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Player: Brandon Vandenburg

Hometown: Palm Desert, CA

School: College of the Desert

Position: TE

Height: 6'6"

Weight: 260

40 time: 4.75

Offers: California, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Kansas State, Maryland, Miami (FL), Nebraska, Ole Miss, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

 

Rivals: :star :star :star

247: :star :star :star

Scout: :star :star :star

ESPN: :star :star :star :star

 

Will visit 1/11/2012.

 

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/92307/highlights/19200374

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Beau contingency plan. Beau commits on the 19th, we never hear of the kid again.

 

Beau doesn't, we have a tight end committing on the 20th.

 

 

are you sure its that simple... the kid has a ton of offers from many many good schools... not just the standard mid major programs......

 

saw he even has an offer from Kentucky...!!!!

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Of the offers I see in the list only Texas A&M would be comparable to Nebr. I'm not 100% certain but I think they already have about 34 verbals which means they'd have to boot someone. Of that number I think 8 or 9 will enroll in Jan. to count against this years numbers. Imagine having Beau and Brandon on the field at the same time in Husker red!

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Of the offers I see in the list only Texas A&M would be comparable to Nebr. I'm not 100% certain but I think they already have about 34 verbals which means they'd have to boot someone. Of that number I think 8 or 9 will enroll in Jan. to count against this years numbers. Imagine having Beau and Brandon on the field at the same time in Husker red!

Attack of the Killer B's.........

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Of the offers I see in the list only Texas A&M would be comparable to Nebr. I'm not 100% certain but I think they already have about 34 verbals which means they'd have to boot someone. Of that number I think 8 or 9 will enroll in Jan. to count against this years numbers. Imagine having Beau and Brandon on the field at the same time in Husker red!

 

 

in your mind A&M might be the only one comparable... but we have no idea what the is kid is thinking and kids go to a school for various reasons.... would like him to come or whatever but its not like he hurting for offers and i wouldnt really call him our sure fire back up plan

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I know a lot of people say :espnsucks: ...but they just put out their JUCO ratings and they have him as the #9 JUCO prospect in the nation, above Beau Sandland.

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I know a lot of people say :espnsucks: ...but they just put out their JUCO ratings and they have him as the #9 JUCO prospect in the nation, above Beau Sandland.

Interesting to say the least.

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Any chance we take both Vandenburg AND Sandland?

 

not a chance.

I'm guessing if Sandland commits we don't look at Vandenburg. And since Sandland decides first if he goes elsewhere we purse Vandenburg like crazy.

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Damn near a must get now. From info above it sounded like us and Miami had him as our backup for Sandland, so with the Usuck getting Sandland I would like to think we have a good shot at this guy. Correct?

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Damn near a must get now. From info above it sounded like us and Miami had him as our backup for Sandland, so with the Usuck getting Sandland I would like to think we have a good shot at this guy. Correct?

 

I would agree C N Red. I think we had a legit shot at landing Vandenberg, even more now that Sandland is out of the picture.

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If we don't get this guy I wonder if we will employ some Hback formations to supplement the TE formations. We have a number of guys that could play that spot. Any fullback, Long and I think Cross could do some things at the hback position along with playing RB.

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If we somehow don't land him, I don't see how Long, Cotton or Sutton couldn't do just as good, if not better on the field than either of these two guys. Long has shown some talent this year. Sutton was the "next Reed". Cotton is/was suppose to be better than his brother.

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If we somehow don't land him, I don't see how Long, Cotton or Sutton couldn't do just as good, if not better on the field than either of these two guys. Long has shown some talent this year. Sutton was the "next Reed". Cotton is/was suppose to be better than his brother.

maybe they will be but none of them have played much and i dont think the staff would be going after jucos if these guys were guaranteed to be able to step in with no drop off, but i hope they do step in and play great

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If we somehow don't land him, I don't see how Long, Cotton or Sutton couldn't do just as good, if not better on the field than either of these two guys. Long has shown some talent this year. Sutton was the "next Reed". Cotton is/was suppose to be better than his brother.

 

A walk on and two 2 star guys? Sutton may have been a low 3 star. Are not going to give you what Sandland or Vandenburg do in my opinion. Do I hope they do? Heck yes i do. But we continue to play checkers while the big boys play chess. What other top 15 school has that lack of depth and talent all over the place?

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If we somehow don't land him, I don't see how Long, Cotton or Sutton couldn't do just as good, if not better on the field than either of these two guys. Long has shown some talent this year. Sutton was the "next Reed". Cotton is/was suppose to be better than his brother.

maybe they will be but none of them have played much and i dont think the staff would be going after jucos if these guys were guaranteed to be able to step in with no drop off, but i hope they do step in and play great

 

You never know until they hit the field. Same goes for the JUCO's. Not every JUCO comes out to what you expected them to. The ball game is the same at the levels, but the level of competition is much higher. Unless your in the WAC lol.

 

 

A walk on and two 2 star guys? Sutton may have been a low 3 star. Are not going to give you what Sandland or Vandenburg do in my opinion. Do I hope they do? Heck yes i do. But we continue to play checkers while the big boys play chess. What other top 15 school has that lack of depth and talent all over the place?

 

Here we go with the "star" rating again. Once they are recruited, stars are completely irrelevant and relies strictly on coaching. Converting and molding those kids to fit your offense/defense and understand the X's and O's, understanding whats going on, on the other side of the ball and being able be in position when a play is originally called or when its adjusted. It would have been nice to have a kid in here with experience, but I also liked what Long was able to show while he was in. Everyone doubted B Cotton for a long time, and look how he came out. One of the best TE's in the league. Not the best, but he is up there. Great blocker and a good receiver. It also falls down to how much the kid is willing to adapt knowledge, and how well they are not stuck in their "way" of doing things and want to improve.

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Here we go with the "star" rating again. Once they are recruited, stars are completely irrelevant and relies strictly on coaching. Converting and molding those kids to fit your offense/defense and understand the X's and O's, understanding whats going on, on the other side of the ball and being able be in position when a play is originally called or when its adjusted. It would have been nice to have a kid in here with experience, but I also liked what Long was able to show while he was in. Everyone doubted B Cotton for a long time, and look how he came out. One of the best TE's in the league. Not the best, but he is up there. Great blocker and a good receiver. It also falls down to how much the kid is willing to adapt knowledge, and how well they are not stuck in their "way" of doing things and want to improve.

They get those stars by having more potential. Not all live up to the potential and help feed into the "stars don't matter" thing - but on day 1, Vandenberg and Sandland have a far higher ceiling than Long/Cotton/Sutton. Whether they reach it or not is on the coaching staff...but since not many ever reach it...I'd rather see the staff get to work w/ someone that begins farther down the path than the other. If this was last year, it wouldn't sting as much. But we need someone contributing on day 1. Vand/Sand have a better chance of being at a higher level than the 3 mentioned above. Doesn't mean the 3 won't be great someday...but odds they are great for the 2013 UCLA game is much lower than either of these recruits.

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Here we go with the "star" rating again. Once they are recruited, stars are completely irrelevant and relies strictly on coaching. Converting and molding those kids to fit your offense/defense and understand the X's and O's, understanding whats going on, on the other side of the ball and being able be in position when a play is originally called or when its adjusted. It would have been nice to have a kid in here with experience, but I also liked what Long was able to show while he was in. Everyone doubted B Cotton for a long time, and look how he came out. One of the best TE's in the league. Not the best, but he is up there. Great blocker and a good receiver. It also falls down to how much the kid is willing to adapt knowledge, and how well they are not stuck in their "way" of doing things and want to improve.

They get those stars by having more potential. Not all live up to the potential and help feed into the "stars don't matter" thing - but on day 1, Vandenberg and Sandland have a far higher ceiling than Long/Cotton/Sutton. Whether they reach it or not is on the coaching staff...but since not many ever reach it...I'd rather see the staff get to work w/ someone that begins farther down the path than the other. If this was last year, it wouldn't sting as much. But we need someone contributing on day 1. Vand/Sand have a better chance of being at a higher level than the 3 mentioned above. Doesn't mean the 3 won't be great someday...but odds they are great for the 2013 UCLA game is much lower than either of these recruits.

 

No I understand that. You never know if these kids will just have that natural talent to go out and perform right away, if they aren't given that chance. When Long was on the field, you knew it. Announcers called his name on a couple TD's.

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Here we go with the "star" rating again. Once they are recruited, stars are completely irrelevant and relies strictly on coaching. Converting and molding those kids to fit your offense/defense and understand the X's and O's, understanding whats going on, on the other side of the ball and being able be in position when a play is originally called or when its adjusted. It would have been nice to have a kid in here with experience, but I also liked what Long was able to show while he was in. Everyone doubted B Cotton for a long time, and look how he came out. One of the best TE's in the league. Not the best, but he is up there. Great blocker and a good receiver. It also falls down to how much the kid is willing to adapt knowledge, and how well they are not stuck in their "way" of doing things and want to improve.

They get those stars by having more potential. Not all live up to the potential and help feed into the "stars don't matter" thing - but on day 1, Vandenberg and Sandland have a far higher ceiling than Long/Cotton/Sutton. Whether they reach it or not is on the coaching staff...but since not many ever reach it...I'd rather see the staff get to work w/ someone that begins farther down the path than the other. If this was last year, it wouldn't sting as much. But we need someone contributing on day 1. Vand/Sand have a better chance of being at a higher level than the 3 mentioned above. Doesn't mean the 3 won't be great someday...but odds they are great for the 2013 UCLA game is much lower than either of these recruits.

 

No I understand that. You never know if these kids will just have that natural talent to go out and perform right away, if they aren't given that chance. When Long was on the field, you knew it. Announcers called his name on a couple TD's.

I think Long will get plenty of playing time this year - I'm more worried about that other spot. Odd's that Hart can come in and play at that level is low. Sutton doesn't really have the size IMO. I was really hoping for that 6'6" big body to make those tough 3rd down catches Ben has been making for us the last couple of years.

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We are competed with Vanderbilt, UCOO and Tennessee for him. Miami also, but I'm assuming with Sandland they will cool on him. it's doubtful we hear anything from him for a while as he doesn't visit until 1/11 and has other visits until 1/25.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

Per his latest interview, he definitely has great interest in us and hinted that he wouldn't be opposed to committing on an official visit. That's good news, I'll take it.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

This is true. Great run blocker, far better than Sandland in that regard. Not near the route runner, speed burner, or catcher as beauthough.

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Should be one of those instances where we show him the campus and the depth chart and we sign him up. At least I hope.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

This is true. Great run blocker, far better than Sandland in that regard. Not near the route runner, speed burner, or catcher as beauthough.

 

+1. I think this guy is a Ben Cotton type where Sandland was a Reed type. Both are good players in their own regard.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

This is true. Great run blocker, far better than Sandland in that regard. Not near the route runner, speed burner, or catcher as beauthough.

 

+1. I think this guy is a Ben Cotton type where Sandland was a Reed type. Both are good players in their own regard.

Agree. Considering that we missed out on our "Reed type" TE don't be surprised to see Enunwa in that role at times next year.

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So whats the story with this guy? EZ, PaulCrewe, what say u? I'm in full panic mode!

 

The only thing that I know of is that it isn't like we just started talking to him today. We have maintained good contact with him.

This is true. Great run blocker, far better than Sandland in that regard. Not near the route runner, speed burner, or catcher as beauthough.

 

+1. I think this guy is a Ben Cotton type where Sandland was a Reed type. Both are good players in their own regard.

Agree. Considering that we missed out on our "Reed type" TE don't be surprised to see Enunwa in that role at times next year.

 

I think seeing more three wide with a combo of heard and Ameer on the field its more probable than enunwa moving down to TE

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