - 1743 yards, 17 TDs 2 Back Committe - Bryce Beal - 670 yards, 7 TDs; 311 recieving yards 3 TDs; Charles Sims 698 yards, 9TDs, 759 receiving yards, 1 TD - total production from a 2 back system -1378 rushing yards, 16 TDs, 1070 receiving yards, 4 TD receiving - total - 2440 yards, 20 TDs Kendall Hunter - 1548 rushing yards, 16 TDs; Total yards 1649 - backups Joseph Randle & Jeremy SMith - 714 rushing yards, 9 TDs, 428 recieving yards, 1 TD - total RB production 2262 rushing yards, 25 TDs - total production Rush/Rec - 2789 Yards from scrimmage, 26 TDs 2 back system - Garrison & Alston 1158 rushing yards, 18 TDs, 204 receiving yards - 1362 yards, 18 TDs in 11 games 3 back system - Buie, Alston, Austin - 1880 rushing yards, 17 TDs, 1607 recieving yards, 12 TDs - total production 3487 29TDs 4 running backs sharing the ball - 2193 rushing yards, 16 TDs - total production - 2774 yards, 16 TDs 3 back system - Crawford 1184 rushing yards, Shell 514 rushing yards, McKoy 472 rushing yards - total - 2170 rushing yards, 19 TDs 2 back system - Crawford 1061 yards, McKoy 596 yards, - total rushing for 2 RBS: 1667 rushing yards, 14 TDs 3 RB system - McKoy, Pettaway, Brown - 1871 rushing yards, 18 rush TDs 2 RB system - McCaskill, Henry - 1474 rushing yards, 23 rush TDs Great stats. Unsure how theabove meet with each year below. 1st ranking is conference and 2nd is the national rank. We are currently 104th to date at 124 yards/game. Last year with really only a running game we were 34th at 176/game. He was only lower than our yardage 3 times, but was ranked higher in all but one year. That year they had Graham Harrell.....9-4 (4-4 conference) was his worst rushing ranking. I can see why they went all "air raid". Points per game is what wins games....His passing game was legit as well. Program Points per game Total yards per game Passing Yards per game Rushing yards per game OC Texas Tech (2007) 40.9 (3rd/7th) 529.6 (1st/2nd) 470.3 (1st/1st) 59.3 (12th/119th) OC Houston (2008) 40.6 (3rd/10th) 562.8 (2nd/2nd) 401.6 (1st/2nd) 161.2 (5th/47th) OC Houston (2009) 42.2 (1st/T-1st 563.4 (1st/1st) 433.7 (1st/1st) 129.6 (9th/83rd) OC Oklahoma State (2010) 44.2 (1st/3rd) 520.2 (1st/3rd) 345.8 (1st/2nd) 174.4 (4th/36th) HC West Virginia (2011) 37.6 (1st/13th) 469.5 (1st/15th) 346.8 (1st/6th) 122.7 (4th/92nd) HC West Virginia (2012) 39.5 (3rd/9th) 502.0 (3rd/10th 330.2 (5th/10th) 171.8 (5th/53rd) HC West Virginia (2013) 26.3 (7th/81st) 410.8 (5th/63rd) 262.1 (4th/34th) 148.7 (7th/83rd) HC West Virginia (2014) 33.5 (5th/37th) 499.8 (4th/12th) 317.0 (4th/9th 182.8 (4th/45th) HC West Virginia (2015) 34.0 (6th/36th) 479.7 (5th/22nd) 251.5 (6th/42nd) 228.2 (2nd/16th) HC West Virginia (2016) 31.2 (7th/50th) 485.5 (6th/17th) 257.2 (7th/42nd) 228.4 (5th/25th) HC West Virginia (2017) 34.5 (3rd/22nd) 459.5 (4th/20th) 309.3 (4th/13th) 150.2 (5th/84th) HC West Virginia (2018) 40.3 (2nd/10th) 512.3 (2nd/7th) 351.3 (2nd/4th) 160.9 (5th/76th) HC Houston (2019) 30.7 (6th/51st) 392.6 (8th/78th) 203.3 (9th/91st) 189.3 (5th/37th) HC Houston (2020) 30.0 (7th/53rd) 408.9 (6th/56th) 265.8 (4th/34th) 143.1 (10th/84th) HC Houston (2021) 35.9 (3rd/15th) 414.9 (5th/59th) 271.4 (3rd/23rd) 143.4 (9th/86th) HC Houston (2022) 36.1 (2nd/17th) 455.8 (4th/25th) 314.0 (2nd/8th) 141.8 (8th/77th) HC Houston (2023) 23.7 (12th/90th) 360.2 (13th/86th) 241.5 (8th/53rd) 118.7 (12th/104th) Quote Link to comment
BigRedRig Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 For those who have not followed him, he does run the ball more than his mentor, the late and great Mike Leach. Holgs was fun to watch at WVU. His offense was not only productive but entertaining. You were never out of a game. Most locals thought it was a mistake for him to go to Houston. I think we were right. I for something completely different. He has not had the benefit of well funded recruiting . I personally feel with the right collective juice in a Power 4 program, it would be very interesting to see what he could do here. Quote Link to comment
hskrpwr13 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 2 hours ago, BigRedRig said: For those who have not followed him, he does run the ball more than his mentor, the late and great Mike Leach. Holgs was fun to watch at WVU. His offense was not only productive but entertaining. You were never out of a game. Most locals thought it was a mistake for him to go to Houston. I think we were right. I for something completely different. He has not had the benefit of well funded recruiting . I personally feel with the right collective juice in a Power 4 program, it would be very interesting to see what he could do here. I think there's a comparison to be made here to a former beloved Husker coach. The Coordinator role is probably his wheelhouse. 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 On 11/8/2024 at 5:57 PM, admo said: Um, please See below that shows what Dana Holgorsen has done with running backs when he was OC/HC for- West Virginia, Texas Tech, Houston, OSU. I think this type of production by the Running Backs might surprise you and possibly bring a tear to your eye. These are individual seasons. Charles Sims - SR season - 1095 rushing yards on 208 carries, 11 TDs, 401 receiving yards, 3 TDs, total production - 1496 yards, 14 touchdowns - in 12 games. That is the starter and I'm not including his backup stats. Wendall Smallwood - SR season - 1519 rushing yards on 238 carries, 6.4 avg, 9 TDs, 264 receiving yards - total production 1679 yards 9 TDs in 13 games Taurean Henderson - 872 rushing yards, 5.9 avg, 17 TDs, 528 receiving yards, 5 TDs, total productioin - 1400 yards, 22 TDs - in 12 games Shannon Woods - 926 rushing yards, 6.1 avg, 10 TDs, 572 receiving yards, 2 TDs - total production - 1498 yards, 12 TDs - in 13 games Injury bug season - 3 RBs - 842 rushing yards, 14 TDs rushing, 4 receiving TDs, 562 rec yards, - total production 1404yards, 18 TDs Bryce Beal - 1247 rushing yards, 6.3 avg, 198 carries, 13 TDs, 496 receiving yards, 4 TDs - total production - 1743 yards, 17 TDs 2 Back Committe - Bryce Beal - 670 yards, 7 TDs; 311 recieving yards 3 TDs; Charles Sims 698 yards, 9TDs, 759 receiving yards, 1 TD - total production from a 2 back system -1378 rushing yards, 16 TDs, 1070 receiving yards, 4 TD receiving - total - 2440 yards, 20 TDs Kendall Hunter - 1548 rushing yards, 16 TDs; Total yards 1649 - backups Joseph Randle & Jeremy SMith - 714 rushing yards, 9 TDs, 428 recieving yards, 1 TD - total RB production 2262 rushing yards, 25 TDs - total production Rush/Rec - 2789 Yards from scrimmage, 26 TDs 2 back system - Garrison & Alston 1158 rushing yards, 18 TDs, 204 receiving yards - 1362 yards, 18 TDs in 11 games 3 back system - Buie, Alston, Austin - 1880 rushing yards, 17 TDs, 1607 recieving yards, 12 TDs - total production 3487 29TDs 4 running backs sharing the ball - 2193 rushing yards, 16 TDs - total production - 2774 yards, 16 TDs 3 back system - Crawford 1184 rushing yards, Shell 514 rushing yards, McKoy 472 rushing yards - total - 2170 rushing yards, 19 TDs 2 back system - Crawford 1061 yards, McKoy 596 yards, - total rushing for 2 RBS: 1667 rushing yards, 14 TDs 3 RB system - McKoy, Pettaway, Brown - 1871 rushing yards, 18 rush TDs 2 RB system - McCaskill, Henry - 1474 rushing yards, 23 rush TDs Your forgetting the most important part is Dana is a consultant and not the main guy in charge doesn't really change anything other then being another voice. He doesn't make the calls/decisions at the end of the day. Yes that list is impressive but who were his coaches that identified that talent and or coaches that he surrounded himself with to have that success? 1 2 Quote Link to comment
BoSolich Posted November 10 Author Share Posted November 10 holgorson is the perfect coach for raiola. he made some less talented QBs look really good. will be disappointing if he's not the OC next year. 1 Quote Link to comment
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