Trump Cabinet

[Dr. Strangelove]

4 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Only Gaetz and RFK jr are baffling.   The rest of backlash is just non trump voters having their feelings hurt by the choices.   
 

Time will tell if they do a good job or not however. 

I think that the Secretary of Defense pick is problematic to say the least. Tulsa Gabbert should probably not be involved in Intelligence. 

 

Going from a former 4 Star General and Commander of CENTCOM to a B-List Fox News Host with a credible rape accusation is... something. 

 

Oh well, the American people voted for an embarrassing circus and they deserve an embarrassing circus as a result. 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[Archy1221]

10 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

 

Going from a former 4 Star General and Commander of CENTCOM to a B-List Fox News Host with a credible rape accusation is... something

Nice gaslighting here.   Not sure what constitutes credible to you, but if the one that got investigated by police with nothing to show, then I guess you believe or Biden was a President with a credible rape accusation.  
But I do like how you downplay his service as just a B-List Fox News Host🙄

Lloyd really hasn’t been the, how shall we say it lightly, the best Sec of Defense in the past but I guess at least he lets people known when he goes out of pocket for days at a time and when under anesthe………errrrr wait nevermind.   
 

Most of the complaining about the Trump picks is just Bideners overcompensating for the terrible Admin and Cabinet Secretaries we’ve dealt with for four years.   

[Archy1221]

10 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

Tulsa Gabbert should probably not be involved in Intelligence. 

Yeah, I guess Trump could pick an Iranian sympathizer with training as a lawyer who had zero experience with national intelligence before HRC and Joey said “ehhh who cares, he was a private practice lawyer in MN who loves him some Iran.  Why not put him in charge of NSA”.  Oh wait, we currently have that😬

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

[Archy1221]

5 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

 

Outside of RFK, those are some pretty quality selections.   @BigRedBusterwhat don’t know about any of them outside of this tweet?  

[Guy Chamberlin]

16 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Only Gaetz and RFK jr are baffling.   The rest of backlash is just non trump voters having their feelings hurt by the choices.   
 

 

Well there's "baffling" and there's "rewarding loyalists who will undermine the institutions they're in charge of" which isn't baffling at all. 

 

So it's not about hurt feelings as much as "seriously, what the f#&%?" 

 

Has the bar been lowered so far that we can't shake our heads at the new Secretary of Education coming in with a Pro Wrestling background, and Trump's fondness for TV celebrities with little relevant experience? RFK Jr. isn't baffling in that context: he's a famous name and a converted loyalist willing to work outside his area of expertise. 

 

And seriously Strangelove, are we supposed to consider Kristi Noem an "excellent" choice, and not notice the massive drop off in integrity and experience from John Kelly in Trump's last administration?  https://www.thebulwark.com/p/kristi-noem-homeland-security-unqualified 

 

I think the backlash is about the continued normalization of s#!ttier standards. 

[Moiraine]

1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

Outside of RFK, those are some pretty quality selections.   @BigRedBusterwhat don’t know about any of them outside of this tweet?  

 

 

If we’re getting nitpicky, presidents kinda suck at picking people, based on the past FDA picks I’ve looked at. Medical doctors are smart but they don’t make sense to run the FDA, yet that’s what almost every one this century has been. 

 

Either pick someone with expertise and a degree and awesome experience in a field that makes sense for the FDA, or pick a great leader. It being an MD every time makes me think every president has thought “well MDs are smart and it was an MD last time.” MDs aren’t likely to have much/any expertise in food safety or drug testing. 

[BigRedBuster]

1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

Outside of RFK, those are some pretty quality selections.   @BigRedBusterwhat don’t know about any of them outside of this tweet?  

Don’t know much about the others, but Oz is fraud and a nut job. 

[commando]

15 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Don’t know much about the others, but Oz is fraud and a nut job. 

in other words...he is MAGA

[Archy1221]

56 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Well there's "baffling" and there's "rewarding loyalists who will undermine the institutions they're in charge of" which isn't baffling at all. 

🙄  Oh please.  
 

56 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

So it's not about hurt feelings as much as "seriously, what the f#&%?" 

It’s absolutely about hurt feelings and trying to cope by lashing out 

 

57 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Has the bar been lowered so far that we can't shake our heads at the new Secretary of Education coming in with a Pro Wrestling background, and Trump's fondness for TV celebrities with little relevant experience? RFK Jr. isn't baffling in that context: he's a famous name and a converted loyalist willing to work outside his area of expertise.

It’s quite rich to say this and then gloss over the Democrat Admins of the current/past with little relevant experience.  

 

 

59 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I think the backlash is about the continued normalization of s#!ttier standards. 

You didn’t seem to have any standards issues when Biden chose his band of misfits errr “adults back in charge” 

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

 

Either pick someone with expertise and a degree and awesome experience in a field that makes sense for the FDA, or pick a great leader. It being an MD every time makes me think every president has thought “well MDs are smart and it was an MD last time.” MDs aren’t likely to have much/any expertise in food safety or drug testing. 

I agree with you here.   A great Leader can overcome lack of experience in the type of organization he/she is tasked to lead.   As long as that person is willing to put the work into learning about it.  

[Guy Chamberlin]

23 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

🙄  Oh please.  
 

It’s absolutely about hurt feelings and trying to cope by lashing out 

 

It’s quite rich to say this and then gloss over the Democrat Admins of the current/past with little relevant experience.  

 

 

You didn’t seem to have any standards issues when Biden chose his band of misfits errr “adults back in charge” 

 

"Hurt feelings" is such a weird way to characterize the reaction to Donald Trump's appointments. That's what defenders used to say about Husker fans who didn't like Bo Pelini. 

 

I would characterize Biden's appointments similar to Trump's appointments in 2016. They leaned in to party ideology as expected, rewarded a few loyal party stalwarts, and were generally defensible "adults in the room" selections.  Pretty quickly, the adults in the room realized they could not work with Donald Trump and he began jettisoning them for less-experienced appointees he could bully. Some of those hardliners drew the line at Trump's incompetence, too, and since then Trump has had to troll deeper for people willing to fluff his pillow, whether they believe it or not. 

 

If we are to believe your posting history, you think the GOP has been hijacked by these kind of people, hawking culture war nonsense at the expense of traditional conservative values.  The Archy of just a few years (or months) ago would have considered the proposed Trump 2.0 cabinet as comical fear mongering by hand-wringing Dems. Like a lot of s#!t you claimed wouldn't happen, it just keeps happening. 

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

If we are to believe your posting history, you think the GOP has been hijacked by these kind of people, hawking culture war nonsense at the expense of traditional conservative values.  The Archy of just a few years (or months) ago would have considered the proposed Trump 2.0 cabinet as comical fear mongering by hand-wringing Dems. Like a lot of s#!t you claimed wouldn't happen, it just keeps happening.

The Archy of a few years ago (or months) wouldn’t have had an issue with the cabinet picks either👍   

The “adults in the room” had a rough 4 years so it will be nice to have a little bit of a change from the status quo and back to when we had a really really good 3 years prior to Covid.    But at least we didn’t have mean tweets for 4 years though!!!!   

[nic]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/23/politics/pam-bondi-attorney-general-justice-department/index.html

 

“None of the baggage,” one Justice Department lawyer said of Bondi, “but still the same orders.”

 

Sounds like a win-win.