scarletNcream Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm not ready to throw Paterno under the bus on this. I don't know the guy, but I have a hard time thinking he's the type of person who could know about something as sick as what Sandusky did, not go public with it, and actually be able to live with himself. I'd like to think very, very few people are that type of person. The evidence doesn't look good in this situation. It seems that JoePa was informed in 2002 by the Grad Asst (I forget his name) and all JoePa did was tell his superior. At a minimum Paterno was required by Pennsylvania law to call the police. But this wasn't the first time Joe had learned troubling things about Sandusky. There were allegations in 1998, FOUR YEARS before the most inflammatory incident in the PSU locker room, which led to Sandusky's resignation - a resignation about which Paterno said nothing despite Sandusky's decades of employment. It would be the same as Charlie McBride suddenly, mysteriously leaving in 1996 and Osborne saying absolutely nothing about it. Despite these instances, JoePa allowed Sandusky access to the program, the facilities and the players as recently as last week. That is inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable. You're right. I had only heard what ABC News was reporting on the matter, and they haven't mentioned much about Paterno, but the allegations outlined elsewhere do, and if the allegations are true, then I guess he really is that type of person. I know nobody wants to be the one to open the can of worms, but at some point moral values have to be more important than the value of the brand you represent. This Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm not ready to throw Paterno under the bus on this. I don't know the guy, but I have a hard time thinking he's the type of person who could know about something as sick as what Sandusky did, not go public with it, and actually be able to live with himself. I'd like to think very, very few people are that type of person. The evidence doesn't look good in this situation. It seems that JoePa was informed in 2002 by the Grad Asst (I forget his name) and all JoePa did was tell his superior. At a minimum Paterno was required by Pennsylvania law to call the police. But this wasn't the first time Joe had learned troubling things about Sandusky. There were allegations in 1998, FOUR YEARS before the most inflammatory incident in the PSU locker room, which led to Sandusky's resignation - a resignation about which Paterno said nothing despite Sandusky's decades of employment. It would be the same as Charlie McBride suddenly, mysteriously leaving in 1996 and Osborne saying absolutely nothing about it. Despite these instances, JoePa allowed Sandusky access to the program, the facilities and the players as recently as last week. That is inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable. Sean Callahan mentioned on his Twitter that Mike McQueary (WR's coach) was the grad assistant that reported Sandusky years ago. Coincidence that he was promoted to a full assistant? I don't know anymore. Quote Link to comment
Mulletpelini Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 wow, joe's one son (not jay) is trying to set up an off campus press conference for Joe to speak. Which would be a terminable offense if I were his boss. That is a very bold, and a very unwise, move by Paterno. Nothing he has to say right now can be of any benefit to anyone. This needs to go to trial. He'll have ample time to tell his side of the story at that point. I cannot imagine what he has to say that is worth taking this step. Unless he's wanting to say he's stepping down. That is highly likely, but still stupid. Today is not the day for Joe to go rogue. Although if he did step down (thus the reason he's trying to speak out), he could alleviate a lot of the pressure directed at the University by being the sacrificial lamb similar to what Tressel did for OSU. It would allow for some healing before the weekend to allow the focus to be put on him as opposed to the University and the team. Americans have always loved to pin the blame on the lone shooter. Quote Link to comment
PAHuskerFan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 wow, joe's one son (not jay) is trying to set up an off campus press conference for Joe to speak. Which would be a terminable offense if I were his boss. That is a very bold, and a very unwise, move by Paterno. Nothing he has to say right now can be of any benefit to anyone. This needs to go to trial. He'll have ample time to tell his side of the story at that point. I cannot imagine what he has to say that is worth taking this step. I'm resigning Joe's son Scott just told Foxnews in philly that his dad will be on the sideline Sat. vs Nebraska Quote Link to comment
HeyBurke Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 wow, joe's one son (not jay) is trying to set up an off campus press conference for Joe to speak. Which would be a terminable offense if I were his boss. That is a very bold, and a very unwise, move by Paterno. Nothing he has to say right now can be of any benefit to anyone. This needs to go to trial. He'll have ample time to tell his side of the story at that point. I cannot imagine what he has to say that is worth taking this step. I'm resigning Joe's son Scott just told Foxnews in philly that his dad will be on the sideline Sat. vs Nebraska I think that's a bad idea. I can't imagine any Penn State or Nebraska fan that is at that game will be anything but hostile towards him. I wouldn't go as far as saying there will be any violence, but there will be plenty of boos. Quote Link to comment
illnino Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 If this game is played as scheduled, it will be one of the more ugly, sick feelings I've ever had watching a game, regardless of outcome. Yeah, even though Nebraska, nor the PSU players, had anything to do with this horrible scandal, I'm not really looking forward to this game at all. Quote Link to comment
MJSkers Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 "Joseph Vincent Paterno: Educator, Coach, Humanitarian." "They ask me what I'd like written about me when I'm gone. I hope they write I made Penn State a better place, not just that I was a good football coach." Paterno's quotes on the wall behind that statue. Hypocrite. I'm not ready to throw Paterno under the bus on this. I don't know the guy, but I have a hard time thinking he's the type of person who could know about something as sick as what Sandusky did, not go public with it, and actually be able to live with himself. I'd like to think very, very few people are that type of person. He testified to a grand jury that he did know about it and reported it to his higher ups. If you have the stomach....here is the Attorney General's report.... LINK Quote Link to comment
General Blackshirt Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Oh my gosh people are retarded. Quote Link to comment
Landomatic Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Oh my gosh people are retarded. ??? Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It won't be cancelled imho purely for monetary reasons. Yes, this whole situation transcends money, but still...home football games for Penn State are huge money in the bank. Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It is also very likely that this Saturday was supposed to be their Senior Day, since it's their last home game of the year. If they play, who takes these kids out on the field, shakes their hand, hugs them, and thanks them for their honest contributions to the team? And for the players moving forward, how do they ever trust another coach? Do they all get penalty-free transfers? Are they forced to stay at PSU? This is an ugly situation and really just a no-win scenario for everybody. I hope they don't forfeit the game over, but I would understand if they did. NCAA says that any coaching changes (for any reason) or cancellation of a sport allows the students a penalty-free transfer. Any other reason for transfer is up to the school's discretion. I believe those are the only two obligatory ways out penalty free besides graduation (read Russel Wilson) and even that is enforced at the conference level. Quote Link to comment
broganreynik Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It is also very likely that this Saturday was supposed to be their Senior Day, since it's their last home game of the year. If they play, who takes these kids out on the field, shakes their hand, hugs them, and thanks them for their honest contributions to the team? And for the players moving forward, how do they ever trust another coach? Do they all get penalty-free transfers? Are they forced to stay at PSU? This is an ugly situation and really just a no-win scenario for everybody. I hope they don't forfeit the game over, but I would understand if they did. NCAA says that any coaching changes (for any reason) or cancellation of a sport allows the students a penalty-free transfer. Any other reason for transfer is up to the school's discretion. I believe those are the only two obligatory ways out penalty free besides graduation (read Russel Wilson) and even that is enforced at the conference level. Is this a recent thing? When Ryan Mallett transferred from Michigan to Arkansas he actually fought to not have to sit out and still had to. Quote Link to comment
PAHuskerFan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/penn_state/133456128.html Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It is also very likely that this Saturday was supposed to be their Senior Day, since it's their last home game of the year. If they play, who takes these kids out on the field, shakes their hand, hugs them, and thanks them for their honest contributions to the team? And for the players moving forward, how do they ever trust another coach? Do they all get penalty-free transfers? Are they forced to stay at PSU? This is an ugly situation and really just a no-win scenario for everybody. I hope they don't forfeit the game over, but I would understand if they did. NCAA says that any coaching changes (for any reason) or cancellation of a sport allows the students a penalty-free transfer. Any other reason for transfer is up to the school's discretion. I believe those are the only two obligatory ways out penalty free besides graduation (read Russel Wilson) and even that is enforced at the conference level. Is this a recent thing? When Ryan Mallett transferred from Michigan to Arkansas he actually fought to not have to sit out and still had to. It has existed for a while now but it is enforced at the conference level and every one seems to interpret it differently. I believe the intent is to keep coaches from poaching athletes so most have a clause explicitly stating that in-conference transfers have to sit out. The SEC is rougher than most where I believe they make everyone sit out a year. I could be wrong but that is my understanding. Quote Link to comment
darkhorse85 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I wonder when the civil suits will start rolling in. Quote Link to comment
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