TheKiD Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've decided to take Corey McKeon's side on everything from now on. This is the only guy remaining on the team that I truly trust to make a big play if we need it and he's a very honest kid. If he believes in Callahan then we all should. Quote Link to comment
NamelessHusker Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? Quote Link to comment
Redman Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? Sure you can understand it, but do you know the feeling of what it was like to be shot at in Vietnam by reading it in a book? Have you seen Elvis in concert or can you get the same feeling from listening to his records? Is reading about the scene at Studio 54 the same as, talking into Andy Warhols gold phone in the basement of the night club? Can you read the bible and know what it would be like to actually sit before Christ? You can understand and believe, but it is not the same as being there. NU fan will come and go, some will take it more seriously than others, and some will say it is just football, but in the end they are all NU fans. How serious they decide to take is up to them, not for me to question...it is their right. Quote Link to comment
formerfan Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? Sure you can understand it, but do you know the feeling of what it was like to be shot at in Vietnam by reading it in a book? Have you seen Elvis in concert or can you get the same feeling from listening to his records? Is reading about the scene at Studio 54 the same as, talking into Andy Warhols gold phone in the basement of the night club? Can you read the bible and know what it would be like to actually sit before Christ? You can understand and believe, but it is not the same as being there. NU fan will come and go, some will take it more seriously than others, and some will say it is just football, but in the end they are all NU fans. How serious they decide to take is up to them, not for me to question...it is their right. Freaking awesome post!! WOW, couldnt have said it any better As for what Nameless can understand or not, he has been subscribing to puds definition of "progress," (ie 10-3 bad, 5-6 good ) so that should explain why he is having a difficult time understanding this. I can read a book about brain surgery, but I certainly have no idea what its like to be a surgeon. Quote Link to comment
rawhide Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I don't know I couldn't sit through the invasion scene of Saving Private Ryan. But I didn't participate in D-Day since I was born in 53. Just to be fair I felt nauseous watching Elvis movies also. Now Heyzeus, he's my man. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? From the Vietnam Vets I know, they'll pretty much tell you that not only will you not ever understand it entirely you also will never be able to ever read what Vietnam was all about. Of course, I'm not going even begin to compare it to NU football because well the comparison is assanine. They said no movie or event can ever depict the things that really went on. Again, no comparison to NU football tradition at all. But, you are the one that brought it up. In the grand scheme of life, you can never compare something that's supposed to be as happy and heartwarming to something as ugly and tragic as Vietnam. Vietnam was serious where tons of lives were lost. NU football is just a game. After each Saturday, we put our red away and go to work again on Monday. For a lot of guys, they'll never be the same who were in Nam!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment
Eric the Red Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 i really am hoping for a win.....but if they lose the out crys will be deafening! let's hope they git r' done! hunter I don't even want to think about it. More fuel to the fire Quote Link to comment
rawhide Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 As a precautionary measure the goalposts will be manufactured out of balsa wood just for the KSU game. Didn't BC cover that in the press conference????? Quote Link to comment
macroboy Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I had to stop reading this post cause it got a little out of hand but I do think the quotes that former fan brought up are disturbing. The one about the players (yes it does sound like he's placing some blame) also implies Kansas has more talent than us. I don't buy that. ALso, about changing culture, enviroment, all of that. I'm not sure I like the change he's making. I really hope there is a light at the end of this tunnel. The recruiting classes seem to imply there is hope but Callahan should be under fire. It has been 2 years of embarrasssing firsts, and the nds of great streaks. Getting 40 hung on you by Kansas is not OK. Quote Link to comment
NamelessHusker Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? Sure you can understand it, but do you know the feeling of what it was like to be shot at in Vietnam by reading it in a book? Have you seen Elvis in concert or can you get the same feeling from listening to his records? Is reading about the scene at Studio 54 the same as, talking into Andy Warhols gold phone in the basement of the night club? Can you read the bible and know what it would be like to actually sit before Christ? You can understand and believe, but it is not the same as being there. NU fan will come and go, some will take it more seriously than others, and some will say it is just football, but in the end they are all NU fans. How serious they decide to take is up to them, not for me to question...it is their right. Freaking awesome post!! WOW, couldnt have said it any better As for what Nameless can understand or not, he has been subscribing to puds definition of "progress," (ie 10-3 bad, 5-6 good ) so that should explain why he is having a difficult time understanding this. I can read a book about brain surgery, but I certainly have no idea what its like to be a surgeon. You're all class Formerfan. Please stop it, i can't take it anymore. Your killing me with your kindness and gentle ways Quote Link to comment
hack Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Callahan knows as much about NU tradition as anyone. Many people push it in his face daily so he has to assimilate some of it. Disagree as much as anybody can. By him not understanding the traditions of NU-OU rivalry (throwing oranges, ruffneks), he disgraced himself and embarrassed the program with his actions at OU last year, just one instance. Does this quote make it sound like he understands, embraces, and RESPECTS the NU traditions, "I did everything I could to make a change in a program, and a culture and an environment that we're dealing with." I actually agree with Former on this. Plus, you can not read up-on or hear about the NU tradition, you must have lived it. Callahan was not around for Tagge/Rogers years or the Gill, Rozier, and Fryar years. He was not around to feel the heartbreak when we missed a field goal and lost to FSU. He was not around for Cory Schlesinger bulldozing in 2 scores the next year to bring the trophy home. Nor was he there through the Frazier years, or for the devastating death of Brook Berringer. NU fans have lived these moments. No amount of reading up on, or learning can compare. He may respect tradition (arguable), but IMO he will never completely understand it. I never grew up in the Vietnam Era, the Elvis Pressley era, the Disco era, World War II, the oil embargo. Wht does that mean for me? That i can never understand? I never lived through the days of Jesus Christ, does that mean that no matter how hard i try, i just won't get it? Sure you can understand it, but do you know the feeling of what it was like to be shot at in Vietnam by reading it in a book? Have you seen Elvis in concert or can you get the same feeling from listening to his records? Is reading about the scene at Studio 54 the same as, talking into Andy Warhols gold phone in the basement of the night club? Can you read the bible and know what it would be like to actually sit before Christ? You can understand and believe, but it is not the same as being there. NU fan will come and go, some will take it more seriously than others, and some will say it is just football, but in the end they are all NU fans. How serious they decide to take is up to them, not for me to question...it is their right. Freaking awesome post!! WOW, couldnt have said it any better As for what Nameless can understand or not, he has been subscribing to puds definition of "progress," (ie 10-3 bad, 5-6 good ) so that should explain why he is having a difficult time understanding this. I can read a book about brain surgery, but I certainly have no idea what its like to be a surgeon. You're all class Formerfan. Please stop it, i can't take it anymore. Your killing me with your kindness and gentle ways no post really. i just wanted to see how many quotes i could get in one post. it's all good! Quote Link to comment
Huskrz65 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 For a lot of guys, they'll never be the same who were in Nam!!!!!!!! I just wanted to snip that part of your post, Junior. Having a really good friend of mine who was a Navy SEAL during Viet Nam, I find a lot of what each of you posted about the conflict meaningful. Being a Desert Storm vet, I am still serving with the Navy. I don't mean to get off on a tangent, but those that have posted about war and Husker football, and the comparison between the two, have hit the nail on the head. I used to wake up from nightmares sweating, months after Desert Storm. War just does that to you. Never have I been awoken by a Husker loss, although I may have lost some sleep. Husker Football will right itself, in time, and carry on it's storied tradition of excellence on the field. Edit: I wrote this kinda late last night and the old brain was doing flashbacks. I am not looking for sympathy in any way, shape or form. I would also like to add that I have not served in the recent conflict in Iraq, but have the deepest respect for those that have or are curently. For those families that have lost loved ones, you have my heart-felt condolences. Quote Link to comment
formerfan Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 You're all class Formerfan. Please stop it, i can't take it anymore. Your killing me with your kindness and gentle ways If you want to see the epitome of class, got to the "Offending Posts Thread." You will find plenty of your classiest posts there Quote Link to comment
hack Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 this thread has gotten crazier than Tom Cruise after reading one of his big L. Ron Hubbard picture books! Quote Link to comment
Huskrz65 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 and it's only going to get better! Quote Link to comment
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