Ron Franklin true D-Bag

[I am I]

Unfortunately the wussification of our society has caused things like this to be a big deal when its really not. Instead of crying to management,(a RAMPANT problem these days!) she should have shot him down with a snappy comeback, and called it good. Firing him and possibly ruining a 35 yr career over something like this is ridiculous. It should have to go FAR beyond what it did to even consider that.

 

Wake up. This isn't 1965. It's not like people don't know it's ignorant to call a colleague by a deprecating name, ESPECIALLY when it's gender-related. Cunningham is a grownup. He knows very well that discrimination has no place at the office. In fact, he was warned about it a few years back when he did it to someone else. If he can't control himself, management has an obligation - by federal law - to control him.

 

ESPN is really having to deal with this a lot in the past few years. Tony Kornheiser (Placed in Time Out), Harold Reynolds (Fired), and Steve Phillips (Fired) to name just a few.

 

Yep. They do not exactly foster a corporate culture of non-discrimination, do they? And we're not hearing about race- or age- or religion-based issues, it's always sex-based. Sadly, many corporations with these kinds of problems never truly learn. They foster a culture of permissiveness and your wives, daughters, mothers, sisters, girlfriends, nieces and friends are the ones who pay.

 

In Nebraska, White Women are the single largest demographic of charge-filers. Does anyone know why this is? I'll bet Ron Franklin does.

 

I remember a guy (I think it was Rush Limbaugh) that was forced to resign from ESPN after making remarks about Donovan McNabb starting in the NFL. Now he has his own show.

 

Pretty sure Rush Limbaugh was on his radio show when he made that remark.

 

Are you sure? Link

 

rush has been on the air for 21 straight yrs and has over 19 million daily listeners.

[knapplc]

Moving to the Lounge....

[308_Husker]

Unfortunately the wussification of our society has caused things like this to be a big deal when its really not. Instead of crying to management,(a RAMPANT problem these days!) she should have shot him down with a snappy comeback, and called it good. Firing him and possibly ruining a 35 yr career over something like this is ridiculous. It should have to go FAR beyond what it did to even consider that.

 

Wake up. This isn't 1965. It's not like people don't know it's ignorant to call a colleague by a deprecating name, ESPECIALLY when it's gender-related. Cunningham is a grownup. He knows very well that discrimination has no place at the office. In fact, he was warned about it a few years back when he did it to someone else. If he can't control himself, management has an obligation - by federal law - to control him.

 

ESPN is really having to deal with this a lot in the past few years. Tony Kornheiser (Placed in Time Out), Harold Reynolds (Fired), and Steve Phillips (Fired) to name just a few.

 

Yep. They do not exactly foster a corporate culture of non-discrimination, do they? And we're not hearing about race- or age- or religion-based issues, it's always sex-based. Sadly, many corporations with these kinds of problems never truly learn. They foster a culture of permissiveness and your wives, daughters, mothers, sisters, girlfriends, nieces and friends are the ones who pay.

 

In Nebraska, White Women are the single largest demographic of charge-filers. Does anyone know why this is? I'll bet Ron Franklin does.

 

I remember a guy (I think it was Rush Limbaugh) that was forced to resign from ESPN after making remarks about Donovan McNabb starting in the NFL. Now he has his own show.

 

Pretty sure Rush Limbaugh was on his radio show when he made that remark.

 

Are you sure? Link

 

rush has been on the air for 21 straight yrs and has over 19 million daily listeners.

 

He also served a position on ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown pregame show, then proceeded to resign after making racist remarks about McNabb.

[deedsker15]

[Minnesota_husker]

I think the real cause for concern here is that Knappy makes his circles starting at the bottom.

 

That is just weird and not natural.

 

I am not sure how to feel.

[mmmtodd]

I think the real cause for concern here is that Knappy makes his circles starting at the bottom.

 

That is just weird and not natural.

 

I am not sure how to feel.

 

make a circle with your mouse. do it in mspaint if you must. where did it 'start' from?

[huskerSoldier321]

(relating to my job). Stuff like this is one reason why they don't let women in the infantry. hell some of the stuff we say would make most women break down and cry. Though I have met a few women soldiers that would put Franklin to shame. This isn't a perfect world we live in. She is a women in a football world. She needs to grow a pair and throw a comeback at the old man. That's how a women gets respect among men. Insted of running to the higher up crying making complaints. Now how many men wanna work with her. They have to watch what they say cause the whistle blower is around. I am no way trying to justifie what Franklin said to her as far as the A-hole comment. That was wrong. I just don't like how she handled the situation.

[The Snork]

Finally something to like about the guy. LOLZ!

[TXHSKR]

My link

 

Franklin is no longer an employee of ESPN aka the "Mothership." Now can they look at getting rid of Dr. Lou?

[knapplc]

Maybe we can get Mark May to call someone sweetcakes, too.

[HuskerNMO]

(relating to my job). Stuff like this is one reason why they don't let women in the infantry. hell some of the stuff we say would make most women break down and cry. Though I have met a few women soldiers that would put Franklin to shame. This isn't a perfect world we live in. She is a women in a football world. She needs to grow a pair and throw a comeback at the old man. That's how a women gets respect among men. Insted of running to the higher up crying making complaints. Now how many men wanna work with her. They have to watch what they say cause the whistle blower is around. I am no way trying to justifie what Franklin said to her as far as the A-hole comment. That was wrong. I just don't like how she handled the situation.

 

While I appreciate the sacrifices that our servicemen make, I fail to see why their sacrifice gives them the right to treat people like crap and think it's okay. Because you're "men" and can say stuff that "would make most women break down and cry", acting like that doesn't make one a man or tough, it just makes them look like an ignorant douchebag IMO.

 

A women does not need to earn respect by "throwing" a comeback, a woman, or anyone else for that matter, should get respect because they are a human. Why should someone have to earn the respect of people who act like a-holes? Why does anyone care what those type of people respect anyway?

 

[mmmtodd]

(relating to my job). Stuff like this is one reason why they don't let women in the infantry. hell some of the stuff we say would make most women break down and cry. Though I have met a few women soldiers that would put Franklin to shame. This isn't a perfect world we live in. She is a women in a football world. She needs to grow a pair and throw a comeback at the old man. That's how a women gets respect among men. Insted of running to the higher up crying making complaints. Now how many men wanna work with her. They have to watch what they say cause the whistle blower is around. I am no way trying to justifie what Franklin said to her as far as the A-hole comment. That was wrong. I just don't like how she handled the situation.

 

While I appreciate the sacrifices that our servicemen make, I fail to see why their sacrifice gives them the right to treat people like crap and think it's okay. Because you're "men" and can say stuff that "would make most women break down and cry", acting like that doesn't make one a man or tough, it just makes them look like an ignorant douchebag IMO.

 

A women does not need to earn respect by "throwing" a comeback, a woman, or anyone else for that matter, should get respect because they are a human. Why should someone have to earn the respect of people who act like a-holes? Why does anyone care what those type of people respect anyway?

 

 

 

i served, and its not that its used as an excuse to treat people like crap. in fact, 99.9% of the time its a sign of affection. i had a first sergeant that used to say nothing will ever get done unless you use more cuss and derogatory words than the actual words of your order. the point 321 is trying to make is that with the stigma or whatever surrounding the equal treatment of women, treating everyone the same can actually come back and bite you in the ass if said woman gets upset at any point. people act like they want a level playing field, but its still slanted, and not the way you think. the reason a lot of women in the military are treated 'different' isnt because they are thought of as less of a soldier or what have you, its because they are a grenade with no pin.

[HuskerNMO]

(relating to my job). Stuff like this is one reason why they don't let women in the infantry. hell some of the stuff we say would make most women break down and cry. Though I have met a few women soldiers that would put Franklin to shame. This isn't a perfect world we live in. She is a women in a football world. She needs to grow a pair and throw a comeback at the old man. That's how a women gets respect among men. Insted of running to the higher up crying making complaints. Now how many men wanna work with her. They have to watch what they say cause the whistle blower is around. I am no way trying to justifie what Franklin said to her as far as the A-hole comment. That was wrong. I just don't like how she handled the situation.

 

While I appreciate the sacrifices that our servicemen make, I fail to see why their sacrifice gives them the right to treat people like crap and think it's okay. Because you're "men" and can say stuff that "would make most women break down and cry", acting like that doesn't make one a man or tough, it just makes them look like an ignorant douchebag IMO.

 

A women does not need to earn respect by "throwing" a comeback, a woman, or anyone else for that matter, should get respect because they are a human. Why should someone have to earn the respect of people who act like a-holes? Why does anyone care what those type of people respect anyway?

 

 

 

i served, and its not that its used as an excuse to treat people like crap. in fact, 99.9% of the time its a sign of affection. i had a first sergeant that used to say nothing will ever get done unless you use more cuss and derogatory words than the actual words of your order. the point 321 is trying to make is that with the stigma or whatever surrounding the equal treatment of women, treating everyone the same can actually come back and bite you in the ass if said woman gets upset at any point. people act like they want a level playing field, but its still slanted, and not the way you think. the reason a lot of women in the military are treated 'different' isnt because they are thought of as less of a soldier or what have you, its because they are a grenade with no pin.

 

I've heard many abusive parents and husbands make the same arguments, "I only do it because I love her\them". Not saying this is always true, but in my experiences the people who resort to tactics like your sergeant are typically just not intelligent or dedicated enough to motivate people without using intimidation or holding their power over their head. And typically they are just passing down what has been dumped on them in the past. I grew up in that environment, and think that there are always better ways to accomplish things. The true measure of a persons integrity and honor is found in the way they treat those lower, or weaker than themselves is my experience.

[mmmtodd]

im defending the military side, not ron franklin, or abusive people, or what have you.

 

you opened up about something you clearly state you know nothing of. im simply trying to provide perspective. i worked with several women, one that was actually a team leader of mine in afghanistan, during my time in. they got treated exactly the same, and dished it out exactly the same. im still great friends with her, shes an assistant chief at offutt afb fire department on the civilian side now. i never personally experienced problems, but saw from afar several incidents where women were able to turn the tables on men that once considered themselves trusted teammates. its a whole 'nother can of worms, but it amazes me that people expect everything to go hunky dory between men and women, when if you look around this board and the very reason it exists (college sports) they are kept separate. it boggles me.

[HUSKER 37]

Is it wrong that I really, really miss being called "sweetcakes"?

 

 

But there is this really old Mexican Woman at work that almost allways hits me in the shoulder after she flirts with me...And sometimes gives me candy.