Ricky Thenarse

[corncraze]

They cannot apply for the hardship until after the bowl game. There is little doubt that he will get the extra year.

Are we talking about a medical redshirt cause u must have only played in 25% of seasons games to even qualify for that, didn't Thenarse play more than that?

[Alex 4.0]

They cannot apply for the hardship until after the bowl game. There is little doubt that he will get the extra year.

Are we talking about a medical redshirt cause u must have only played in 25% of seasons games to even qualify for that, didn't Thenarse play more than that?

 

Rules have changed a little bit from my understanding. It's not the old 25% cut/dry anymore...

Bo and Jamrog have both publicly said that they were almost 100% certain that RT would get his med... I think they know better than us.

[AR Husker Fan]

The NCAA website states:

 

The term "redshirt" is used to describe a student-athlete who does not participate in competition in a sport for an entire academic year. If you do not compete in a sport the entire academic year, you have not used a season of competition. For example, if you are a qualifier, and you attend a four-year college your freshman year, and you practice but do not compete against outside competition, you would still have the next four years to play four seasons of competition.

 

Each student is allowed no more than four seasons of competition per sport. If you were not a qualifier, you may have fewer seasons of competition available to you. You should know that NCAA rules indicate that any competition, regardless of time, during a season counts as one of your seasons of competition in that sport. It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.

 

Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.

 

The NCAA by-laws defines a medical hardship as follows:

 

14.2.4 Hardship Waiver. A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of “hardship.” Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions: (Revised: 8/8/02, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)

 

a. The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any two year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior year in high school; (Revised: 1/10/92 effective 8/1/92, 11/1/01, 8/8/02)

 

b. The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season; (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 4/3/02, 4/24/08)

 

c. In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition against outside participants during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in the United States.) from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded from the calculation only if they are identified as such by in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations; and (Revised: 1/10/92, 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 3/10/04, 5/11/05, 8/4/05, 4/26/07, 9/18/07, 4/24/08)

 

d. In individual sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three dates of competition or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the maximum permissible number of dates of competition as set forth in Bylaw 17 plus one date for a conference championship (e.g., gymnastics: 13+1=14, wrestling: 16+1=17), regardless of whether the team participates in the conference championship, provided the institution is a member of a conference and the conference holds a championship event in the applicable sport. Dates of competition that are exempted per Bylaw 17 (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in the United States) from the maximum permissible number of dates of competition do not count toward the number of dates in which the student-athlete has participated. (Adopted: 4/24/08)

[Alex 4.0]

AR is the man.

 

so he played in 4 of 14 games this year. That means 28.5% of the completed contests....

 

so had we not made it to the CCG his career at NU would have been done.

[Pedro Guerrero]

If he gets that extra year why do people think he is going to be anything more then a really good special team’s player? What has he shown over the last 4 years that would make you believe it is all finally going to click this year and he will be what people have been hyping him up to be?

 

Not knocking the guy just wondering if I’m missing something.

 

That being said I will be glad if he gets an extra year. The kid deserves it.

[knapplc]

If he gets that extra year why do people think he is going to be anything more then a really good special team’s player? What has he shown over the last 4 years that would make you believe it is all finally going to click this year and he will be what people have been hyping him up to be?

 

Not knocking the guy just wondering if I’m missing something.

 

That being said I will be glad if he gets an extra year. The kid deserves it.

 

I'm mostly counting on seeing continued improvement under the Pelinis. It seems like everyone has ramped up their game each of the last two years, and I'm expecting Thenarse to do so, too.

[Igetbored216]

Thenarse was just starting to get on the field at the safety position before he got injured. Obviously this put a quick end to that.

 

So, Smith is definitely going to be in at safety and I would assume Thenarse. Who else do we have?

[caveman99]

Thenarse was just starting to get on the field at the safety position before he got injured. Obviously this put a quick end to that.

 

So, Smith is definitely going to be in at safety and I would assume Thenarse. Who else do we have?

Yeah Ricky was getting some decent time before he got hurt. Coaches indicated they were happy with his level of play in practice and on the field. Whether or not he can pick up where he left off after this injury is the question. As for who else we have at Safety, Hagg and PJ Smith have to be the early favorites to be starting. Courtney Osborne will be a RSo. and there was some good pub about him early on this year. Also Dijon Washington will come off his RS next year. I would say those 4 plus Ricky will be the major group pushing for PT at Safety next season.

[NUance]

Thenarse was just starting to get on the field at the safety position before he got injured. Obviously this put a quick end to that.

 

So, Smith is definitely going to be in at safety and I would assume Thenarse. Who else do we have?

We lose Asante and O’Hanlon. Hagg and West both return with the most PT. PJ Smith and Osborne are back. But we have a bunch of guys who would fit in nicely at one or the other safety spots—Gomes, West, Prince, Blue, others. I think we will be fine at the safety positions.

[knapplc]

As I recall, they were about as excited for Dijon Washington as they were for Dejon Gomes. If he's even close to Gomes' level, we've got another solid guy back there. He'll be a RFR next year, yes?

[caveman99]

As I recall, they were about as excited for Dijon Washington as they were for Dejon Gomes. If he's even close to Gomes' level, we've got another solid guy back there. He'll be a RFR next year, yes?

Yes Washington will be RFr. next year

[BigRedfxtoy]

Very true about the injury. In fact, it seems to be more negative than positive when guys do return......no stats too back that up, just sayin...

 

But, didn't Suh have shoulder surgery early in his career? But, he did have more than a year to reach full speed again.

 

Suh had knee surgery.... (I'm pretty sure it was his first year) But, I think the point being made was, a great number of kids with injuries are not able to come back mentally or phisically. It takes a special person to come back 100%.

[In the Deed the Glory]

Very true about the injury. In fact, it seems to be more negative than positive when guys do return......no stats too back that up, just sayin...

 

But, didn't Suh have shoulder surgery early in his career? But, he did have more than a year to reach full speed again.

 

Suh had knee surgery.... (I'm pretty sure it was his first year) But, I think the point being made was, a great number of kids with injuries are not able to come back mentally or phisically. It takes a special person to come back 100%.

 

See:

 

Oden, Greg

London, Frankie

Herian, Matt

Blue, Anthony

etc.

[typ3kal]

Very true about the injury. In fact, it seems to be more negative than positive when guys do return......no stats too back that up, just sayin...

 

But, didn't Suh have shoulder surgery early in his career? But, he did have more than a year to reach full speed again.

 

Suh had knee surgery.... (I'm pretty sure it was his first year) But, I think the point being made was, a great number of kids with injuries are not able to come back mentally or phisically. It takes a special person to come back 100%.

 

See:

 

Oden, Greg

London, Frankie

Herian, Matt

Blue, Anthony

etc.

 

 

Greg Oden is a mess. He's a good guy who can't seem to catch a break. Another season killed due to injury... makes you feel bad for the guy after awhile.

[huskerpt34]

Very true about the injury. In fact, it seems to be more negative than positive when guys do return......no stats too back that up, just sayin...

 

But, didn't Suh have shoulder surgery early in his career? But, he did have more than a year to reach full speed again.

Suh had knee surgery.... (I'm pretty sure it was his first year) But, I think the point being made was, a great number of kids with injuries are not able to come back mentally or phisically. It takes a special person to come back 100%.

See:

 

Oden, Greg

London, Frankie

Herian, Matt

Blue, Anthony

etc.

I think Matt suffered more from the massive broken leg and the fear assoiciated with that. jmho