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Player: Max Pirman

Hometown: Orrville, Ohio

School: Orville HS

Position: DE/OLB/WR

Height: 6'5"

Weight: 218 lbs

40 time: 4.67

Visit Date: None

Scholarships: Indiana, Bowling Green, Ball State, Central Michigan, Kent State, Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan, Kansas, Nebraska

 

 

Rankings/Stars:

Rivals: :star :star :star #46

Scout: :star :star :star #66

ESPN: :star :star :star #50

 

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was looking for this. this is a very odd recruitment IMO. Not only his he a solid committ (I use that term loosely) to Indianna but (just going off reported stats here) ...too slow to be a receiver, to small to be a DE, too slow/tall to be much of an OLB. If he can add 20-30 pounds maybe a TE or a weakside DE? Can't really imagine him putting on enough weight to move over to strong side.

 

please don't respond with the following: "if he can play who cares about how tall he is" or "i trust the coaches" or "rivals stats are never accurate", etc. you've gotta admit this kid is outside of all "normal" conditions as far as the DE/OLB/WR positions go.

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We just offered this kid. He is a new target for us. Anyone have any info on how hard we are going after him and where he ranks on our board?

 

He's been sitting in the Rvals database for a long time showing an NU offer, but I never posted up his profile because he's been a solid commit to Indiana ever since we offered him. I don't create profiles for players who have already committed to other schools when we offer them afterwards. Cortez Davis and Steve Miller are a couple of examples.

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We just offered this kid. He is a new target for us. Anyone have any info on how hard we are going after him and where he ranks on our board?

 

He's been sitting in the Rvals database for a long time showing an NU offer, but I never posted up his profile because he's been a solid commit to Indiana ever since we offered him. I don't create profiles for players who have already committed to other schools when we offer them afterwards. Cortez Davis and Steve Miller are a couple of examples.

except he's visiting for the KU game now...?...

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We just offered this kid. He is a new target for us. Anyone have any info on how hard we are going after him and where he ranks on our board?

 

He's been sitting in the Rvals database for a long time showing an NU offer, but I never posted up his profile because he's been a solid commit to Indiana ever since we offered him. I don't create profiles for players who have already committed to other schools when we offer them afterwards. Cortez Davis and Steve Miller are a couple of examples.

except he's visiting for the KU game now...?...

 

Good for him.

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Cant fault the kid for being damn sure he made the right choice with the hoosiers. But I honestly dont see him coming here.

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I don't know why the coaches would even schedule the visit when we've only got 4-5 spots left if he wasn't seriously wavering on Indiana.

We really only have 4-5 spots left?!? I thought we were sitting at 6-7...man that sucks...

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I don't know why the coaches would even schedule the visit when we've only got 4-5 spots left if he wasn't seriously wavering on Indiana.

We really only have 4-5 spots left?!? I thought we were sitting at 6-7...man that sucks...

 

The number of spots we have left is iffy right now. There are a lot of situations that can play out and thus our number of spots will fluctuate. Bubba Starling could go Pro Baseball and never make it to campus. Braylon Heard could fail to qualify academically. Charles Jackson is well on his way to qualifying but it's gonna be close. And there are some other factors that could play out... so yes you are right. We could have 4-5 spots open or we could have 6-7 spots open depending on how everything plays out.

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I know that height, weight, times, reps and all that stuff is great to look at. But somtimes, not most of the time, but sometimes, kids are just football players. Zach Thomas, Dat Ngyeun, those guys come along and they might not look the part but for some reason they end up just being good.

 

One of the best kids I ever coached looked like ememen, was a stick, couldnt run at all and probably never benched over 200 pounds but anything thrown to him, he caught. He ended up being a 3 year starter at an FBS school. Had he actually ever tried reading or writing he probably would have ended up at UNL.

 

Please dont take this to mean "stars dont matter" but its just that some kids win, some kids make tackles, some kids make catches. Is this kid like that? I have no idea but he might be.

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I know that height, weight, times, reps and all that stuff is great to look at. But somtimes, not most of the time, but sometimes, kids are just football players. Zach Thomas, Dat Ngyeun, those guys come along and they might not look the part but for some reason they end up just being good.

 

One of the best kids I ever coached looked like ememen, was a stick, couldnt run at all and probably never benched over 200 pounds but anything thrown to him, he caught. He ended up being a 3 year starter at an FBS school. Had he actually ever tried reading or writing he probably would have ended up at UNL.

 

Please dont take this to mean "stars dont matter" but its just that some kids win, some kids make tackles, some kids make catches. Is this kid like that? I have no idea but he might be.

Who the hell is ememen? :)

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I know that height, weight, times, reps and all that stuff is great to look at. But somtimes, not most of the time, but sometimes, kids are just football players. Zach Thomas, Dat Ngyeun, those guys come along and they might not look the part but for some reason they end up just being good.

 

One of the best kids I ever coached looked like ememen, was a stick, couldnt run at all and probably never benched over 200 pounds but anything thrown to him, he caught. He ended up being a 3 year starter at an FBS school. Had he actually ever tried reading or writing he probably would have ended up at UNL.

 

Please dont take this to mean "stars dont matter" but its just that some kids win, some kids make tackles, some kids make catches. Is this kid like that? I have no idea but he might be.

Who the hell is ememen? :)

 

 

He is like a Weird Al type!

 

haha

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was looking for this. this is a very odd recruitment IMO. Not only his he a solid committ (I use that term loosely) to Indianna but (just going off reported stats here) ...too slow to be a receiver, to small to be a DE, too slow/tall to be much of an OLB. If he can add 20-30 pounds maybe a TE or a weakside DE? Can't really imagine him putting on enough weight to move over to strong side.

 

please don't respond with the following: "if he can play who cares about how tall he is" or "i trust the coaches" or "rivals stats are never accurate", etc. you've gotta admit this kid is outside of all "normal" conditions as far as the DE/OLB/WR positions go.

If you don't want those answers, don't ask questions which they answer.

 

Anybody remember when Helu was a recruit? Lots of people questioning his offer and saying he'd be a LB and never see any time at RB. He now holds the single game rushing record. Recruiting isn't a science.

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This guy sucks why in the heck are we recruiting this bum.

Despite what RenDenver says, I trust our coaches. I don't know why eveyone is hating on this guy so much. His frame is very similar to Sean Fisher...he seems to work well at linebacker.

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This guy sucks why in the heck are we recruiting this bum.

Despite what RenDenver says, I trust our coaches. I don't know why eveyone is hating on this guy so much. His frame is very similar to Sean Fisher...he seems to work well at linebacker.

Ummm, I think we agree here. Not sure what you think I meant.

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I would have to agree somewhat. There are bigger and better fish in the sea. Look its the 2nd quarter and the staff is throwing a mail mary with this kid. I feel we should take a wait and see. Wait till the recruits see that Mack Brown is really a D-bag.

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This guy sucks why in the heck are we recruiting this bum.

Despite what RenDenver says, I trust our coaches. I don't know why eveyone is hating on this guy so much. His frame is very similar to Sean Fisher...he seems to work well at linebacker.

Ummm, I think we agree here. Not sure what you think I meant.

Apologies RedDenver, I meant to say despite what kchusker says.

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This guy sucks why in the heck are we recruiting this bum.

Despite what RenDenver says, I trust our coaches. I don't know why eveyone is hating on this guy so much. His frame is very similar to Sean Fisher...he seems to work well at linebacker.

Ummm, I think we agree here. Not sure what you think I meant.

Apologies RedDenver, I meant to say despite what kchusker says.

No problem, I figured it was something like that.

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More and more as Pelini has been here I have come with the opinion that he is among the Herb Brooks camp..."I'm not looking for the best players, I'm looking for the right ones". I think he's trying to continue to build a culture, and knows what type of players are going to continue to build on it.

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:laughpound Nexus, too funny.

 

Max is still very much committed to Indiana. He says he's taking this visit in case "something goes wrong." Decided to tag along with a teammate who is coming for an unofficial (2012 LB Mason Monheim).

Hearing LB Monheim will be a top prospect for 2012 (Illinois has already offered him). Pirman is an interesting prospect. Will be interested to see how he likes his visit this weekend because there is a world of difference playing on Nebraska's defense vs. Indiana's. After watching Indiana fold on Iowa's drive last weekend (that was Cosgrove-esque defense there), no doubt Pirman could play early there. But he also seems like a player the Pelini's could develop to his full potential. Small-town type kid would likely love Nebraska...I'll be watching this one with interest.

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not sure about this one... for ever 10 david santos etc... you have on Max Pirman... i thinks not as simple as recruiting andrew G just for some other prize... but hey i'm sure the staff knows something we dont.... plus doesnt help to make some ohio inroads......

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not sure about this one... for ever 10 david santos etc... you have on Max Pirman... i thinks not as simple as recruiting andrew G just for some other prize... but hey i'm sure the staff knows something we dont.... plus doesnt help to make some ohio inroads......

Can't argue your post...but sometimes the staff may see someone they can mold into a very good player. I get the sense that is happening here.

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I like this pick up. Great frame to add weight to. Good athlete from the looks of it as well.

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I think this kid is destined to played that stand-up defensive end/linebacker position that Cam-stache has been playing for the last couple of weeks. He's got the size, motor and the attitude that I really like. A year with Dobson to pack on a few more pounds and build up that speed, then LOOK OUT. I've got high hopes for this kid.

 

Welcome aboard, Max.

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Interesting pick up with lots of big names out there and limited space.

 

Ya, agreed. I could look at this in a number of ways. For now, I'll assume that the staff has it all figured out.

 

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This is a GREAT underrated get for our staff. This kid plays OLB/TE/WR/DE and even punts. He is a great athlete that has been reported to be 6'5" 220 with 4.5/4.6 speed. He is a great addition to our team because he is so athletic he can really be used as a utility player for us. I'm surprised more big time teams haven't looked into him. He's one of those where the staff can redshirt and watch for a year and then assign a position according to where he fits best in the system. The other great thing about this kid is he knows how to deliver a strong hit. He's not afraid to flat out knock people out. That's the perfect type of player Bo likes in his defenses, if he chooses to use him there.

 

My prediction: Max redshirts, and puts on 30 pounds to become a great DE for us.

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Great pick up, very underrated. Will be a force off the edge for us in a couple years with his size, and speed to boot. Oh wait JOEY doesnt think he will be very good at all. :facepalm::laughpound

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Found his profile and video at http://scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=4084&srid=3675

 

40 yard at 4.51 and OLB /DE....the kid is a great athlete and can play!

 

 

This is from his Junior year. 6'5" and will put on 30 to 40 by the time his starts to make an impact at NU. A rush end with size and speed. Congrats to the staff on a great find. I guess when you are Indiana and have 83 dropped on you, recruits may run for the hills.

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