Interesting Attorney's analysis showing why giving Texas an extra second was wrong.

[Husker1995]

I received this by email and it really helped me understand how bad the Officials screwed up Saturday night.

 

 

Questions Walt Anderson will never have to answer:

 

Mr Anderson, the official clock is kept on the field by the referree, correct?

 

That is the only clock that is official, correct?

 

That clock showed 0:00 at the conclusion of that play, correct?

 

Thus, the ruling on the field by the official timekeeper was that

time had expired and the game was over, correct?

 

However, at the request of Texas, the replay booth, with your

approval, decided to review the play to see if the official clock on

the field should be changed, correct?

 

In doing so, you reviewed video tape of the play, with a clock

superimposed on the screen by the ABC network, correct?

 

ABC superimposes the time from the stadium scoreboard on their screen, correct?

 

Neither the ABC or stadium scoreboard are official clocks, correct?

 

In fact, several times a game, including in the Texas v Nebraska

game, the official timekeeper on the field will tell the stadium

scoreboard operator to change the time to make sure it is consistent

with the time he has on his official clock, correct?

 

And after the stadium clock changes, ABC will then change the time on

it's clock it superimposes on its broadcast, correct?

 

Thus, there is an official clock, there is the stadium clock that

requires adjustment several times a game, and then there's abc's

superimposed clock, which they will change after the stadium clock

changes? Correct?

 

The official on the field in this game did NOT ask the stadium

scoreboard operator to adjust the clock on the scoreboard, did he?

 

In fact, had the referee's official clock on the field showed there

to be 1 second left and not 0:00, all he would've had to do is simply

tell the scoreboard operator to put 1 second back on the stadium

clock, correct?

 

Just as is done in many games in college football each week when the

stadium clock is not in accord with the official time kept on the

field, correct?

 

Just as was done in THIS game a couple of times, correct?

 

There would've been no need for a review then, correct?

 

That did not happen, however, because the official clock kept on the

field showed 0:00, correct?

 

Your replay official, after watching the ABC broadcast replay and

their superimposed clock, decided that the ball hit something out of

bounds with 1 second showing on the ABC superimposed clock, correct?

 

Your replay offiicial could NOT review, or determine, what time was

shown on the official on the field clock when the ball hit out of

bounds, correct?

 

Nor could he even review what the STADIUM clock showed when the ball

hit out of bounds, corrrect?

 

Thus, your replay official at no time determined that the official

clock was wrong, did he?

 

At no time did he determine that an "egregious" error was made by the

official clock, did he?

 

In fact, your replay official couldn't even determine that the

STADIUM clock timekeeper made an "egregious" error, could he?

 

In fact, what your replay official did was determine, based solely

upon a review of ABC's superimposed clock, that the official clock

and stadium clock should be adjusted to be in accord with the ABC

superimposed image, correct?

 

Officials indicate to stop the clock by waving their hands over their

heads after a play becomes dead, correct?

 

Your replay official did not review whether that was done properly or

timely, did he?

 

Your replay official didn't even see that happen on the ABC televised

images he reviewed, did he?

 

It is quite common, isn't it Mr Anderson, for a second, or two, to

tick off after a ball hits out of bounds and while a referree is

indicating by waving his arms that the clock should be stopped?

Correct?

 

Happens dozens of times a game, every game, doesn't it Mr Anderson?

 

It happens in games you personally referee, doesn't it Mr Anderson?

 

How many times in the last 5 years have you found those instances to

be "egregious" such that you believe a replay official should've

reviewed the situation?

 

That number would be zero, correct Mr Anderson?

 

That is because egregious, whatever it means, cannot mean something

that happens routinely, PROPERLY, by referees doing their jobs

appropriately, game after game after game, can it Mr Anderson?

 

Let me see if I have this straight Mr Anderson:

 

*the official time kept on the field showed 0:00 at the end of the game

 

*the official timekeeper did not ask the stadium scoreboard operator

to put time back on the scoreboard, as he would when he knew there

was an error.

 

*Your replay official never reviewed the official time clock. It's

impossible, correct?

 

*Your replay official never reviewed what the stadium scoreboard

clock showed, correct?

 

*Your replay official reviewed only ABC's superimposed image of the

clock, correct?

 

*Neither you, nor the replay official, know whether that image

accurately reflected what the stadium clock showed, much less the

official clock, do you?

 

*Nonetheless, you and your replay official decided that an "egregious

error" had occurred with the official clock based solely upon

reviewing ABC's superimposed image, without knowing what the official

clock said, what the stadium clock said, without knowing when the

referees waved the play dead, and despite this situation happening

dozens of times a game, every game all year long, correct Mr.

Anderson?

 

I pass the witness.

 

 

 

Walt Anderson is the Big XII Official who made the decision to give Texas the extra second. He is a graduate of the University of Texas.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Anderson...tball_official)

 

 

I hope Coach Osborne files an official protest with the Bix XII.

[hskrfan4life]

wow. that really is something there.

[Husker Richard]

[SealBeachHusker]

Similar to soccer, where the official time is kept on the field. This would make it different than many of the basketball comparisons I've seen made. I have a feeling the NCAA offers a "clarification" in the off season to address this.

 

I received this by email and it really helped me understand how bad the Officials screwed up Saturday night.

 

 

Questions Walt Anderson will never have to answer:

 

Mr Anderson, the official clock is kept on the field by the referree, correct?

 

That is the only clock that is official, correct?

 

That clock showed 0:00 at the conclusion of that play, correct?

 

Thus, the ruling on the field by the official timekeeper was that

time had expired and the game was over, correct?

 

However, at the request of Texas, the replay booth, with your

approval, decided to review the play to see if the official clock on

the field should be changed, correct?

 

In doing so, you reviewed video tape of the play, with a clock

superimposed on the screen by the ABC network, correct?

 

ABC superimposes the time from the stadium scoreboard on their screen, correct?

 

Neither the ABC or stadium scoreboard are official clocks, correct?

 

In fact, several times a game, including in the Texas v Nebraska

game, the official timekeeper on the field will tell the stadium

scoreboard operator to change the time to make sure it is consistent

with the time he has on his official clock, correct?

 

And after the stadium clock changes, ABC will then change the time on

it's clock it superimposes on its broadcast, correct?

 

Thus, there is an official clock, there is the stadium clock that

requires adjustment several times a game, and then there's abc's

superimposed clock, which they will change after the stadium clock

changes? Correct?

 

The official on the field in this game did NOT ask the stadium

scoreboard operator to adjust the clock on the scoreboard, did he?

 

In fact, had the referee's official clock on the field showed there

to be 1 second left and not 0:00, all he would've had to do is simply

tell the scoreboard operator to put 1 second back on the stadium

clock, correct?

 

Just as is done in many games in college football each week when the

stadium clock is not in accord with the official time kept on the

field, correct?

 

Just as was done in THIS game a couple of times, correct?

 

There would've been no need for a review then, correct?

 

That did not happen, however, because the official clock kept on the

field showed 0:00, correct?

 

Your replay official, after watching the ABC broadcast replay and

their superimposed clock, decided that the ball hit something out of

bounds with 1 second showing on the ABC superimposed clock, correct?

 

Your replay offiicial could NOT review, or determine, what time was

shown on the official on the field clock when the ball hit out of

bounds, correct?

 

Nor could he even review what the STADIUM clock showed when the ball

hit out of bounds, corrrect?

 

Thus, your replay official at no time determined that the official

clock was wrong, did he?

 

At no time did he determine that an "egregious" error was made by the

official clock, did he?

 

In fact, your replay official couldn't even determine that the

STADIUM clock timekeeper made an "egregious" error, could he?

 

In fact, what your replay official did was determine, based solely

upon a review of ABC's superimposed clock, that the official clock

and stadium clock should be adjusted to be in accord with the ABC

superimposed image, correct?

 

Officials indicate to stop the clock by waving their hands over their

heads after a play becomes dead, correct?

 

Your replay official did not review whether that was done properly or

timely, did he?

 

Your replay official didn't even see that happen on the ABC televised

images he reviewed, did he?

 

It is quite common, isn't it Mr Anderson, for a second, or two, to

tick off after a ball hits out of bounds and while a referree is

indicating by waving his arms that the clock should be stopped?

Correct?

 

Happens dozens of times a game, every game, doesn't it Mr Anderson?

 

It happens in games you personally referee, doesn't it Mr Anderson?

 

How many times in the last 5 years have you found those instances to

be "egregious" such that you believe a replay official should've

reviewed the situation?

 

That number would be zero, correct Mr Anderson?

 

That is because egregious, whatever it means, cannot mean something

that happens routinely, PROPERLY, by referees doing their jobs

appropriately, game after game after game, can it Mr Anderson?

 

Let me see if I have this straight Mr Anderson:

 

*the official time kept on the field showed 0:00 at the end of the game

 

*the official timekeeper did not ask the stadium scoreboard operator

to put time back on the scoreboard, as he would when he knew there

was an error.

 

*Your replay official never reviewed the official time clock. It's

impossible, correct?

 

*Your replay official never reviewed what the stadium scoreboard

clock showed, correct?

 

*Your replay official reviewed only ABC's superimposed image of the

clock, correct?

 

*Neither you, nor the replay official, know whether that image

accurately reflected what the stadium clock showed, much less the

official clock, do you?

 

*Nonetheless, you and your replay official decided that an "egregious

error" had occurred with the official clock based solely upon

reviewing ABC's superimposed image, without knowing what the official

clock said, what the stadium clock said, without knowing when the

referees waved the play dead, and despite this situation happening

dozens of times a game, every game all year long, correct Mr.

Anderson?

 

I pass the witness.

 

 

 

Walt Anderson is the Big XII Official who made the decision to give Texas the extra second. He is a graduate of the University of Texas.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Anderson...tball_official)

 

 

I hope Coach Osborne files an official protest with the Bix XII.

[cornhuskersftw]

Yeah, I totally agree with this article. That clock couldn't look more unofficial or superimposed if they tried. I just wish Suh and Co had blocked that field goal so the egregious error and one second addition to the time clock would still be foiled and they could shove it up their you know what!! Although, in that case, they would have called a penalty, moved Texas closer to the field goal, and added two seconds with the way things were going! The black and white really screwed us this time. Game was over and there was nothing to cause a review and no "egregious error"! And nice to see that Anderson has no bias to Texas whatsoever....

[Ringer02]

It's funny because mccoy didn't even know the full rule, he simply thought the ball had to cross out of bounds. So while he was looking for a way to pad his heisman stats one last time by winning the game with a sexy TD rather than a field goal he in return almost screwed his entire team. Shame on him.

[whateveritis1224]

There has to be something done for this rule in the future as our game wasn't the only one affected by this type of situation(ND/Mich and FSU/Miami).

 

But that won't change anything about the outcome of the game. It's done and over with, our best shot at changing anything would to keep bringing this up to either the Big XII or the NCAA for them to make it very clear as to what the refs should do in this sort of situation.

 

The way they have the rule right now the refs should be able to review a situation where the clock runs down at a minimum of 3 seconds after the play was over and the ball is blown dead. But by calling the 1 second that ran off egregious, they are opening things up to where every second of the game could be brought up for the clock operators for wasting time. Of course that wouldn't happen because it's make the games 5+ hours, but the fact that there is now a possibility for it to happen should make the NCAA look into things and make the rule clear.

[BHud]

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

 

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

[SaturnDrew]

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

 

WTF?!?! Am I missing a thread here?

[kansas husker]

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

 

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

 

I think you are missing one of the key points of the op. That they did not review the official time keepers clock they used ABC'S clock which is less accurate so when they checked for the human error you're reffering to they did not use an accurate method to measure the human error or to determain if there was a human error

[zoogs]

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity.

 

I think I'll quote this again...have done so quite a few times in recent days.

 

If we should win, let it be by the code...

 

I think most of you know how the rest of it goes.

 

We have this thing here on Huskerboard where we run through the prayer before every game in a thread.

 

Do we even mean what we say? Because if not, what's the point?! FWIW, I've been back and forth on what to think about the last second. I do think it is not worth arguing that we should get that W back, though. Because man, what a sucky way to win, with an asterisk like that. I'm perfectly content to let Texas carry that burden.

[Husker1995]

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

 

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

 

 

Their wasn't 1 second left. Colt McCoy screwed up.

 

You obviously didn't read what the Attorney stated.

 

 

Please post links to threads stating "death on Texas fans".

 

 

 

This is not unprecedented. Ryan Leaf tried to spike the ball with 2 seconds left in the 1998 Rose Bowl.

 

ABC's game clock showed 1 second left, but the official time said :00 so

 

GAME OVER!

 

[BHud]

After further review, it seems I must retract that. One idiot made a comment in the threadd about the MArine death after the game, wishing it was the TX fan. You guys jumped on him pretty ood, and he was consequently banned.

 

All I know is, I thought you guys were fantastic fans at the game.....and then the message board...not so much. I really hated to see you guys lose in such a donkey kick fashion, but man...it isn't as if life has always been roses for TX fans. See ya in Lincoln next year.

 

 

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

 

WTF?!?! Am I missing a thread here?

[BHud]

Game over, indeed. Texas won, you lost. No grand conspiracy, you just couldn't close us out. Sucks, but it is what it is. And see above for response on the death comment.

 

 

I don't think you get what egregious means. You are stuck on length, but you should concentrate on outcome. Egregious....taking away the last second that was left, when there was a team trailing that had the ball in FG range. Egregious...not putting back the last second, when said team has an opportunity to win, fair and square. Sadly, you would have rather won by less than honorable means, human error, than lose with dignity. Your coach, the one screaming cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater must be rubbing off on you. There was no big controversy in the stands of the sterile Jerry World. We all knew, be we Husker or Horn, that it was obvious there was time left on the clock. Why the big debate here?

 

You used to be known as the benchmark for fandom.....now, I see threads about leaving the conference, threads wishing death on Texas fans....it''s just sad, really.

 

Good luck in your bowl game. Please represent the Big 12 well.

 

 

Their wasn't 1 second left. Colt McCoy screwed up.

 

You obviously didn't read what the Attorney stated.

 

 

Please post links to threads stating "death on Texas fans".

 

 

 

This is not unprecedented. Ryan Leaf tried to spike the ball with 2 seconds left in the 1998 Rose Bowl.

 

ABC's game clock showed 1 second left, but the official time said :00 so

 

GAME OVER!

 

[zoogs]

After further review, it seems I must retract that. One idiot made a comment in the threadd about the MArine death after the game, wishing it was the TX fan. You guys jumped on him pretty ood, and he was consequently banned.

 

All I know is, I thought you guys were fantastic fans at the game.....and then the message board...not so much. I really hated to see you guys lose in such a donkey kick fashion, but man...it isn't as if life has always been roses for TX fans. See ya in Lincoln next year.

 

 

That's message boards for ya.

 

Husker fans have been really, really disappointing at times. A lot of -ing this year and '07. We're more like any other fanbase than we are probably willing to admit.