NUinID Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Last year we mostly played a "field" and "boundary" safety. Smith was usually to the short side of the field (closest to the sideline) while Stafford was usually to the wide side. I think I remember reading that verbiage and concept mentioned in an LJS article a while go. Thanks a bunch for reminding me. As such, I agree with whateveritis1224 that projecting for a traditional FS-SS split doesn't seem to be the best exercise. if CJ is the saftey to drop into the box to stop the run i hope he hits the weight room not sure how effective it would be dropping a 175 pound ex corner into the box compared to cooper, harvey jackson or singleton who are all 200+ but if CJ's the best guy then play him Definitely agree that it would help to get some mass added to him, he looks really skinny. But I think the dude at 175 packs the wallop of a guy 15-20 pounds more than him. He seems like a well-compressed ball of energy based on what coaches and players describe and the limited special teams action I've seen. The guy stonewalled a couple KR's/PR's this year and has showed so far, even with a limited sample size, that he is a sound tackler. To your point, I do think that CJ at 175 would perform better as a safety that plays run-support in the box than Cooper, singleton, and harvey at 200+ (though to be fair, I haven't really seen much of Harvey or Singleton). I know that sounds pretty ridiculous saying a 175lb DB being better in run-support than a 200lb guy in any other circumstance, but that's really how high I think of CJ. I'm drinking the kool-aid big time on this guy and I've seen enough flashes of elite ability to conclude that he looks on course to develop into an elite DB. And If CJ gets to the 190-200 range without losing speed, forget about it. He'll be a blackshirt for a while. mike minter played safety at NU at about 180lbs and then played for a long time in the NFL. Being able to his has little to do with mass. It is nice to have bigger guys, but if they can hit they can hit. Quote Link to comment
Saint Boseph Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Lavonte David is living proof, that size isn't always what makes you the best player. Its mostly technique, knowledge for the game and speed. People said David was too small to play LB in the B1G. He proved them more than wrong. The experts also said he would be way to small to play LB in the Pro's, he is a starting LB for Tampa, and is the 2nd leading tackler in all of NFL. Size isn't everything. As long has he has the technique, the smarts to play the position and understand it 110%, and has the speed to cover the edge when needed, he will be the perfect candidate. Rivals had him at 180lbs leaving High School. I could only imagine him gaining a few pounds since then. Great example. But more often than not, not very many undersized players can make up for the lack of size by excelling in other areas. However Lavonte was one those special ones who could and I think Charles Jackson is one of those guys also. CJ does kind of remind me of a DB version of Lavonte now that you mention him. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 *Bump* Here are the various depth chart guesses from six months ago. This will be useful heading into fall camp. corncraze: Offense QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. Stanton RS. RB - 1. Abdullah, 2. Heard, 3. Cross (short down back) FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Allen (hopefully he gets healthy) WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans WR - 1. Turner, 2. Wullenwaber, 3. A. Moore LT - 1. Sirles, Moudy/A-Rod LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Reeves? C - 1. Pensick, 2. Mark Pelini? RG - 1. A-Rod (move him back to G), 2. Jake Cotton? RT - 1. JUCO hopefully, 2. Qvale TE - JUCO? TE - J. Long Defense DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss DT - 1. Rome, 2. K. Williams DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Curry SLB - 1. T. Brown (used heavily on pass rushes), 2. Afalava/M. Newby MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson Dime - 1. Cooper, 2. Seisay CB - 1. A. Green/Evans (when not at NB), 2. Jean-Baptiste CB - 1. J. Rose/A. Green, 2. Mitchell/Siesay SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Cooper FS - 1. H. Jackson, 2. Cooper Special Teams K - 1. Bondi, 2. some walk-on? P - 1. Bondi, 2. some walk-on? KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner PR - 1. Turner, 2. Bell, 3. A. Moore? Hedley Lamarr: Offense QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. 3. RKIII 4.Stanton RS. RB - 1. Abdullah/ Heard 2. Cross (short down back) 3. Frazier/Taylor(if Newby comes he will be ahead of both) FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Allen (hopefully he gets healthy) WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans WR - 1. Turner, 2. Wullenwaber, 3. A. Moore LT - 1. Sirles, Moudy LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Reeves? C - 1. Thurston, 2. Mark Pelini? RG - 1. Pensick 2. J. Cotton/ A Rod RT - 1. Qvale 2. Sterup TE - J. Long Defense DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss DT - 1. Rome, 2. K Williams/ Valentine DT - 1. Randle 2. Curry SLB - 1. Afalava/ T Brown MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos CB - 1. C. Evans 2. Jean-Baptiste CB - 1. J. Rose/A. Green, 2. Mitchell/Siesay SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Cooper/ Gerry FS - 1. H. Jackson, 2. Cooper/ Singleton Special Teams K - 1. Bondi, 2. S. Lindsay P - 1. Bondi, 2. S. Lindsay KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner/ I wish Heard PR - 1. Abdullah, 2. Bell, 3. Turner Haspula: QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. Stanton RS. RB - 1. Abdullah, 2. Heard, 3. Cross (short down back) 4. King Frazier FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow WR(Z) - 1. Enunwa, 2. Taariq Allen WR(X) - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp 3. Tyler Evans WR(A) - 1. Turner, 2. Westerkamp 3. Wullenwaber LT - 1. Qvale 2. Sirles 3. Brandon Thompson LG - 1. Jake Cotton 2. Price Givens C - 1. Pensick 2. Mark Pelini RG - 1. Rynes Reeves 2. Brodrick Nickens 3. Price Givens RT - 1. Sirles 2. A-Rod 3. Mike Moudy TE - JUCO(Brandon Vandenburg) 2. Jake Long, 3. Trey Foster TE - 1. J. Long, 2. Trey Foster Defense DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss DT - 1. JUCO(Ben Bradley) 2. Chase Rome 3. Kevin Williams DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Curry 3. Thad Randle? SLB - 1. Thomas Brown, 2. Afalava 3. Max Pirmin MLB - 1.David Santos, 2. M. Rose, 3. Trevor Roach WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson Dime - Corey Cooper Left CB - 1. Johnathan Rose, 2. Andrew Green 3. Jean-Bapitiste Right CB - 1. Mohammed Seisay, 2. Josh Mitchell FS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. DJ sIngelton SS - 1. Harvey Jackson, 2.Cooper Special Teams K - 1. Bondi, 2. Lindsay P - 1. Bondi, 2. Lindsay KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner PR - 1. Turner, 2. Bell, 3. A. Moore I remember seeing something that said harvey jackson might transfer Ed Helms: Offense QB - 1. Taylor Martinez, 2. Tommy Armstrong 3. Ron Kellogg III (Would be Johnny Stanton, but he is RS) RB - 1. Ameer Abdullah, 2. Braylon Heard, 3. Imani Cross 4. Adam Taylor/Terrell Newby FB - 1. Andy Janovich, 2. Mike Marrow/C.J. Zimmerer WR - 1. Quincy Enunwa, 2. Taariq Allen 3. Dominic Walker WR - 1. Kenny Bell 2. Jordan Westerkamp 3. Tyler Evans WR - 1. Jamal Turner 2. Alonzo Moore 3. Tyler Wullenwaber LT - 1. Jeremiah Sirles 2. Zach Sterup LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Ryne Reeves 3. Corey Whitaker C - 1. Cole Pensick, 2. Paul Thurston 3. Mark Pelini RG - 1. Jake Cotton 2. Mike Moudy RT - 1. Brent Qvale 2. Andrew Rodriguez/(Hopefully JUCO Matt Finnin) TE - 1. Trey Foster/David Sutton (Hopefully JC Vandenburg or convert Max Pirman?) 2. Greg Hart TE - 1. Jake Long 2. Sam Cotton Defense DE - 1. Jason Ankrah, 2. Greg McMullen DE - 1. Randy Gregory, 2. Avery Moss DT - 1. Thad Randle/Chase Rome 2. Aaron Curry DT - 1. Vincent Valentine, 2. Kevin Williams SLB - 1. Zaire Anderson 2. Jared Afalava MLB - 1. Michael Rose 2. Trevor Roach 3. Courtney Love WLB - 1. David Santos 2. Thomas Brown Nickel - 1. Ciante Evans 2. Daniel Davie Dime - 1. Corey Cooper 2. Andrew Green CB - 1. Mohammed Seisay 2. Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB - 1. Jonathan Rose 2. Josh Mitchell/Andrew Green SS - 1. Harvey Jackson, 2. Corey Cooper FS - 1. Charles Jackson, 2. D.J. Singleton/Leroy Alexander Special Teams K - 1. Mauro Bondi, 2. Spencer Lindsay P - 1. Sam Foltz 2. Mauro Bondi KR - 1. Jamal Turner 2. Braylon Heard 3. Kenny Bell PR - 1. Jordan Westerkamp 2. Alonzo Moore The Dude: QB - Martinez RB - Abdullah -or- Cross -or- Heard FB - Janovich WR - Bell WR - Enunwa WR - Turner TE - Long LT - Qvale LG - Cotton C - Pensick RG - Long RT - Sirles RE - Moss -or- Gregory DT - Valentine DT - Rome -or- Curry LE - Ankrah LB - Anderson LB - Token Walk-on #1 LB - Santos CB - Committee CB - Committee SS - Token Walk-on #2 FS - H. Jackson K - Bondi P - Token Walk-on #3 OregonHuskerMan: Offense QB - 1. Armstrong 2. Martinez RK3 Stanton RB - 1. Heard 2. Abdullah 3. Cross 4. Taylor 5. Newby FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Dom Walker WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans WR - 1. Turner, 2. ZO 3. Wullen LT - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well. LG - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well. C - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well. RG - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well. RT - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well. TE - Sam Cotton / vandenburg / hart / long TE - See above. Defense DE - 1. McMullen, 2Ankrah DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss DT - 1. Curry 2. K. Williams 3. Thad DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Rome SLB - 1. T. Brown , 2. Afalava/M. Newby MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose 3. Love WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson Dime - 1. Cooper, Davie CB - 1. Seisay 2. Jean-Baptiste CB - 1. J. Rose, 2. A. Green, JMitchell SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Leroy Alexander FS - 1. Marcus McWilson, 2. DJ Singleton Special Teams K - 1. Bondi P - 1. Bondi KR - 1. Alonzo 2. Turner PR - 1. Turner, 2. Moore 3. Bell Sir Alexander Henery: DE: 1. Randy Gregory 2. Jason Ankrah DT: 1. Vincent Valentine 2. Kevin Williams DT: 1. Thaddeus Randle 2. Aaron Curry DE: 1. Avery Moss 2. Greg McMullen LOLB: 1. Thomas Brown 2. Jared Afalava MLB: 1. David Santos 2. Michael Rose ROLB: 1. Zaire Anderson 2. Marcus Newby/Josh Banderas/Courtney Love (2 will likely RS) LCB: 1. Jonathan Rose 2. Andrew Green 3. Stanley Jean Baptiste FS: 1. Corey Cooper 2. Leroy Alexander SS: 1. DJ Singleton 2. Harvey Jackson RCB: 1. Charles Jackson 2. Mohammed Seisay 3. Ciante Evans EDIT: If Charles Jackson is sticking at safety then my revised starters in the secondary would be LCB: J. Rose FS: Singleton SS: C. Jackson RCB: Seisay Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Offense: QB: 1. Taylor Martinez 2a. Tommy Armstrong 2b. Johnny Stanton RB: 1. Ameer 2. Cross 3. Taylor 4. Newby 5. Frazier FB: 1a. Zimmerer 1b. Janovich WR: 1. Quincy Enunwa 2. Taariq Allen WR: 1. Jamal Turner 2. Alonzo Moore WR: 1. Kenny Bell 2. Jordan Westerkamp TE: 1. Jake Long 2. Cethan Carter LT: 1. Jeremiah Sirles 2. Qvale G: 1. Jake Cotton 2. Pensick C: 1. Pensick 2. Pelini G: 1. Long 2. Pensick RT: 1. Finnin 2. Kondolo Defense: DE: 1. Ankrah 2. Moss DT: 1. Randle 2. Curry 3. Collins DT: 1. Valentine 2. Nickens 3. Maurice DE: 1. Gregory 2. McMullen 3. Natter Nickel: Ciante CB: 1. Ciante 2. SJB 3. Mitchell 4. Seisay 5. Rose S: 1. Harvey Jackson 2. Gerry 3. Singleton S: 1. Charles Jackson 2. Cooper 3. Green Special Teams: KR: Kenny Bell and Jamal Turner PR: Jamal Turner OR Terrell Newby P: Sam Foltz K: Mauro Bondi Quote Link to comment
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