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Why is there so much support for Armstrong? He played against an FCS team, I don't get it.

Because he looked like a real live college football quarterback. I don't care if you watched him run around and play smear the queer, you can see the difference. I saw him layin out linebackers after he pitched the ball, you'll NEVER see Tmart do that. I don't hate the kid, the difference is just staggering in my eyes.

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Why is there so much support for Armstrong? He played against an FCS team, I don't get it.

Well, the way I see it these are the only options for QB against Illinois   -Taylor Martinez -Tommy Armstrong -A Human Centipede that features 2010 Taylor's legs, Armstrong's arm, and present day

Sorry to change the subject from the word "hate" and its subsequent use or non-use in this thread.   But yes, I notice a lot of negativity going Taylor Martinez's way. Which is unfortunate. First of

Why is there so much support for Armstrong? He played against an FCS team, I don't get it.

People really need to stop saying this. South Dakota State could beat Southern Miss. these FCS teams are starting to be a non gimmie game. They are capable of beating us and yes even better than the bottom rung of the FBS teams.

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Sorry Suh fan, but I cannot understand how anybody would think Ron Kellogg should start over Taylor Martinez or Tommy Armstrong in a spread OPTION offense. He runs slower than molasses in January.

 

The playbook gets much smaller due to RK III's lack of mobility. TA can do it all and throws incredibly tight spirals with velocity, accuracy, and touch. Ultimately against tougher defenses we'll need TA's versatility and RK could struggle. A freshman that fumbled once (and we recovered) is no worse than the fumble or two that TM is prone to per game and his penchant for taking bad sacks.

 

RK III made a bad error himself before halftime, trying to scramble in when he could have thrown the ball away and costing another shot at the TD.

 

Anyone watching the game objectively should plainly see TA has far more God given ability and upside than Ron. The fact that he's our apparent future as a Frosh while RK III is a senior should be the final nail in the coffin of this debate.

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Knoxville Husker; let's just run the Alabama Crimson Tide test on this situation regarding the two co-No. 2 QBs. If either Ron Kellogg III or Tommy Armstrong had to take the reigns for Nebraska facing the hostile #1 ranked Alabama team (3-0) and its explosive defense led by C. J. Mosley, then which of these two would be the right choice (besides Taylor Martinez -- who could also pilot Nebraska's offense in this situation IMHO)? I think Kellogg III has gained way too much weight since last fall. The game would be way too fast for Kellogg III. I would have to close my eyes. Armstrong's improvisational skills though would allow him to survive this swarming and explosive defense -- though that would be a great test too because of the opponent. Still, I like Armstrong's chances of survival versus Kellogg III (not taking anything away from his 8-of-9, 139 yards passing performance yesterday against SD St.).

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Why is there so much support for Armstrong? He played against an FCS team, I don't get it.

People really need to stop saying this. South Dakota State could beat Southern Miss. these FCS teams are starting to be a non gimmie game. They are capable of beating us and yes even better than the bottom rung of the FBS teams.

 

I don't think any FCS team should be taken lightly, but it's getting a little out of hand. North Dakota State made a lot of noise by beating K-State to start the season - but K-State is clearly average this year or worse - they just got manhandled by a Texas team whose coach is as good as gone.

 

This stat has been thrown around a lot, but apparently people need to be reminded - SDSU gave up an average of 411 yards of total offense in their first three games. That was against Butler, North Dakota, and Southeastern Louisiana.

 

This was a bad defense.

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We're really quick to forget what a good job Taylor did in the first two games this year and what we've also seen from it at times last season.

 

It's not time to have an open competition yet. When Taylor returns healthy, sure. Let the guy with the best week of practice win.

 

The first two games? You mean against a Wyoming team which was one of the worst defenses in the country last year and a Southern Miss team that hasn't won a game for how long? How did he do against UCLA? You know, a team on the Huskers' level. I am going to assume you didn't bring up this game because it just proves what Martinez is and has been his whole career: inconsistent. In big games, and when it matters most, he's inconsistent. He's inconsistent from week to week....hell, he's inconsistent series to series.

 

I would love to see what Tommy could do against Illinois. Sure, their defense isn't spectacular, but it would be a much better test than South Dakota State. Although, I will say that South Dakota State would probably give Wyoming a pretty good game and would most likely beat Southern Miss.

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We're really quick to forget what a good job Taylor did in the first two games this year and what we've also seen from it at times last season.

 

It's not time to have an open competition yet. When Taylor returns healthy, sure. Let the guy with the best week of practice win.

 

The first two games? You mean against a Wyoming team which was one of the worst defenses in the country last year and a Southern Miss team that hasn't won a game for how long? How did he do against UCLA? You know, a team on the Huskers' level. I am going to assume you didn't bring up this game because it just proves what Martinez is and has been his whole career: inconsistent. In big games, and when it matters most, he's inconsistent. He's inconsistent from week to week....hell, he's inconsistent series to series.

 

I would love to see what Tommy could do against Illinois. Sure, their defense isn't spectacular, but it would be a much better test than South Dakota State. Although, I will say that South Dakota State would probably give Wyoming a pretty good game and would most likely beat Southern Miss.

He completed 60% of his passes despite several drops and threw for 3 TDs and no INTs.

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The first two games? You mean against a Wyoming team which was one of the worst defenses in the country last year and a Southern Miss team that hasn't won a game for how long? How did he do against UCLA? You know, a team on the Huskers' level. I am going to assume you didn't bring up this game because it just proves what Martinez is and has been his whole career: inconsistent. In big games, and when it matters most, he's inconsistent. He's inconsistent from week to week....hell, he's inconsistent series to series.

 

I would love to see what Tommy could do against Illinois. Sure, their defense isn't spectacular, but it would be a much better test than South Dakota State. Although, I will say that South Dakota State would probably give Wyoming a pretty good game and would most likely beat Southern Miss.

He completed 60% of his passes despite several drops and threw for 3 TDs and no INTs.

 

I don't know if it would have made much of a difference who was our QB against UCLA. Taylor certainly doesn't deserve the blame for that game.

 

But neither does his stat line tell the whole story. If Taylor isn't very good at doing some things, Beck probably won't call them. This would limit our offense but not show up as a negative in Taylor's stats. Sometimes I wonder whether it's more difficult for our OC to gameplan for Taylor than it is for opposing DCs.

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By the way, two things that should probably have shown up on the stat sheet but didn't: would-have-been fumbles. One of them was fortunately ruled a forward pass (I believe?). The other was blown dead due to a false start. I agree largely with the last paragraph there, although the consensus seems to be that Beck blew it calling the UCLA game, unless Taylor was really a lot more hurt than any of us realized. He didn't look it, though?

 

Specifically our passing game was so concentrated on those sideline passes that we never took big shots downfield. We did get the ball in the hands of our playmakers in space but it wasn't enough for that to be our entire plan of attack.

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God I plus one Bucky and I swear I puked a little.

 

Don't get me wrong Tommy looked good, as did RKIII, but how quick we are to eat our own. Taylor is still the starter.

 

Agreed. No way should we bench Martinez. He deserves to be the starter and how soon we forget he lit up the Bruins in the first half last week. And we played a lower-level team today, huge difference people!

 

He didn't light up the bruins at all.

but it's all good because Tommy lit up a team that probably gets torched next week by NDSU as well.

 

Again let me make it clear I liked what I saw from the QBs, yes BOTH of them today, but you are a delusional human our you think today is equal to even what will be seen against Illinois as far as an opposing defense

 

You are correct in the fact that Illinois would be a much tougher test for Armstrong, but with the constant mistakes by a 5th year senior, I think either Armstrong or Kellog would be a better choice from here on out. I remember when Mike Grant was the starter(and a 5th year senior also) and Dr. Tom gave it to Frazier. I also remember Frazier laying an egg at ISU the next week after being crowned the starter. I know there would be bumps along the way and some might be heartbreaking BUT the only thing Taylor has that the other two don't is experience. Armstrong and Kellog are better is every other category that I have seen.

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Sorry Suh fan, but I cannot understand how anybody would think Ron Kellogg should start over Taylor Martinez or Tommy Armstrong in a spread OPTION offense. He runs slower than molasses in January.

 

UCLA runs a spread offense. If Nebraska even has an identity it is 'multiple' imo. Regardless it was one game. Who knows what either of those guys could do over the course of a season and more importantly against top competition. That's where the truth lies. No offense to SDSU.

 

Also I go with instinct. Both of their numbers were similar yes. Both made plays when they needed to. I thought RKIII looked more polished overall. I could care less if TA can run better or not at this point. That was/is the whole trap with Taylor, 'but he can run'. Anyway who's to say how either of these guys would respond after some playing time under their belt and against a top 25 team or any team with a strong/good defense.

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By the way, two things that should probably have shown up on the stat sheet but didn't: would-have-been fumbles. One of them was fortunately ruled a forward pass (I believe?). The other was blown dead due to a false start. I agree largely with the last paragraph there, although the consensus seems to be that Beck blew it calling the UCLA game, unless Taylor was really a lot more hurt than any of us realized. He didn't look it, though?

 

Specifically our passing game was so concentrated on those sideline passes that we never took big shots downfield. We did get the ball in the hands of our playmakers in space but it wasn't enough for that to be our entire plan of attack.

The forward pass you're thinking of was the botched option where we lost 20 yards. It was reviewed and the announcers were talking about it being a forward pass but the play stood.

 

I didn't think Martinez looked to be hurt either but others have said it doesn't affect running so much as it does cutting so perhaps they didn't call a lot of runs for him to try to minimize the chances.

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